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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:35 PM
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**Stroke Identification**
My friend sent this to me and encouraged me to post it and spread the
word. I agreed. If everyone can remember something this simple, we could save
some folks.

During a BBQ, a friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured
everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) and just
tripped over a brick because of her new shoes. They got her cleaned up
and got her a new plate of food - while she appeared a bit shaken up, Ingrid
went about enjoying herself the rest of the afternoon. Ingrid's husband
called later saying that his wife had been taken to the hospital and
passed away. She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ. Had they known how to
identify the signs of a stroke, perhaps Ingrid would be with us today. Some stroke
victims don't die, they end up in a helpless, hopeless condition instead.

It only takes a minute to read this...

A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within three
hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke . . . totally. He said the
trick was having a stroke recognized, diagnosed and then getting the
patient medically cared for within three hours, which is tough.

**RECOGNIZING A STROKE:

Thank God for the sense to remember the "3" steps.


Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately,
the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer
severe brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a
stroke.

Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple
questions:

**S *Ask the individual to SMILE**.
**T *Ask the person to TALK**, to SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE. (Coherently)**
**R *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS**.

**NOTE: Another 'sign' of a stroke is this: Ask the person to 'stick' out
their tongue. If the tongue is 'crooked', if it goes to one side or the
other, that is also an indication of a stroke**.

If he or she has trouble with any one of these tasks, call 911
immediately and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher.

A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this e-mail sends it to ten
people, you can bet at least one life will be saved.*







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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:45 PM
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1. Thanks CP, your posts are always helpful! n/t
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:46 PM
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2. Thank you, my dear Raven!
This sure does seem to be my week for PSA's!

:hug:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:48 PM
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4. And bless you for it!
:yourock:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:31 PM
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26. my sweet pa had one and he was incoherent in his responses and
resisted us helping him to the hospital. that is another sign, along with the rest. KNOW THESE! MEMORIZE THEM! it can help you.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:47 PM
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3. Thank you, for the valuable info....
I will be passing it along.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:49 PM
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6. My dear Missy M...
Ah, you're welcome!

I wanted to disseminate it to the largest number of people possible...

DU works!
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:48 PM
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5. Kick! n/t
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:50 PM
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8. I appreciate your help so much!
Thanks for the kick...

:hug:
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:49 PM
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7. Good advice, Peggy - thanks for posting
My father died of a cerebral hemorrhage (not a stroke, but related and with similar signs and symptoms) - he probably suffered it in his sleep, and we didn't know it until he woke up and had difficulty speaking and facial palsy. He went into a coma and died the next morning. I don't know if he could have been saved had it happened while he was awake and we had noticed something was wrong. Just last week a friend about Mr. DTBK's age (almost 50) had a mini-stroke. Fortunately his family noticed right away that he was having trouble speaking and got him immediately to the hospital, and he should recover in a couple of weeks.

Thanks again.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:52 PM
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9. My dear DeposeTheBoyKing...
I'm so sorry to hear about your dad...

But some things just cannot be helped, can they? :hug:

But then there's the good news about your husband's friend!

I always live to share whatever good things come my way...:pals:
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:54 PM
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11. Instead of whining incessantly like I do!
:loveya:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:57 PM
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13. Sweetie, you're not whining!
:loveya:

:hug:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:54 PM
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10. Good advice.
Especially for us boomers.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:58 PM
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14. My dear aquart...
Thanks!

:hug:
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:55 PM
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12. Be off! Thanks for the valuable info! nt
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 02:55 PM by snappyturtle
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:59 PM
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15. No, thank YOU, my dear snappyturtle!
Always my pleasure to share the good stuff I stumble across...

:hi:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:03 PM
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16. Thank you.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:04 PM
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17. You're welcome, my dear emilyg...
:hug:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:08 PM
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18. about 2 years ago, I had a mild transischemic attack I couldn't hold my fork
even though I was able to pick it up once, twice, three times. Thanks to everyone around I'm here raising my beautiful son and posting on DU.

This is very important info, DU (as was CaliPeggy's info about heart attacks as well).

I'm so very grateful to be fully alive and fully functioning.

(Now I need to take a sob break...)

Bless you, California Peggy. :hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:11 PM
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19. My dear blondeatlast...
I'm thrilled that you recovered completely from your mild TIA...

We're all grateful for that! And your son is too!

Here, sweetie, have a kleenex...:hug:

Thank you for your very kind words...
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:19 PM
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92. I was actually debating about how likely it would be for someone I know
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 07:20 PM by truedelphi
To have a stroke - and then your story made it all really hit home.

