Mother's boyfriend suspected in hanging of Texas girl, 6

[Liberal_in_LA]

When will women stop exposing their young children to the latest boyfriend? What kind of sick $#%& hangs a 6 year old?
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5133758.html

Mother's boyfriend suspected in hanging of Texas girl, 6

Associated Press

CORSICANA — The boyfriend of a dead 6-year-old girl's mother is the "current primary suspect" in the sexual assault and hanging of the girl, the Navarro County sheriff's office said Thursday.

Live-in boyfriend Kevin Wayne Anders was arrested Wednesday on a charge of possession of child pornography. He remained in the Navarro County Jail on Thursday. Bail was set at $100,000.

http://www.star-telegram.com/crime_courts/story/234834.html

Investigators have said that Hanna was sexually assaulted before she died. Her mother found her Monday morning hanging inside the family's garage, authorities said.

"I will confirm that the hanging and sexual assault were part of this scenario," Cox said Wednesday.

In a letter to the Sheriff's Department, Navarro County Judge Vicki Gray said an autopsy of the body showed "a multitude of events that together caused the death of this child."

[Breeze54]

1. Ar first glance, I thought your title said YOUR Mother's boyfriend!

:silly:

That guy is a sociopath and they are very clever and cunning.

Do NOT blame the Mom!! :grr: It isn't her fault!!

Many people are fooled by sociopaths because they are sneaky liars!!

He's a fucking crazy mother fucker and should be hung by his balls!! :grr:

[Liberal_in_LA]

8. Not blaming mom but....

I'm not blaming the mom but I have to comment on the events that lead to the death.

1. Moving some scummy guy into the house with 3 young girls?
2. 6 year old was last seen sleeping on the sofa at 1 am? No one even made sure the kid was tucked into bed?

[Breeze54]

11. My kids used to fall asleep on the couch all the time.

That's pretty typical in a lot of homes, I think.

How do you know he wasn't clean cut looking?
I haven't seen a picture of the fucking crazy bastard.

Look? He is a criminal!! Even cops get fooled by sociopaths!!

To expect a Mom to have her criminal detector on all the time is unrealistic.

He must've talked a good con to her, is my guess.

[WinkyDink]

19. Photo in OP's link.

[Breeze54]

28. Thanks WinkyDink but my point is

that you can not tell by looking at someone if they're a murderer or a pedofile
or just a nice person. Look at Ted Bundy! All his contacts thought he was just
a great guy, while he brutally murdered college co-eds all across the country!!!


Kevin Wayne Anders is shown in a Sept. 12 booking photo.
Sheriff's deputies identified him as a primary suspect in
the death of Hanna Mack. Navarro County Sheriff's Department: AP

This suspect looks pissed off and scared to me, but would I
suspect him of being a child murderer? I don't think so.

Mr. Anders extensive criminal record :sarcasm: consisted of a 2005
misdemeanor charge of driving with an invalid license!!!

That's it!! And people in this thread are blaming the Mom because
she didn't "detect" this guy might be a dangerous threat?

:silly:

[SoCalDem]

15. Yep.. this is a pet peeve of mine too

There are tons of single moms who are naive and lonely, and these creeps prey on them.. Sometimes these Moms would rathere "look the other way" than to risk "losing" their boyfriend..:grr:

I think you would find too, that in MOST of these cases, their friends and family had vibes about the boyfirend, but the self esteem issues of the Moms, prevents them from paying attention.. It's shameful that in this day and age, women still feel the need to "find a man"..even if that man is dangerous to their children..

[AspenRose]

24. What you said.

It happens far too often unfortunately....too many women who try to find their self-esteem in a relationship....very sad.

[Liberal_in_LA]

25. I agree with what you say. Self-esteem and loneliness play into the situation - Mom settles for any

creep that looks her way.

[EFerrari]

34. Sociopaths often present well until they don't. n/t

[Sadie4629]

12. This may be an unpopular opinion, but

in general, the new guy has no interest in the last guy's spawn. Maybe it's a biological instinct or something. But, how often do we hear of the new boyfriend shaking the girlfriend's baby, or hitting a child, or whatever? Way too often, the kid ends up dead or disabled as a result of injuries inflicted by mom's new b.f.

The BEST thing a woman can do for her child is to have a stable relationship--not necessarily marriage--with the baby's father. Much more likely to happen if a woman doesn't hook up with a jerk in the first place. But, if she has a history of finding losers, then maybe she shouldn't be in any relationship until her children are old enough to defend themselves.

