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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:16 PM
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McCain Calls for MoveOn.org to be "Thrown Out of the Country"
At a crowded rally at a VFW hall in Hudson, NH last night, McCain -- again -- used the MoveOn "Betray Us" ad as a emotional crowd-pleaser. It was a boisterous event, so when I thought I heard McCain call for MoveOn to be "thrown out" -- and then be drowned out by applause, I first went to the campaign and asked what the candidate said. They were at a loss as well, but said it seemed highly unlikely that he'd call for something so harsh. ("It goes against everything he believes in.") Today, a colleague from CBS News with better equipment played a tape from the rally. McCain did, indeed, let his passions run ahead of the First Amendment. The tape is clear. He said:

"It's disgraceful, it's got to be retracted and condemned by the Democrats and MoveOn.org ought to be thrown out of this country, my friends."

The campaign has its own take on the quote:

Senator McCain, like most Americans, is appalled by the MoveOn.org ad. Last night he expressed his outrage in words that did not convey his intended meaning. What he meant to say was that MoveOn's smear of General Petraeus' character should have no place in the American political debate.

There is, of course, a significant difference between exile and criticism.

http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/09/mccain_calls_for_moveonorg_to.html
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:18 PM
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1. "I swear to uphold and defend the Constitution"
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 07:18 PM by TomInTib
Hey, Jerk-off, how about the First Amendment?
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:36 PM
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20. You know that if he got elected
that he'd go back on his oath and say he only swore to certain things on every Feb 30th even though it's recorded otherwise. Typical republicon scumball.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:46 PM
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61. Why is McCain still in the race? I don't get it - Is he waiting for something??? What?
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:33 AM
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67. I don't know.
Maybe he wants Rudy to conceed. Or maybe he's got the voting machines rigged this time and Rudy is just there for appearances. I asked the same thing when W ran in 2000 and 2004 too.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:19 PM
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2. Uh, somebody ought to tell him, that's not legal
Why is he still campaigning?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:03 PM
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50. some one needs to tell him moveon is people. Do we all
leave?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:19 PM
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3. WTF is wrong with that guy?
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:22 PM
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7. shell shocked...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:19 PM
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4. oh the things that come out of a truly desperate persons mouth.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:20 PM
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5. what's the quote? might not like what you say but will defend to death your right to say it? nt
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:21 PM
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6. McCain, STFU.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:22 PM
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8. He needs to retire in God's Waiting Room down here in Florida
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:22 PM
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9. FREAKIN' NAZI! Moveon will be thrown out of the country as soon as the murderous cabal is!
McCain sucks.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:22 PM
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10. LAST OF THE KEATING FIVE.
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 07:23 PM by roamer65
He's the last one of them in office and needs to be recalled. C'mon AZ!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:23 PM
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11. McCain,
don't EVER call me your FRIEND. :mad:
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:24 PM
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12. Thank you, Mr. McCain, for fighting for our freedoms
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 07:27 PM by goodgd_yall
that you so cavalierly spit on. I'd hate see what you would do as president with the Constitutional disdain you are showing.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:26 PM
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13. Somebody get that man an oven...
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 07:26 PM by bliss_eternal
...to march every Moveon supporter and Democrat into. :eyes:

Fascist.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:28 PM
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14. Exactly why I just donated again to MoveOn.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. Good for you, Mac.
If you will, then so will I.

Tom
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:44 PM
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40. To cool, Tom! -- New ad from Move On!!
NEW AD!!!

Betrayal of Trust

http://pol.moveon.org/betrayaloftrust /

Help Get it on the air!
https://pol.moveon.org/donate/130k.html

Help call Bush's bluff on 'withdrawal'

President Bush told us last night that he plans on keeping 130,000 troops in Iraq indefinitely
--no end in sight. But if he can convince the public and the media that his plan is a 'withdrawal,'
Congress won't be able to pass real legislation to end this reckless war. We've put together a
new ad that calls Bush's bluff and tells Congress that his plan isn't going to cut it.

Can you chip in? https://pol.moveon.org/donate/130k.html

Read the substantiation » https://pol.moveon.org/betrayaloftrust/index.html
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #14
42. Maybe I'll donate later..
but why do I have to supply 1)*Occupation and 2)*Employer (I guess that's what's the asterisks are for)
Since i was laid off last month, I see what I can do.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:54 PM
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43. I didn't get that either but I think maybe, they want to make sure
you aren't a lobbyist or an operative, maybe?

I just put Unemployed Computer Support Specialist.

I don't care if they know.

I'm just regular folk, like a lot of the members are too!
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #43
51. Damn, how did you know I was a Computer Support Specialist?
really.. that's what I was doing for 9.5 years....bastards (not you Breeze54)
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:10 PM
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52. I didn't know you were but I am too!!!
:hug:

I graduated college for that in 1999!