Thanks!
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:15 PM
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20. My Dear CaliforniaPeggy
Strokes are probably the hardest to diagnose, because there could be so many symptoms unlike
regular afflictions.

You are the best!! :bounce: :bounce: :hi:

"The eternal, never-ceasing search for knowledge often leads to dark and dangerous places. Sometimes it demands risks not only of those who are searching, but of others who love them. These, in their own special way, know that knowledge is never wasted, nor is love."

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:20 PM
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22. My dear Parche!
Nah...I'm just me...

Just passing along some info I got from another good girlfriend...

Thank you!

I love your beautiful quote...:hug:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:15 PM
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21. K&R - thanks again for more important information! nt
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:21 PM
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24. You're welcome, my dear gateley!
:hug:
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:20 PM
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23. My mother had a heart attack last November.
We were able to stop it in progress and reverse any damage, but only because we got her medical attention ASAP. She tried to ignore it, but I was there and dragged her to the doctor on an emergency. The doc gave her nitrous, which stopped it, and got her into the hospital on priority.

She had to have a stent placed, but we're still fortunate enough to have her today.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:22 PM
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25. I'm so glad to hear that, my dear Akoto...
Timely intervention is so often life-saving...

:hug:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:39 PM
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27. Thanks!!


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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:50 PM
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29. You're welcome, my dear Solly Mack!
:hug:
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:39 PM
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28. I'll try to remember STR
That's the first three letters of the word STRoke. Shouldn't be too hard to remember.

Good advice and an excellent post. k&r
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:51 PM
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30. My dear Lionel Mandrake...
Remembering those three letters is key!

I thank you for the K&R...

:hug:
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:06 PM
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31. This is vital info, many thanks. Am sending it to all on my list. eom
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:08 PM
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32. You're welcome, my dear monmouth!
:hi:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:16 PM
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33. I've never heard of "STR"...thanks CP
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:55 PM
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35. My dear Lochloosa...
Neither had I....till my girlfriend sent this email to me!

You're welcome...

:hi:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:27 PM
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37. ...
:hug:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:22 PM
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34. k&r
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:56 PM
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36. Thank you, my dear spanone...
:hi:
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:52 PM
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38. kick
ask for a smile, talk, and raise both arms. Ask them to stick out their tongue. Got it and thanks for the info.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:02 PM
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41. Thanks for the kick, my dear cally!
My pleasure to always help my friends...

:hug:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:57 PM
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39. A kick for knowledge
:kick:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:03 PM
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43. Thank you, my dear proud patriot!
:hug:
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:59 PM
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40. "Time is brain." Thanks for sharing.
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 10:00 PM by mcscajun
I've heard "Time is brain." very often when on hold for a local hospital, but hadn't heard of S-T-R before. "Every single minute counts. With each passing minute, more and more brain cells die."
http://www.iafflocal1311.org/Fitness/Stroke.htm
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:05 PM
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44. You're welcome, my dear mcscajun!
I hadn't heard STR before either...

I'm so glad my gf sent this to me...



:hug:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:02 PM
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42. Another great post CP
Also very very very very very important--time is of the essence...make sure that whatever hospital they are being taken to, that there is a "Stroke Team" on call 24/7.
Our hospital does not have one. I am not sure than anyone in our community realizes that. When I asked about it, I was met with blank stares. Someone comes in with a stroke, there is nothing we do except watch it evolve.
I have told my family where the nearest hospital is that has a stroke team and although the ambulance won't take you there because it isn't the nearest facility, I am well within the time frame to be driven by car.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:07 PM
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45. That's an excellent point, my dear Horse with no Name!
Stroke Team!

It makes sense...

I hadn't heard of that either...

Thank you for sharing that ...

:hug:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:22 PM
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48. You are very welcome Dear Peggy...so as not to mislead
These people are NOT candidates for the therapy
1. History of intracranial hemorrhage
2. Uncontrolled hypertension
3. Known ateriovenous malformation, neoplasm, or aneurysm
4. Witnessed seizure at stroke onset
5. Active internal bleeding or acute trauma (fracture)
6. Acute bleeding
7. Heparin received within 48 hours
8. Current use of Warfarin
9. Within 3 months of intracranial or intraspinal surgery, serious head trauma or previous stroke
10. Arterial puncture at non-compressible site within past 7 days

With careful consideration, a patient MAY receive the therapy
1. Minor or rapidly improving stroke symptoms
2. Within 14 days of major surgery or serious trauma
3. Recent acute heart attack (within 3 months)
4. Post myocardial infection pericarditis
5. Abnormal blood glucose levels

Also, understand that ONLY a trained medical professional can make the final determination if a patient is a candidate. Always err on the side of caution and go to a facility that can treat symptoms promptly and adequately...regardless of clot buster therapy.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:56 AM
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49. Yes indeed....those are important exceptions!
Thank you for including those!

