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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:38 AM
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I was struck by Hillary laughing at such a serious question (Maher's Question)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:40 AM
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1. Nervousness?
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:45 AM
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2. the democrats
NOMINATED KERRY!

idiots.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:47 AM
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3. I'll weigh in on this, but preface by saying I am not a HRC
backer--at least at this point....


She's got a very fine line to thread between appearing "friendly, approachable, yet assertive (and non-bitchy), intelligent, but not wonky, critical but not hateful or paranoid." It is especially a difficult situation for her, being the only woman and given her baggage. Many women professionals, myself included, have difficulties with this. Of course she takes it seriously, but she is trying to meet such a wide range of expectations, in terms of her "essence," that she sometimes will come off this way. She's not smirking, like the boy king, just trying to remain "friendly, approachable, yet assertive (and non-bitchy), intelligent, but not wonky, critical but not hateful or paranoid."


Not exclusive to female expectations, of course... One need only look at how people wrongly perceived Gore in 2000.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:53 AM
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4. I think she was laughiing at the way Maher presented the question, not
the content. He IS, after all, a funny guy...
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:54 AM
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5. Gee now she can't even laugh
wonder what the god Obama would do.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:06 AM
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10. Obama was never fooled by G. W. Bush.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:54 AM
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6. That's the nervous laugh of someone that's just been nailed.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:12 PM
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24. Yes. And more, from the fabric of our national fantasy being pierced.
Clinton was never fooled by Bush but guided by political calculation.

Bill called her on that.



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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:56 AM
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7. Why? Because she got the joke?
Bill is funny you know.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:02 AM
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8. Exactly - I thought her response was perfect.
Some people just don't have a sense of humor.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:05 AM
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9. There was a joke there?
Oh I get it, the one about Hillary Clinton giving Bush authority for war in Iraq. Yeah that was hilarious.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:11 AM
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15. HAHAHAHAHA damn just damn
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:10 AM
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12. Bill wasn't smiling when he asked the question
Sure there was some dry humor there but he meant it as a serious question. I would have smiled and then answered the question. In my opinion her laugh was her over compensating and it came across as weird.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:11 AM
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13. He had
a smirk towards the end.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:09 AM
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11. The laugh was forced.
She laughed because she wanted to emphasize the comic aspect of the question. Actually, she wasn't fooled by George W Bush. She tried to finesse a political move based on the notion that Bush was bluffing, or if not, the war would come off cleanly. She blew that one. I don't remember Hillary warning us about quagmires.

--IMM
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:11 AM
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14. So, she sought out information from a wide variety of sources. Did she talk to
Scott Ritter or others who knew there were no WMDs? How did I know it was a con job, but she didn't. Had she read Rebuilding America's Defenses? I agree with the sentiment behind Maher's question. What a lapse of judgment to give George Bush any authority! I've said before I wouldn't have given him the authority to order lunch. It was a politically expedient decision just before the 2002 midterms -- why can't she remember that? Many of us were emailing and calling like crazy trying to persuade our senators and congressman not to authorize this act which essentially gave the President 'war making powers' that the founding fathers left in the hands of the people through their congressmen.

And after she saw that Bush used the authority to push the UN aside and stop the inspections (which had inconveniently found nothing), why didn't she stand up and say -- "This isn't what I voted for." No, she went along with the war - even went over there and pronounced how we needed more troops, etc. Was positively hawkish until just the last few months when it became clear to her that the base was antiwar and that she'd better retrofit history and her thinking. What do we do NOW? - HIllary. We get OUT -- we've made a mess of Iraq, killed over a million of her people and displaced millions more. It is audacious of her to think we can be part of any solution. Get out now -- put international peacekeepers in and leave lots of reparations behind.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:24 AM
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20. Nice reply....wish I had said it....nt
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:12 AM
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16. Bill Maher: The Real Hardball
The laughter didn't bother me at all. But I thought her answer was crap.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:17 AM
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17. So she’s working on getting Republican support.
Why am I not surprised? I’m sure the Republicans are counting on her further support…


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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:21 AM
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18. Senator Clinton has nothing to worry about. She is currently going
through the motions, as is required. She will be the Democratic nominee in '08 - that has already been decided; everything else is just a dog and pony show for the masses and a money/jobs generator for the governing class. The real question is how will she (as any President allowed to hold office would) justify the continued/permanent occupation of Iraq? And what will be her justification for war with Iran?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:24 AM
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19. It's an excellent question for EVERY candidate that voted for the war.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:04 PM
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21. It was a little odd. I think she was laughing because she was so prepared for
the question. And she has answered it so many times before.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:07 PM
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22. Hillary doesn't have a clue.
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 06:09 PM by Carrieyazel
To essentially laugh off her awful vote to authorize this catastrophe shows her myopia. Dems will see this as a dumb move on her part, and soon enough she won't be laughing.
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:11 PM
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23. I'm not Hillary supporter but this doesnt bother me
She is on a comics show and she is forcing her laugh a bit at an irony. She probably should have grimaced but it doesnt bother me.

What would bother me is that if Obama or especially Kerry had laughed like this they would be blasted 24 hours 7 days a week by the media on both sides of the aisle.
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