[Breeze54]

26. Yes, I'm sure she analyzed all of that before she decided to date him.

:eyes:

Yup, yesirree!! Let's blame the Mother!!:grr:

[Heidi]

30. If a parent is solely responsible for a child's welfare,

he or she absolutely must be accountable when something like this happens. I'm sorry, Breeze. You know I very much respect you, but I don't understand why any parent (doesn't make any difference to me whether it's a mother, father or both) would get a free pass when his/her child is sexually assaulted and murdered right under the parent's nose.

My understanding is that in any investigation, the people closest to the victim are the first investigated. I have absolutely no problem. If the mother is in any way at fault, that should be brought to light. If the mother in this case was not at all at fault, that also should come to light.

[Breeze54]

31. Considering nobody has all the details and timelines about this case;

I find it offensive that people are judging this woman before they know the facts!!

The guy had one misdemeanor in 2005, a traffic ticket!! That's IT!!!

I, myself, would not have felt threatened by that! Would you?

It's ridiculous to admonish this Mother before anyone knows the facts of the case!

The divorce rate in the USA is at 55%(?) and if any of you think that women and men
aren't 'meeting up', then take off your rose colored glasses please!!

I respect you and like you also Heidi but I think you're wrong on this, as far as blaming
the Mom for another's despicable actions! He made a choice, if he did do this, and blaming
her is ludicrous, imho! Not every one is as astute as you....

:hug:

[Heidi]

33. To the extent that blaming the mother is premature at this point, I agree with you 100 percent.

And you make me smile, Breeze, because there are many, many people who are far _more_ astute than me. I just try to be fair. :hug:

[cali]

13. I may blame Mom

You need to be incredibly careful about who you bring into your children's lives. Now, I don't know enough yet, to say she was a negligent parent, but it wouldn't surprise me.

[SoCalDem]

16. It never changes does it? I wrote this in '05..

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/SoCalDem/14


With Mothers' Day approaching, it pains me to see so many BAD mothers

Sun Apr 17th 2005, 09:09 AM

I guess we have glamorized mothers over the years, and no one ever wants to BE a bad mother, but so many seem to be "achieving" that status...Can it be an accident?

The sad thing here is that the bad mother may pay with a few months in jail or a longer sentence...she may pay in later years when her surviving children don't write, call, or visit...but the ones who REALLY pay are the children she "loses" along the way.

Nature (survival of the fittest) has determined that mothers are responsible for the care of their young. It may be sexist, but for a few exceptions it's just a fact. Even reptiles who do not rear their young, have motherly duties beyond mating and laying eggs. The reptile mother who lays her eggs in the wrong spot will not have any young survive. Mammalian moms have it more difficult... they must also teach their young, in addition to feeding and protecting them.

It seems to me that the animals, as under assault as they are these days, seem to be doing a better job that some human moms.

We see the "mother" in the MJ case, who apparently pimped her kid (who had cancer) to MJ. Now even if one believes that he is not a pedophile, is it really a good idea to let a man in his 40's (famous or not) sleep with your adolescent son? Does taking money and gifts make it ok?

We see the mother who was "absent" from her daughter's life, so she lived with her Dad and his parents. Jessica was apparently well cared for (for 9 years) and I am sure her dad and grandparents loved her, but the fact remains.... a predator living practically next door killed her. I am not saying that her mother being there could have necessarily prevented it, but mothers are important to a girl that age, and perhaps having mother in her life could have "outed" this creepy guy before he had a chance to grab her.

Now another young girl is killed in Florida, and it looks like it's a guy her mother "dated". Mothers who choose companionship over their children's safety, are jeopardizing their lives for a few meals out, some flowers, a romp in the hay.

Single moms are sometimes the best moms in the world, BECAUSE they know that they are IT, as far as protecting their kids. There is no Dad to jump in and help. Single moms I have known do not even let their kids MEET their "boyfriend" until they are SURE of what kind of a person he is , and he has been "vetted".

Lots of predators LOOK for the needy woman with a child. They flatter the woman, but deep down it's their KID that they want. Somewhere along the line those mothers have turned their "radar" off, in exchange for some personal attention.

We are going to lose a lot more children if things don't change. Putting GPS monitors on every predator we know of will not keep chldren from being killed. It will only help us find the perpetrator after the fact. And "tagging" predators will not address a bigger problem.. the Dad, step-dad, boyfriend, scout leader, pillar of society, the minister, the school teacher, the coach...These are predators who sneak under the radar. They may not kill the child, but they do kill their souls, and self esteem.and worst of all. they steal their childhoods. That's something that can never be regained

A better solution might be to really help mothers..especially single moms. Lots of girls are growing up (and have been for a long time) without guidance from THEIR moms, so when they have children, they just wing it.