:hi:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:08 PM
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46. Thank you CaliforniaPeggy!!!
:kick:

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:19 PM
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47. My dear Swamp Rat!
Omigod.........look at all those kicks!

Thank you...

:hug:
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:06 AM
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50. I still remember my grandma's stroke.
She tried to get up and fix a huge Sunday dinner for us, but something wasn't right. She kept sweating and losing control of her left side, no matter what she did. My mom called the ambulance after she noticed a facial droop; it all happened so fast. I remember it like it was yesterday. They didn't get to her in time, evidently; she ended up living eight more years in a nursing home with precious little control over her life. I will never forget the day of her stroke, or the aftermath.

Thank you so much for these signs, CP. They can make such a difference if they are recognized quickly.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:09 AM
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51. My dear susanna....
I'm so sorry about your grandma...

You're right...these things can happen so quickly...

I'm always happy to pass along any helpful info that comes my way...:hug:
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:18 AM
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52. Thanks, CaliforniaPeggy...
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 01:19 AM by susanna
she was a great lady. It was in fact typical of her to serve a HUGE Sunday dinner every week; she felt it a cardinal sin if she didn't deliver. I often wonder if she'd been more laid back, if she had told my mom something was wrong...you know the drill. I think I posted because I wanted to make it real - what it all can mean, you know?

I can't undo the past, and I've grown to understand that. I was a very young kid when all that happened, but I still remember. Now, I am extremely vigilant when I see potential signs; I can't help it. So we do learn, and we can change the outcome for others. Your post will help, and that's all one can do. So my hat is off to you for bringing it to light.

on edit: tenses all over the place
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:23 AM
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53. This needs some more DU R&K love!
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 01:24 AM by Nutmegger
:kick::loveya::thumbsup::kick::loveya::thumbsup::kick::loveya::thumbsup::kick::loveya::thumbsup:

Thank you for this necessary information.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:32 AM
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54. Thank you, my dear Nutmegger!
It means a lot to see you kick my thread...

And I thank you...:hug:
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2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:47 AM
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55. k&r (nt)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:20 AM
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58. Thank you! (nt)
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:32 AM
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56. Hey CP, This is such critical and useful info. Thank you!
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 08:33 AM by bear425
My partner had a brain aneurysm almost 6 years ago and it's so critical to get medical attention immediately. Thanks again.

edit: k/r
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:22 AM
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59. You're welcome, my dear bear425!
Your partner was lucky to get medical attention quickly...

Brain aneurysms are hard to fix...:hug:
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:57 AM
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57. Thanks for this info!
I've already sent it to my sisters.

Very important info!

:thumbsup:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:23 AM
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60. You're welcome, my dear Blue_Roses!
I am always happy to be able to spread needed info!

:hug:
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:30 AM
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61. My dear CP!
Thank you for this information!

My dad had a stroke, in 1981, back when all they could do was to wait until it was finished, then try to pick up the pieces. I recall my mom saying he had felt funny that afternoon, but decided to go curling anyway. You know what curling is, right?

Anyway, that's where it happened. It was a bad one, affecting the right side, but he was really determined and lived on for nine more years. He continued to live at home, carrying on with his stamp and coin hobby, and enjoyed a good social life. He had to walk with a cane, and learn to write left-handed, and the speech never came back much. He was a bridge lover all his life, and the funny thing is that he never lost one iota of his skill at that game.

Obviously, I am at risk for this, so I'm going to make a card of this and carry it around with me. You never know.


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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:02 PM
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64. Ah, you're welcome, my dear ironflange!
Thank you for your illuminating story, and for the great pic!

Yup, I'm a little bit familiar with curling....

Glad I could help...:hug:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:43 AM
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62. Also walking problems.
My mother bumped her head getting into the car on the way to the hairdresser, then when we arrived there, she couldn't walk. Later that day it was diagnosed as a small hemmorhagic stroke. That was 3 years ago and she still does not walk normally and likely never will again - must have a walker and even then it's a struggle. Sudden loss of motor skills on one side of the body is another sign of stroke.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:05 PM
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65. My dear bob_weaver!
Ah, you're so right here!