I was so proud, going nights and working full time days

and then? The outsourcing began in earnest! :(

So? I still say that's what I do, when asked.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #14
55. Very good idea. I donated to the ACLU after seeing so many attacks on them
MoveOn deserves the same.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:30 PM
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15. Fuck him
Where was he when his party was swiftboating John Kerry.
At least Move On is speaking the truth.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:31 PM
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16. McDrain just go pull your plug.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:32 PM
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17. Moveon is it's members
that's a lot of us, so he wants us thrown out! Bastard.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:33 PM
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18. Isn't it SO SO amazing
the republicans can call the democrats, un-patriotic, un-American, enablers of the terrorist, helpers of bin laden, commies, etc etc. coutler and rush among others who scream names and filthy epitaphs about democrats.

But just let the democrats hit back, and with an ad that is TRUE, and the republicans mess their pants, spew more slime than usual and even want a congressional hearing.

What is wrong with this picture. Do they expect us to cave like the democrats did with the previous ad about the republicans that the spineless jellyfish called the democratic congress did...yes.

They expect us to give in on each and every thing the tell us to do. They have had control of the MSM for so long, spewing their filth about democrats they think they are members of bush the king's royal family.

Well I think it is time we not only fought back we should MAKE THE DAMN PRESS print our replies, our letters and our views.

I am sick sick sick to death of all this caving to the republicans. It is time democrats started to kick ass and tell especially the bunch of wimpy ass cowards running for president to, you are correct, they should shut the hell up. NOW.

This old grey haired 75 year old grandmother just wishes she had a republican ass near her to kick...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:35 PM
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19. Senile Dementia
Poor man. It's time he retired to the quiet life of skimming the pool for leaves.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:37 PM
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22. "But the group that attacked my young daughter is great!"
:eyes:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:38 PM
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23. He's fucking nuts.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:45 PM
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24. That McCain Campaign juggernaut just keeps picking up speed, doesn't it?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #24
39. OMG! I choked on my drink at the sight of that picture!!
:rofl:

Too damn funny!! :rofl:

I copied it!! Thanks for the giggles! :D
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #24
48. LOL!
:rofl:
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:51 PM
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25. Another guy running for president who doesn't understand the job
They've learned from Chimp Boy so well.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:51 PM
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26. SuperMcCain: Destroyer of the First Amendment
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 07:52 PM by Whoa_Nelly
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:53 PM
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27. wow, so that's where you're headed, eh john? think therapy
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:58 PM
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28. Oh god, he doesn't think at all anymore,
someone should give him some cocoa and make him take a nap.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:04 PM
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29. Sometimes like with this
one is reminded what we are really up against.

If they had the power, they'd be putting us in detention centers, and ultimately killing us. It's that clear. Pure fascism that never allows for another view. IT IS NOT PERMITTED.

Never mind, the endless things said by the right wing with threats to actual lives over the last many years.

They scare the shit out of me sometimes. But my despisement (is that a word?) of them combined with pity (they are so to be pitied) makes it okay somehow-just barely.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:08 PM
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30. Geezus. The phony fucking outrage over that ad is just beyond absurd.
This from the party that called Bill Clinton a "scumbag" on the floor of the House of Representatives.

Give me a fucking break.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:07 PM
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31. our troops are being slaughtered protecting johnny boy's freedom to tell moveon to shut up
makes you real proud.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. McLame has said that the only Amendment of the Constitution
that is worth keeping is the 2nd. All the others should be scrapped. Uh, just kiddin' & using my little Freedom of Speech here. hehe
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:25 PM
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33. WTF about the GOP attack on John Kerry & Max Cleland-will they be thrown out
as well-or does it only apply to democrats?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:27 PM
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34. whatever happened to Free speech and being tolerate of others
oh, wait, this is bushland.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:31 PM
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35. He's going to throw 3 million people out of the country??
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

What a fucking idiot!!! :)

He's brain damaged and I suspect getting senile!
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:32 PM
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36. They are such freakin' whiny babies. I'm sick of seeing them
complain about being criticized. "But he's a General. How dare they?" etc etc.

Sheesh. Bunch of wimps.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:55 PM
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45. yeah, they are whiny wimps. But the best way to fight their crap is attack
I had my beefs with Bill Clinton, but one thing he did that our other leaders should be doing is when he was attacked, he turned and attacked right back. His popularity rose when he did this. When Democrats fold, like they do when ever a Republican has a hissy fit, their popularity goes down. Bill Maher is right; they need to stop looking like weak "Can't we all get along?" types and push back when the Republican shrill machine is attacking.

I want to see MoveOn upgrade the ferocity of their attacks on this awful Bush administration.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:34 PM
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37. Did he have to hitchhike to the rally? Doesn't his campaign have like $3.50 in its coffers?
Senor McCain, it's been a while since anyone has paid you any attention. Or haven't you noticed?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:37 PM
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38. Just like the fundie funders behind the Swift Boat ad?
He would have made a better point if he changed MoveOn to "Rudy".
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:47 PM
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41. Did he even read the ad?
No, of course he didn't.

