Who is most culpable for the tragedy in Iraq?

[bryant69]

In your opinion. Tried to think of all the possibilities - by culpable I mean who do you blame the most for causing misery in Iraq?

Bryant
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[BlooInBloo]

1. I almost always place the fundamental blame at the feet of the electorate...

... this is not an exception.

[maxsolomon]

3. the coup of 2001 belies this assertion

2004 notwithstanding

[BlooInBloo]

5. (shrug) The Secretaries of State (state-level), etc. were all elected....

... You're just moving the bump in the rug, where said bump is, and remains, the electorate.


EDIT: I blame the electorate for *multiple* failures on *multiple* levels.

[Hosnon]

12. Fundamental blame, yes. However, it is unreasonable to expect the

citizenry of any nation to be extremely, or even very, informed. For whatever reason, that just doesn't happen (especially here).

As a result, I blame those who took advantage of that known.

It's a bit like leading a starving animal to a barn full of shackled sheep.

[BlooInBloo]

26. I don't believe the issued was uninformed-ness. I think the issue is that..

... the public WANTS, or WANTED what it voted for.

The fuckwipe electorate of Connecticut furnishes an excellent micro-example of this. NOBODY is *surprised* at how Lieberman's been acting - the issue isn't that the electorate was misinformed. They knew what he was about and CHOSE it. Politicians are quite literally the incarnations of their electorate.

I don't blame the snake for biting me - that's what snakes do. I blame the fuckwipes who put the snake in my bed.


EDIT: And even if it WAS uninformed-ness, it wouldn't make much of a difference. It would just mean that America was doomed to failure a priori from the get-go. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance, so they say. If it's built-in to the rules of the game that said vigilance isn't a long-term option, then it's also built-in that liberty won't be a long-term option. But the *problem* is the same: the people.

[Milo_Bloom]

2. All share the blame...

To suggest otherwise most likely means that one is shilling for one of the candidates who is trying to escape from their to send people to their deaths.

[libnnc]

4. Add the media to that list and you might have a worthwhile poll

first time for everything, I guess.

[bryant69]

7. Damn - you are right. forgot the media. n/t

[Hosnon]

6. President Bush and His Presidency.

Yes, the American people, generally, are idiots and allowed the invasion to take place. However, Bush and his administration took advantage of that situation, perhaps one that could be considered the "natural" state of the citizenry.

I blame them the most.

On a side note, your last option is awkward. The poll asks for the entity that is most responsible. There can only be one such entity.

[dysfunctional press]

8. i blame the media almost ENTIRELY.

it's THEIR JOB to ask the HONEST and TOUGH questions.

[bryant69]

9. I apologize to those who want to vote that this poll is bullshit

But had to put in the media.

Bryant

[dysfunctional press]

27. well now that the media is a choice-

it's not so much bullshit anymore.

[hfojvt]

10. CBS news et. al.

for starting each broadcast with 'countdown to war' before war was declared.

[HereSince1628]

11. Me, It's my fault. I didn't give enough to stop it.

[begin_within]

13. Oil companies

[bryant69]

14. American Corporations, I should think, covers them? n /t

[begin_within]

22. Yes you're right. They slipped right past my view, as is their goal.

[jojo54]

15. I voted all above & media, but I blame * the most.

9/11 was a scary, terrible time for the U.S. and whether or not this Iraq debacle was planned beforehand, B*sh USED & ABUSED the American people, their fears and their vulnerabilities. This IMHO, is subject to prison time for duping Americans into believing B*sh knew what the hell he was talking about.

Ah, for want of a time machine.

[AlCzervik]

16. is this a scientific poll? Are you starting a polling company?

what do you do with all this poll information, do you collect it?

[bryant69]

19. I send it off to my diabolical masters in the RNC, of course. n/t

[AlCzervik]

21. if i had a polling company i'd call it "Polland".

[LSK]

17. this poll is BS, there is no Clinton option

Obviously he broke into the White House and made Bush do it.

:crazy:

[Larry Ogg]

18. Hay WTF, I clicked on “this poll is bullshit.”

And when the screen refreshed “this poll is bullshit” turned into “the American media”

But that’s ok; the politicians could have never pulled off the last 100 years with out the bankers owning the media.

[bryant69]

20. I do apologize - i understand that there is a large crowd of people at DU

who love telling me my polls are bullshit. But unfortunately this subject had so many possible answers I felt compelled to change that to the American Media. Also when I changed it nobody had voted for the Bullshit option yet.

Bryant

[Larry Ogg]

23. That’s ok bryant no need to apologize

The only reason I chose “this poll is bullshit” is because you didn’t have a choice for “the American media”.

[Hobarticus]

24. Why aren't Congressional Republicans in their own category?

While Congressional Dems ARE?

And the military and the troops are two separate categories? How are individual troops responsible for this war, at all?

[bryant69]

25. As for the first one - i only have 10 slots, and I wanted one to be all of the above

More people seem to blame Democrats based on ability - you don't expect Republicans to have enough sense to avoid the war, but you expect more from Democrats.

As for the latter - there are plenty of people who do hold the troops responsible for choosing to fight in this war.

Bryant

[Hobarticus]

29. Thanks for clarifying. Now I know why people call these polls bullshit. eom

[mmonk]

28. the PNAC, the whole neoconservative movement and it's "think tanks",

the MIC, the media that sold it, and all that bought into it.

[Uncle Joe]

30. I believe the symbiosis of American Media and corporation

make them one and the same, I checked American Media but feel that corporate media is the most accurate description.

The reason I checked media as most culpable is because I've come to the conclusion that they are more responsible than any other entity for the Bush maladministration being in power to begin with.

[Greyhound]

31. Arbusto was/is just a tool. You haven't listed the real culprits, only their fronts

and employees.

It may turn out to be a stroke of luck that he is such an idiot, he did everything so badly and so far ahead of schedule, that the overall strategy is much more apparent and harder to discount as a "conspiracy theory".