This sentence of yours sums it up beautifully:

Sudden loss of motor skills on one side of the body is another sign of stroke.

Thank you for contributing...

I'm sorry about your mom...:hug:

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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:57 AM
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63. thank you Peggy!
I am forwarding this information to my friends and family; its important- :hug:

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:06 PM
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67. You're welcome, my dear lavenderdiva!
I'm happy to be of service to my friends here...:hug:
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:05 PM
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66. My mom had a series of 3 strokes in 1991
We got her to the hospital right away -- these were big serious strokes one right on top of the other.

16 years later she is going strong.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:08 PM
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68. My dear JMDEM...
What a wonderful outcome for your mom!

Thank you for sharing your miraculous story...

Quick action is key...

:hug:
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:53 PM
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77. We were very lucky
My mom was usually alone. The night she had the strokes, both my sister and I were there. My sister recognized the signs of a stroke immediately, and called for an ambulance.

The one thing that was a problem was that they didn't know if she was having a clot or a cereberal hemmorage. So they didn't know at first which type of medicine to give her. That is why she had two more strokes in rapid succession that night. But I guess they got it figured out.

How can one tell the difference between the two? (Clot versus hemmorage?)
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:14 PM
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69. my father died from a stroke
Actually he'd had several before he actually passed away. He had problems with his eyesight for many years before this and was blind in one eye.

He called me one day and said that for a brief minute or so, he could not see at all as his other eye had gone out on him. But, he said he was "ok" now.

What that was was a stroke he'd suffered!

I didn't know it.

He did not go to the doctor either even though he had promised to do so "soon". He didn't live long enough for "soon" to happen.

If anything like this happens, it too is a sign of a stroke (sudden loss of vision).

:cry:

:kick:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:50 PM
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71. I am so sorry, my dear CountAllVotes...
Thank you for sharing your story with all of us...

If only one person benefits from it, then maybe that will help your grief...:hug:

I don't know why we always deny when we're sick...
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:56 PM
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73. thank you and my father's spirit thanks you too
I'm sure he had no idea.

It will be 10 years since my Dad passed away soon.

Damned if I don't miss him and the "arguments" we used to have. We loved each other a lot no doubt.

No one can ever replace him in my life not that I'd care for a replacement anyway. It is just plain sad.

If he was still around he'd be 85 years old.

:kick: & thanks for this educational thread (stroke warnings vary a lot is what I found out).
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:27 PM
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70. Thank you! n/t
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:51 PM
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72. Ah, you're welcome, my dear slipslidingaway...
:hug:
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:24 PM
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74. Thank you!
My dad SURVIVED a massive stroke in 1998. You would never know it today - because he was in the hospital toute suite . . . because my mom knew the signs of a stroke. Great PSA.
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:35 PM
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75. Your post is real public service. Thanks so much.
This information is so simple, so easy to remember, so vitally important, and yet, I'm more than halfway through life before I've been made aware of it. I'm kind of stunned. This should be common knowledge, like knowing to put pressure on a wound or ice on a black eye. Everyone should know this. Stuff like this ought to be drilled into us in school till it's an automatic response.

A scene very much like the one your friend described happened with my grandfather. I was there. He never saw a doctor till the next day. It didn't kill him but he was never the same. It's a shame to think the knowledge of such a simple "tip" could have prevented that damage.

You've certainly done your good deed and made a difference on this day. Thanks again for your effort to make us aware.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:12 PM
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83. My dear sammythecat...
I agree...this sort of info should be drummed into us from our first first aid class...

It is always my pleasure to pass along whatever good things come my way...

:hug:
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Heathen57 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:43 PM
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76. I used these tests in January
this year for my mother and it was definitely a stroke in her case. We got her to the hospital where she had 3 more. However they were able to treat her symptoms fast enough that she is now walking with a walker, speaking well and able to eat whatever she wants.

Those tips are a good thing to pass along to others and I thank you for doing so.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:13 PM
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84. You're welcome, my dear Heathen57!
Glad your mom is doing so well...