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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:54 PM
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44. A shame he didn't feel the same way about the Smear Boat Vets
for Bush or purple heart band aid creeps at the republican convention! Fuck McCain, he has no credibility anymore!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:55 PM
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46. McCain's true colors come shining through.
When the debate is two sided, these goons just can't stand it. It's all too fair for them.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:58 PM
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47. this from an idiot who sang ..bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran...??
what an utter moran!!..what a pitiful pathetic little old man!

a bitter old man...who is getting the shit kicked out of him!

and deservedly so!

fly
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:02 PM
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49. Hey McC rain, eat this:
The Bush and Cheney Criminal Cabal should be thrown out of the country with a one way ticket to The Hague!

Can you hear the applause, a**hole?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:17 PM
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53. Hey johnny you fucking lunatic - I GAVE 100 BUCKS TO THEM!
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 10:21 PM by TankLV
I just might give them more.

Hey johhnny - how bout we send you back to a cage in vietnam for safe keeping...

the country would have been better off if you stayed there...

Most Americans APPLAUD MoveOn's ad...
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:29 PM
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54. Just sent a nastygram to McCain, not sure that it will do much good
but it certainly got it off of my chest.

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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:51 PM
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56. This is why I salute Kucinich for standing up for our constitution at every turn.
Most candidates running for president don't see the attack on our constitution and rights as being a big issue. Very scary!
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:03 PM
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57. Has McCain not noticed the extent of the country's anger?
This ad shows the deep frustration and the strong feeling of anger at what has happened to our country. The times have changed John---WAKE UP!
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:25 PM
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58. The Fat Head Express
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:27 PM
Original message
"Freedom of speech is all well and fine, so long as I agree with what you say"
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:27 PM
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59. Why stop at throwing them out? Think how happy he could make the base
if he called for beheadings.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:32 PM
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60. McCain is Insane in the Membrane





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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:54 PM
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62. " Hypocrites"
Bob Marley



Hypocrites

Dip for diplomatic;
'Yp for hypocratic;
Dry for dry-land tourist;
Tup for Topper Norris!
See de 'ypocrites, them a-galang deh!
See de 'ypocrites, them a-galang deh!
See de 'ypocrites, them a-galang deh! Man, go!
---
/Instrumental break/
---
Dem cut - cut - cut against 'em one another;
Cut - cut - cut against 'em one another.
Oh, them teach to love one another;
Oh, them teach to love one another. Man, go!
---
/Instrumental break/
---
Dem a rum - come - come wid a gravalicious;
Dem a rum - come - come wid a gravalicious;
Dem a rum-a - come-a - come-a wid a gravalicious;
Dem a rum-a - come - come-a wid a gravalicious.
---
/Instrumental break/
---
See de 'ypocrites, them a-galang deh!
See de 'ypocrites, them a-galang deh!
See de 'ypocrites, them a-galang deh!
See de 'ypocrites, them a-galang deh! Man, go!
---
/Instrumental break/
---
Dip-a (for diplomatic);
A 'yp-a (for hypocratic);
Dry - dry - dry (for dry-land tourist);
A tup-pa - tup-pa - tup-pa (for Topper Norris)!
See de 'ypocrites, them a-galang deh!
See de 'ypocrites, them a-galang deh!
See de 'ypocrites, them a-galang deh! Man, go!
---
/Instrumental ending/
/fadeout/

http://www.lyricsdownload.com/marley-bob-hypocrites-lyrics.html
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whoneedstickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:58 PM
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63. In his defense he said the EXACT same thing about the Swift Boat Vets Campaign against Kerry.
Oh, actually he didn't!

What a pathetic ass.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:02 AM
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64. AND, Who Will Be Next, the JEWS?
There is a reason why they are not called "democratic" party!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #64
65. Oh yeah, and NICE "JOB" with your Abramoff cover-up hearing Sen. McCain. WE WILL NOT FORGET
how you saved GW's arse with those shenanigans. Man, did the gaming money pour in for you after that!
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 12:23 AM
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66. He wants a chance to swear to uphold the Constitution of the US of A
Bill of Rights?

And this from someone who was fucked over by the Bushies in the South Carolina 2000 Presidential Primary.

John McCain. War hero, POW, US Senator, and major league asshole.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:34 AM
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68. Sieg heil, Johann!
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anniebelle Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:41 AM
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69. When you lose respect for yourself, this is what happens.
After Bush made him into the little man that he truly is in the 2000 election, McCain has shown what he's really made of -- 100% B.S.
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JimboDem Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:44 AM
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70. Dear John the Enabler
Because of your unAmerican comments, I will re-contribute to moveon.org
You see Sir, THEY have something you've lost long ago....balls.
Hug a Shrub, you bastard.
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