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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:05 AM
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Bait and Switch: Bush will NOT nominate Ted Olsen
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 11:55 AM by cali
By talking up Olsen he's getting the dems to fulminate over how unacceptable Olsen is, then when he nominates George Terwilliger, or some other awful partisan who's virtually unknown, he'll say that so and so is a sterling non-partisan candidate. It'll be another lie, but it's not a stupid tactic. Fortunately, I don't think Leahy or the other dems on the JC will fall for it. It'll just make for a tactically tougher battle.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:07 AM
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1. Or he might nominate Olsen for the distraction factor/time waster that
it would be.:shrug:
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:07 AM
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2. The Dems ought to send him a short list
And automatically kill the nomination of anyone not on it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:12 AM
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5. I wouldn't assume that they haven't done this
In any case, this is all academic because Leahy has reiterated, as recently as yesterday; no subpoenaed info, no hearing. For any candidate.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:11 AM
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3. My wish list is Lieberman
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:21 AM
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7. No way lieberman would take it
He'd be gone at the end of 2008 and he likes the perks of his Senate office too much. He might actually have to get a job if he takes the AG now.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:32 AM
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9. Why?????
if he's nominated the power of the senate goes back to the repukes!!!

I know in the end moron* will put his name up, but for godsakes don't hope for it.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:37 AM
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13. Why would it go to the Repukes?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:52 AM
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14. He holds the balance in the senate...
although he is an "independent", if he became AG, the governor of CT appoints the temp senator until election time. the governor of ct is a repuke.

if that happens it's a 50/50 split and dickhead chaney is the deciding vote.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:12 AM
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4. Good call. Sounds like their normal strategy. nt
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:16 AM
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6. Isn't that how we got GONZO and Roberts?
Nominate someone so wrong for the job even the repukes couldn't approve, then go for the original choice who is just as evil but not quite as well known.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:33 AM
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10. sure, but now we have dems in charge of the Judiciary
instead of repukes. And yes, it makes a huge difference.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 12:00 PM
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17. It works so well, they'll
do it again.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:31 AM
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8. olsen is the sacrificial lamb.
going to shoot high so then he can get someone who is clearly nuts but not so nuts on the outside. Which in fact is much worse.

I'm still holding out that moron* will put liebermans name in the bucket.

if he does that, everything changes in the senate dramatically.

suddenly the dems won't have majority anymore, not that it has done much good to begin with.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:34 AM
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11. yup, place holder just like Harriet Miers.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:35 AM
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12. self-involved li'l joe, trade in 5+years in the Senate for 1+ year
in an embattled lame duck admin? I don't see joe as being the self-sacrificing type, do you?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:55 AM
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15. Hell yeah, I see it happening.
got to remember, for lieberman it's all about "me". He has stars in his eyes to help control policy. Granted I'm not saying it's based in reality, but then again what in this administration* of fools is?

Plus if he does get in, that gives the repukes the senate. it goes back to 50/50 when the CT governor appoints a repuke temp senator until elections (the governor is a repuke)

then chaney gets the deciding vote.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:58 AM
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16. He has far more power, not to mention job security in the
Senate. No way on earth is he trading in a job with power for one that has essentially no power. What's more, he's aware that Leahy won't give him a pass.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 12:00 PM
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18. I hope you are right.
I put nothing past moron* and his henchmen.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 12:07 PM
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19. No Gone-zo info, no confirmations hearings AT ALL.
The Dems can't pick a worthy successor if they know the real reasons why the predecessor left, now can they?

:shrug:
rocknation
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 12:13 PM
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20. Aha, the old Harriet Miers trick...
they never tire of their games, do they?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 01:50 PM
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21. kick for reality
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