You know this fight can really lead to the gates of hell -

[Joe for Clark]

You know that don't you??

It is the difference between us and all civilization that came before - cause we don't care.

We were born in war - and we may die that way.

But we will die free, too.

We may lose - maybe - but if we do - they have to take out the generations that came before us to do that. And if it ever came to that - I chose to die with them before I will ever countenance this abomination.

It is a fight for our soul - it just is.

Joe

[shadowknows69]

1. I definitely feel you on this one Joe

And I don't subscribe to good and evil as concepts as much as I do positive and negative energies, chaos and order, but some of these warmongering maniacs have made me believe in evil again. Not as some nebulous theological concept but in the sense of it being the vilest, most base animal natures getting the best of most of our species when we should have evolved past this shit by now. Born in war, indeed. I think it will continue because us dumb monkeys just don't know any other way anymore.

[Bluebear]

2. For this I quit smoking.

x(

[Mika]

3. You've been shocked and awed.

The Shock Doctrine


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[Joe for Clark]

5. I have been "shocked and awed" so many times -I tust I am now

capable of picking the fly shit out of the pepper.

[shadowknows69]

4. What Bush has planned for Iran

will make that look like a backyard bottle rocket show on the 4th of July.