It's a given that you cant pick your family, my brother asked me to watch a movie

[Union Label]

You guessed it, he's a rethug. We were at a family function last week and and him knowing my political leanings gave me Michael Moore Hates America, after making me promise to actually watch it and saying I can do what I want with it after that.
Needless to say I watched it and yes it's nothing but reich-wing crap packaged in a retail dvd, so what I was thinking of doing is sending it back to him, that is after it went through my cd shredder. :evilgrin:

[Sequoia]

1. My sister would send those Veggie Tales tapes to my kid.

The first one wasn't so bad about Stuff Mart and Madame Blueberry but that one about Easter and her old husband was just too much as where all the other dopey ones...some French Peas and the Battle of Jerico. Then she send us old used Lion, With, Wardrobe series junk.

[DutchLiberal]

2. Is it true Michael Moore holds shares in Halliburton?

I read that last week, and I want to know if it's true. If it is, he's a hypocrite and I want to burn my copy of 'Fahrenheit 9/11'.

[redqueen]

3. You've GOT to be kidding!

:rofl:

[DutchLiberal]

8. Either give me the information that disproves him holding shares, or don't laugh at me.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

26. No, I'll laugh at you anyway.

[DutchLiberal]

29. Oh, you're a tough guy now.

:eyes:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

30. At least I know what the word "hypocrite" means.

[DutchLiberal]

39. I fail to see the connection with me. Or are you paranoïd too, and you think I'm a troll?

:crazy:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

32. Nah. He Just Plays One Online.

Don't sweat it. Just laugh back.

[Bozita]

4. That has a real "swiftboat" aroma to it...

... similar to bullshit but more noxious.

[DutchLiberal]

9. Well, it came from a left-wing source, somebody who grew up with Moore. He backed Kerry in 2004.

[Bozita]

11. and that source is?

[DutchLiberal]

13. Kevin Leffler. He made a documentary called 'Shooting Michael Moore', which I have never seen myself

But I read he grew up with Moore and he said Moore holds shares in Haliburton.

But I don't like you treat me so suspicious like I'm some kind of troll. That's vert paranoid of you.

[stanwyck]

36. Post the link

and you won't be attacked. If you read it, it exists. Somewhere, right?

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[proud2BlibKansan]

7. No it's not true and has been repeatedly debunked

Nice try though.

[DutchLiberal]

10. What 'try'? I'm a Moore-fan. But not if this is true.

[sinkingfeeling]

12. Michael Morre doesn't own stock in Halliburton, but his foundation did in 1999.

This piece of 'information' came directly from Peter Schweizer's new book, "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy."

[DutchLiberal]

14. Don't know that book. Never heard of it.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. So look it up

Then you'll know for sure.

[DutchLiberal]

19. I'm asking you. But if you got no source, just TELL me. Don't be embarrased!

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. Like I said it was repeatedly debunked

So why ask the question here and keep bringing it up unless you are trying to lay a bad rap on Michael Moore?

This is an OLD story and frankly, it surprises me that any Michael Moore fan has not heard the truth yet. A couple DUers posted names and enough info right here in this thread for you to do a simple search and find the answer you want.

[DutchLiberal]

22. It never occurred to you that the information is NEW to me?

Geesh, you're one paranoïd dude. Nice way to scare away new DU members by being so hostile.

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. New DU members come here all the time and try to stir shit up

Convince me your intentions are different.

And no it didn't occur to me that this is new information to you, not if you really are a fan.

[DutchLiberal]

27. 'Convince' you? Oh please. Look up my posting history. I've been here for a few months already.

I'm a Kucinich-supporting, Moore-watching, Olberman-addicted Dutch liberal who thought it would be fun to discuss politics with American liberals.

Boy, was I wrong when I met you... :eyes:

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. NO. It's a lie...as usual. All repukes lie about everything. If their mouth is open, THEY'RE LYING!

The plain simple facts are these:

1. That part of the tax return Schweizer refers to is for Moore’s private foundation. It is not a part of Michael Moore’s personal 1040 tax return.

2. That foundation is a separate entity from Michael Moore. It’s a tax exempt charity governed by the IRS Code, hence all tax filings are a matter of public record.

