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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:10 PM
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Three misleading graphs needed
for my kid's high school statistics class.

Does anyone have some officially released offenses?

Thanks.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:15 PM
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1. I have a misleading CNN / Gallup Poll graph about Terry Schiavo...
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 08:15 PM by IndyOp
I use it in my Introductory Statistics class when I talk about lying with graphs.

Posted first:



Correct after complaints to:




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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:22 PM
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2. The teacher
specifically told the kids that graph was prohibited. Apparently the teacher believes the kids were passing it around, I think they all came up with it because it's the first Google hit.

Thanks.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:26 PM
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5. So long as the teacher showed it to them, then I think it is okay to ask them to
dig more deeply. It is an excellent example of what happens when you let someone with no knowledge of basic principles use a powerful statistics/graphing package. You can put all kinds of numbers into Excel or Systat and click buttons to get pretty visuals and p-values, but it doesn't mean that any of visuals or p-values are legit.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:30 PM
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8. I use that for my Communication Class
when we talk about crappy visual aids and lying with statistics. It does work really well.

Do you use the book How to Lie with Statistics? I love the book and am thinking about adding it next year (I teach high school, but the Comm class I teach is taught for college credit). Just wondering if someone uses it with success.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:37 PM
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9. I haven't used "How to Lie with Statistics" - I think about assigning it from
time to time and then, somehow, never do. I am teaching stat again in January - maybe now would be a good time for me to review it and think how I might work it in.

:hi:
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:46 PM
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10. It's just so damned timeless.
I am just wondering how much "regular non-stats geeks" would get out of it. I think a lot.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:23 PM
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3. Another example here with good talking points...
December 7, 2005
Orwell, Tufte, and the U.S. Treasury Department

http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2005/12/orwell_tufte_an.html


And the mother lode is at Junkcharts -- years and years worth of misleading graphs - enough for a Master's Thesis: http://junkcharts.typepad.com/



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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:27 PM
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6. Thanks bunches! nt
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:23 PM
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4. Here's one
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 08:23 PM by lynyrd_skynyrd
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:27 PM
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7. At Junkcharts, click on the links to the right of the page under
the heading "Categories" - happy hunting!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 08:47 PM
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11. Laffer curve
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