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Fri Sep-14-07 01:58 PM
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Newsworthy? Condi Co-owns home with woman. |
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Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 01:58 PM by StClone
Secretary of State, who keeps private life shrouded, co-owns home with female filmmaker John ByrneSecretary of State Condoleezza Rice co-owned a home and shared a line of credit with another woman, according to Washington Post diplomatic correspondent Glenn Kessler, who reveals the information in his new book, The Confidante: Condoleezza Rice and the Creation of the Bush Legacy.
Kessler discussed the revelations with talk-show host and gay author Michaelangelo Signorile Friday on his Sirius Radio show.
According to the book, Rice owns a home together with Randy Bean, a documentary filmmaker who once worked with Bill Moyers. Kessler made the discovery by looking through real estate records...Rawstory: http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Secretary_of_State_who_keeps_private_0914.html
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:04 PM
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1. she never seemed to speak against Gay rights. she was pretty progressive |
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on those matters until she joined *
so I'd say "No, not newsworthy"
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:10 PM
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2. hmmm really? even though her views changed once she signed on with satan? |
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:30 PM
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She signed on with the most homophobic administration. By her silence she condons their behavior.
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:35 PM
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10. I have to agree with that... |
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hitching her star to Bushy and crew, she is a hypocrite on gay rights by proxy and she doesn't earn a pass. I say out with it.
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:55 PM
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Fri Sep-14-07 03:11 PM
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23. Though due to the double standard that applies to men and women, this won't resonate with people |
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Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 03:11 PM by closeupready
as much as it would if it were the case that Condi was a man.
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Fri Sep-14-07 03:22 PM
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25. Actually, it's not far off |
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Men suffer from more homophobia in general, but Condi is in a unique position, and her silence in this regard is unlikely to go over well.
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:10 PM
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3. interesting. only thing i knew about her is she likes sports and can |
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play the piano had an oil tanker named after her and i can't stand her
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:13 PM
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6. I'm adding to your list--- |
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....hasn't done a gawddamn thing in her *job* as SOS. nothing, nada, zilch, zip, nil .....yadda yadda!
otherwise, who cares who will put up with the woman. blivet likes her as his 'date'--duo 'beards' if ya ask me!
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:32 PM
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9. no no that's not true...she LIES with aplomb! |
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Who could have expected they'd use airplanes as weapons?
Who INDEED, you lying dirtbag! OOooooh now I'm making myself angry, thinking about it. :P
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:35 PM
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11. You forgot that she likes really expensive shoes...n/t |
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:10 PM
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There is nothing wrong with doing what she is accused of doing. It is not newsworthy.
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:36 PM
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12. Absolutely not, so confront her with it.. |
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and let her speak those words herself.
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:38 PM
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14. If there's nothing wrong with it there's no need for a public servant to keep |
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Fri Sep-14-07 03:28 PM
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:15 PM
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7. It's newsworthy because she's part of a homophobic administration. |
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It's newsworthy on both counts: what it says about her, and about him.
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:37 PM
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13. There is a transgender professor at Stanford |
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Joan Roughgarden, who i was lucky enough to hear speak last year. She said that Condi was very supportive of her during her reassignment surgery and afterwards... seemed totally incongruous to me, knowing her only as *'s crony. But apparently she used to have a heart somewhere in there...
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:51 PM
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16. Who cares if she's gay? |
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Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 02:52 PM by rateyes
Self-righteous Republican turds--that's who. (How's that for redundancy?)
If she is gay, then she is complicit in condoning the violence and hatred against gays that this administration has fomented. Complicit in her silence.
If she is not gay, then she is complicit in condoning the violence and hatred against gays that this administration has fomented. Complicit in her silence.
Her complicity is what matters. Not her sexual orientation.
Either way, I can't stand that woman.
On edit: My guess is that Admiral Fallon would call her an "ass-kissing little chickenshit."