3. Any stock bought with funds in that foundation’s name are registered in that foundation’s name - not in Moore’s name. When that stock is sold, any profit or loss belongs solely to that foundation which means any profit must eventually be distributed for charitable causes to benefit worthy people or organizations as defined by the IRS Code. If that foundation is ever dissolved, all assets must be distributed to charity. What this means is that Moore as President may control the activities of the charity, but he does not “own” it. (A charity owns itself.)<snip>

http://tinyurl.com/2dlaa6

[DutchLiberal]

20. It was one Kevin Leffler who said this, who backed Kerry in 2004, not a Republican.

And what difference does it make if the money doesn't go to Moore the person, but Moore's foundation? And what difference does it make if that money is used for charitable activities? It's still dirty money, earned from Cheney's former evil company which is stealing the Iraqi oil!

[jacksonian]

23. There's such a thng as "clean" money?

So freaking what. Take Haliburton's $$$ and do something with it.

Better than someone else buying the stock and turning profits into more society-killing crap, right?

[DutchLiberal]

28. To me, it's still not ethical and a bit hypocritical.

[stanwyck]

37. Post the link

it's just that easy.

[DutchLiberal]

40. Can you read Dutch? It was in a Dutch newspaper last week. Why so suspicious?

I'm almost feeling unwelcome here.

[OzarkDem]

44. An old rightwing rumor

that's been floating around for two or three years with nothing to substantiate it.

You should feel unwelcome, peddling that sort of right wing junk here.

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[alfredo]

34. If he had something like a Vanguard mutual fund, Halliburton could

have been one of the stocks. Vanguard is continually looking for stocks that will return good value. The individual member doesn't pick the stocks in the portfolio. It may not have been part of the fund when he signed onto whatever fund he bought into.

When I looked over my TSP C fund I found a lot of companies I would have not wanted to invest in.

[stanwyck]

35. Please post a link

to the source where you read this about Moore.
(otherwise, you're just indulging in Faux News "some people say....")

[DutchLiberal]

41. Maybe you can Google 'Kevin Leffler'? Or 'Shooting Michael Moore'? It's a documentary.

I've never seen it. The article was in a Dutch free newspaper last week, online available only for registred users:

http://www.metronieuws.nl/index.php?actie=krantvanvandaag (Issue of September 13 or 14)

[KansDem]

45. Internet Movie Database doesn't mention "Shooting Michael Moore"

And it's pretty thorough...

IMDB

[tammywammy]

50. There's a website for it

http://www.shootingmichaelmoore.com/

[mod mom]

38. I think I read he bought one share so he could attend a share holders meeting

and not get kicked out.

[DutchLiberal]

42. That would be very smart! Funny, too, typical Michael Moore!

:rofl:

[OzarkDem]

46. Bingo!

That's how he's able to get into stockholder meetings and challenge the company honchos.

Smart idea, good for him.

Strange that conservatives dislike Moore. Since so many wingers are really middle to lower class people, Moore actually goes to bat for them to protect their jobs and health care.

I feel sorry for right wingers. The GOP screws them over daily, yet they still hang on.

[BrotherBuzz]

48. That was indeed the case back when he filmed Roger and me

He purchased one share of GM so he could attend the share holders meeting.

[blogslut]

5. Tell him the movie was funded by a pornographer

See how he takes that.

Proof: http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=17381
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Brian_R._Cartmell

[Ganja Ninja]

6. If only you could relabel a copy of sicko ...

so it looks like his DVD and send it back. That way the next person he gives it to ...

[bunkerbuster1]

15. You shouldn't have let him give you the DVD.

You should've offered to buy a new copy, given that you'd have to pay no more than 99 cents or so for it...

(some zingers are worth the modest price.)

[JHB]

16. The shredder would be satisfying, but...

...debunking it is better (and classier). There has to be some sites around that pick it apart bit by bit. Look them up and brush up on its specific problems.

[Union Label]

25. I know shredding it seams a bit like what a rethug would do

So I'll see what I can come up with to dispute my bro's trash movie.

[musette_sf]

31. place the DVD in the microwave

cook till done

sweep DVD remains into DVD package

return to brother

[mahatmakanejeeves]

33. Give it to a thrift store.

When you do that, whoever buys it will not pay royalties to the maker of the DVD. The makers will receive nothing from this purchase.

[0rganism]

51. next time make it conditional on his watching a movie of your choice

No sense letting your brother set the frame for all future discussions.

Send him back the case with a dvd of "Bowling For Columbine" inside. That should torque his nards real good.