:hug:
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WinstonSmith4740 Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:56 PM
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78. Great info
I'd like to add that if someone tells you they're having the "worst headache I've ever had", get them to a hospital to have it checked out. Those were my husband's exact words before he got hit, and by the time I actually realized what was going on, his 3 hours were pretty much gone, so he never recovered full use of his right side, and his speech is still impacted. Thankfully, the medication (which had just been approved the month before) was able to do some good, so 11 years later he's still here, and kicking. :)
But a stroke can be devastating, so don't waste time!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:15 PM
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85. My dear WinstonSmith!
This is very important, the info you've posted here...

Thank you for sharing it with all of us today...

Glad your husband did as well as he did! :hug:
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:03 PM
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79. Thank you so much, my dear CaliforniaPeggy!
Thank you for posting valuable information about both heart disease and strokes.

I will be sure to forward this!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:18 PM
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86. You're welcome, my dear ih8thegop!
You know how I am...

It's my pleasure!

:hug:
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:10 PM
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80. You truly do your sig line justice
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 02:11 PM by spoony
with such helpful posts. I had never heard of these steps. I'll be sure to email them out! :)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:19 PM
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87. Thank you, my dear spoony...
I have my sigline for that reason: To try and remind myself that this is something I want to do...

I appreciate your very kind words a lot...:hug:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:19 PM
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81. ***Additional Important Information About the Role of a Medication Ingredient (PPA) in Strokes ***
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 02:20 PM by Oregonian
Peggy ~ Thank you for posting this information about strokes. Here is an e-mail I recently received:

*******

I am passing this email forwarded to me. It's about a medication that is familiar to many of us. Note also the FDA 's comments at the end of the message.

I received this information from a friend whose mother recently passed away.

Apparently, this was caused by a medication that is deadly. Here are the details and I suggest you pass it on to your loved ones and others.

Subject: Phenylpropanolamine (PPA)

I would like to thank those of you who expressed condolences on the recent passing of my mother. She suffered a hemorrhagic stroke while she was driving home from my hou se on 3/30 and passed away on 4/4. My mother's stroke and passing was an enormous shock to my family because she did not have any symptoms or risk factors for a stroke. Just the week before she had gone to her doctor for a check up and received a clean bill of health. She did, however, develop a cold while she was visiting me and had taken Alka Seltzer Cold Plus for 3 days. Since her passing, we have learned that Alka Seltzer is one of the many cold medicines that contains Phenylpropanolamine (PPA) which can cause hemorrhagic stokes or cerebral bleeding even with the first use. I am forwarding a list of other medications that currently use PPA. These medicines are supposedly being recalled but my mother just purchased this medication less than two weeks ago. Pharmaceutical companies have known about this danger for years, we unfortunately, did not.

I urge you to review the list of medicines with PPA and avoid these medications. All drugs containing PHENYLPROPANOLAMINE are dangerous. You may want to try calling the 800 number listed on most drug boxes and inquire about a REFUND. Please read this CAREFULLY. Also, please pass this on to everyone you know. STOP TAKING anything containing this ingredient. It has been linked to increased hemorrhagic stroke (bleeding in brain) among women ages 18-49 in the three days after starting use of medication. Problems were not found in men, but the FDA recommended that everyone (even children) seek alternative medicine.

The following medications contain Phenylpropanolamine:

Acutrim Diet Gum Appetite Suppressant
Acutrim Plus Dietary Supplements
Acutrim Maximum Strength Appetite Control
Alka-Seltzer Plus Children's Cold Medicine Effervescent
Alka-Seltzer Plus Cold medicine (cherry or or ange)
Alka-Seltzer Plus Cold Medicine Original
Alka-Seltzer Plus Cold & Cough Medicine Eff ervescent
Alka-Seltzer Plus Cold & Flu Medicine
Alka-Seltzer Plus Cold & Sinus Effervescent
Alka Seltzer Plus Night-Time Cold Medicine
BC Allergy Sinus Cold Powder
BC Sinus Cold Powder
Comtrex Flu Therapy & Fever Relief
Day & Night Contac 12-Hour Cold Capsules
Contac 12 Hour Caplets
Coricidin D Cold, Flu & Sinus
Dexatrim Caffeine Free
Dexatrim Extended Duration
Dexatrim Gelcaps
Dexatrim Vitamin C/Caffeine Free
Dimetapp Cold & Allergy Chewable Tablets
Dimetapp Cold & Cough Liqui-Gels
Dimetapp DM Cold & Cough Elixir
Dimetapp Elixir
Dimetapp 4 Hour Liquid Gels
Dimetapp 4 Hour Tablets
Dimetapp 12 Hour Extentabs Tablets
Naldecon DX Pediatric Drops
Permathene Mega-16
Robitussin CF
Tavist-D 12 Hour Relief of Sinus & Nasal Congestion
Triaminic DM Cough Rel! ief
Triaminic Expectorant Chest & Head
Triaminic Syrup ! ! Cold & amp;am p; Allergy
Triaminic Triaminicol Co ld & Cough