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:52 PM
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17. It is newsworthy in that she is a major part of this aggressively |
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homophobic party and administration. However, I am uncomfortable with the witch hunt aspect of it. If she is gay, which would not be a big surprise, she neeeds to be ashamed for backing this bashing bunch, almost as much as she needs to be ashamed for all the death and destruction she helped bring to Iraq. She's got a lot to answer for, but if this story takes off, all she will be asked about is "is she or isn't she"
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:57 PM
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19. Newsworthy? Not in my opinion. I'm not interested in her private life. |
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If she owns a house with another woman, it does not necessarily mean that there is any kind of intimate relationship between them. Even if they are partners, it's none of my business. At various times I have shared a house with a straight female, a straight man and a gay man without having a sexual relationship with any of them. It sure gave the neighbors a lot to talk about, however.
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Fri Sep-14-07 03:06 PM
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21. It takes a friendship on a whole other level to co-own a house together and |
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have joint credit lines. This goes waaaayy beyond just sharing a house with a roommate.
That kind of financial investment doesn't square with just a platonic friendship. Rice has been an instrumental part of one of the most despicable admins on the planet, including their despicable homophobia. Her partnership with this woman is definitely newsworthy in light of her public persona.
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Fri Sep-14-07 03:16 PM
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24. Even co-owning a house and a joint credit line does not in any |
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way prove that they are sexual partners. Also, just because she has not publicly condemned the homophobic aspects of the current administration does not mean that she condones them. Her position does not deal with domestic matters, and I don't see why she would be expected to make a public comment regarding homosexuality and her opinion of it.
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Fri Sep-14-07 03:25 PM
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26. Sorry, I guess I just disagree. That level of financial trust bespeaks a deeper relationship. |
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And I also believe that her silence implies support. Especially as this Admin has worked tirelessly to strip the GLBT community of their rights across the country, state by state, while also simultaneously ramping up the PR hate campaign to an impassioned state.
She has had every opportunity to speak out and has not. I don't believe it matters one bit whether her focus has been on international or domestic issues, standing silently by while this admin has instigated it's hate campaign makes her a first class hypocrite. If she is NOT gay, it also makes her a bigot.
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Fri Sep-14-07 03:52 PM
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31. They had a joint line of credit with somebody else. |
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In other words, one line of credit, three signers. Two of them 'bought out' the third's interest in it (I have little clue what that means, but that's what was reported).
The third member of the trio was a man. Adds spice, no? Condi, a film-maker, and a man, seeking that 'deeper friendship'.
The man was gay.
That level of trust bespeaks a deeper friendship ... but between two women and a man, if the man's gay, one's left wondering exactly how sexual the relationship was. You're left with a deep platonic friendship, hardly what a homophobe is likely to have. (Perhaps the man's not gay, and he should be confronted with it?)
Silly. I had a line of credit with a roommate once. We were roomies for years, until he moved out of town. I'm also a man, but neither he nor I is gay. This was in the early '80s, and even though I was conservative, I considered the suggestions that this implied my roomie I and were gay lovers was something out of the 1950s or before.
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Fri Sep-14-07 02:59 PM
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20. Well, she doesn't look like an NFL quarterback. |
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Fri Sep-14-07 03:08 PM
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22. Shrub will be sooooo jealous. |
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Fri Sep-14-07 03:27 PM
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27. in a culture where Britney Spears' meltdown is a fixture on our best newcast (KO) -- |
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we'd be lying to say her sexual orientation isn't "newsworthy."
if true, and if this becomes "news" i HOPE what happens is that we begin to grow up a little bit with regard to our expectations of public officials' personal lives. people should be able to be "out" and poltically relevant.
likewise -- i HOPE that if this is true, and if it becomes a "news story" that she'd deal with it honestly and without pandering to the religious right. i'm dreaming -- but wouldn't it be great for a booshie to stand up to their party's hypocrisy?
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Fri Sep-14-07 03:38 PM
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30. except it's pretty late in the game for her to be a gay or civil rights |
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champion. I can't imagine too many people from any side getting behind her .
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Fri Sep-14-07 03:35 PM
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I'm missing the relevance of this to anything.
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