I just found out and called the 800# on the container for Triaminic and they informed me that they are voluntarily recalling the following medicines because of a certain ingredient that is causing strokes and seizures in children:

Orange 3D Cold & Allergy Cherry (Pink)
3D Cold & Cough Berry
3D Cough Relief Yellow 3D Expectorant
They are asking you to call them at 800-548-3708with the lot number on the box so they can send you postage for you to send it back to them, and they will also issue you a refund. If you know of anyone else with small children,

PLEASE PASS THIS ON. THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF!

DO PASS ALONG TO ALL ON YOUR MAILING LIST so people are informed. They can then pass it along to their families.

To confirm these findings please take time to check the following:

http://www..fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/ppa

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:22 PM
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88. Thank you so much, my dear Oregonian!
I am so glad you've posted these warnings!

This is vital info that we all need...

And now many people will see, and hopefully heed it...

The power of DU is amazing!

:hug:
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:28 PM
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82. I don't know if you can "totally" reverse it
but the sooner it's dealt with, the better. My father died of a stroke (actually multiple ones), my brother just had what we thought was a stroke - turned out to be cerebral hemmorhaging from a conk on the head, but effectively the same thing (bleeding in the cranial cavity). He's coming back; he might not be 100% but it'll be close and if I know him, he'll work to make it 110%.

I will comment that two afflictions that are life-threatening are often confused with drunkeness. One is a diabetic coma/stupor, the other is a stroke. Both involve often slurring, difficulty moving, etc., and people just assume someone is drunk (or maybe on drugs) but there may well be a serious health issue at hand that needs immediate attention. Get some professionals there right away - particularly if the person seemed to be fine not too long ago (or if you found them in a car accident, say, and don't really know). You might be dismissive and think they're drunk but not hurt but they might really be going into diabetic shock and/or having a stroke.

A very helpful post. Thank you.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:27 PM
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89. My dear Tab...
It's impossible to know if a person will make a complete recovery or not...

There are just too many factors involved...

All my best for your brother's recovery! :hug:

Your tips on mistaking diabetic coma/stupor and strokes with drunkeness are well taken...Thank you!

I live to share whatever good things come my way...
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:22 PM
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90. Thank you so much, Peggy!
You have no idea how much good this info can do.
Yes, it can save lives.

My mom suffered a stroke two years ago.
Fortunately, the lady who helps her was with
her at the time and got her right into the hospital.

It's true- she got help within the three hour frame and
was able to recover from the major effects!

She speech returned and is normal, now.
She regained her balance although she is still mobility impaired.
( Hip fracture/ replacement)
She can say what she is thinking- a major accomplishment.
Right after her stroke, she had a lot of difficulty with that.


Thank you so much, dear Peggy.
You have saved lives with this.

:yourock: :hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:44 PM
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91. Ah, thank you, my dear Kajsa!
You know I'm a retired nurse, right?

Once a nurse....always a nurse...

I'm so glad your mom is OK!

:hug:
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:50 PM
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93. My mom was having TIAs, and . . .
. . . at the time, I had no clue about what they meant. She wound up having a major stroke, from which she never fully recovered.

Thanks for posting that information. I'll pass it on. :hug:

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:12 PM
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94. I am so sorry, my dear tilsammans...
I wish your mom had had a better outcome...

Please don't blame yourself, OK?

It wasn't your responsibility... :hug:
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 03:23 PM
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97. Thanks so much, CaliforniaPeggy, . . .
. . . for your kind thoughts. Many factors may have contributed to my mom’s having a stroke -- among them, epilepsy, hypertension, a 50-year smoking habit, possible over-medication, and at least two improperly treated head injuries.

I only wish I had recognized the symptoms as a possible stroke in the making.

But now, thanks to you, I know. Hugs back atcha! :hug:



(And kickin' it for a Monday afternoon!)
:kick:
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:44 PM
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95. Thank you for this, California Peggy.
This info and the other you posted about heart attacks is very valuable information for us to understand. Thank you for taking the time to make sure we DUers are informed.

:hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:34 PM
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96. You're welcome, my dear Cass...
I'm just trying to live up to my sigline...

I live, and love, to share...

:hug:
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