A few things could help a LOT:

Decent affordable day care (older children need looking after too)

Housing that is not in the WORST areas (where scuzzy low-lifes congregate)

Education so that moms do not have to work the lowest paid jobs, and several of them , just to get by...leaving no time with their children


No one looks into the eyes of their newborn and thinks that they will be a bad mom. They see those little eyes looking at them and imagine all the wonderful things in store for that baby, but somewhere along the line, a lot of those babies are being lost..

This is a stain on our society...that we cannot seem to protect our young...and we don't seem to be making much headway.

Some people march around with signs to make sure every baby is born, but how many are marching with signs, insisting that mothers get help to raise those babies??

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[girl_interrupted]

2. The suspect was allowed to make bail?

Why? How could anyone do this to a child? And how could any county offer him the opportunity to make bail? Crazy!

[Breeze54]

3. No. Bail was set at $100K but I doubt he'll meet it!

Creeps like that usually don't have any $$!!

Let's hope he doesn't! But I agree. Why not a No Bail order??

What the fuck is that judge thinking??? :crazy:

[LisaL]

14. Because he hasn't been charged with the assault and murder.

[BadgerLaw2010]

43. Yeah, no bail for capital murder.

[Richard Steele]

4. Because he hasn't been charged in connection with the girl's death.

He's only charged with possession of child porn at the moment.
They won't hold him without bail for that.

[girl_interrupted]

6. dicksteele thank you

for pointing that out to me!

[hang a left]

9. They will have to wait for the DNA to come back.

Then the fucker is a goner.

[Richard Steele]

10. Let's hope he's behind bars until it does.

I hope he doesn't make bail on the kiddy porn charge.
Because it seems obvious that there's a REALLY good
chance he was responsible for the little girl's death.

[XemaSab]

5. Oh God.

:cry:

It's really horrid that there are sick fucks like this out there. I hope they throw the book at him (if he's guilty). :cry:

[Nomad559]

7. This little girl was murdered

by her stepfather.

The Kelsey Shelton Briggs Story

Video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uWow42TCwzg

:cry:

[porphyrian]

17. Sexual assault, then hanging.

Not that the additional horror excuses it, but it makes more "sense" than simply hanging the kid.

[WinkyDink]

18. "He is married, but not to Hanna's mother." OFGS. No, this mother is not exculpatory, IMO.

[Breeze54]

29. How judgemental of you!

You have barely any info from that article but you are also blaming the Mom?

Because she was OMGosh! Single??? And had a relationship with a man???

I pray you do not work in the Criminal Justice field!

Gonzo, is that you?

[tammywammy]

20. Just when you think it can't get worse it does

I read the article in the Dallas Morning News yesterday about this, that poor girl.

Apparently he was accused of sexual assault before, by a 15 year old (I believe) and that's his wife. He's not married to Hanna's mother.

[LisaL]

21. Right. The article said 15 year old accused him of sexual assault.

But the grand jury didn't indict him. He later on married the girl who accused him.
By my calculation he would have been 20 years old at the time 15 year old accused him. So, I wonder what was the age of consent in Texas is?

[tammywammy]

22. The age of consent in Texas is 17

[Contrary1]

23. Interesting...

The state with the most executions still has something like this.

Guess the death penalty really is a deterrent, huh? :eyes:

[DemBones DemBones]

32. I don't know if little Hanna's mother was looking the other way or naive

but once I had a 14 year-old student who came to see me after school for advice about her home situation. Mom's boyfriend had been in prison for three years, for molesting one of my student's friends, who was 10 or 11 at the time. Now he was about to get out and Mom was going to welcome him back into their home. Not only that but she was angry that her daughter refused to talk to him when he telephoned from prison. "You have to be nice to him, he'll be living here again."

How can anyone be that stupid? The man would have molested my student earlier but she was always too fast, would lock herself in her room. She told her mother that he had tried to molest her and the mother refused to believe her. My student was convinced he would try again once he got back in their home. Of course I reported it but who knows whether anything was done about it?

I cannot understand a mother not wanting to protect her child from a known sex offender. But I doubt this was the only such case in the country. It probably wasn't the only such case in that county.

I don't know how single mothers can tell whether to trust a man with their children, am glad I never had to try to figure that out.

Whoever killed little Hanna should get life without parole. Dangerous animals have to be caged.

[Breeze54]

35. "and Mom was going to welcome him back into their home."

Now I agree! THAT is blatant ignorance and neglect!!

The Mom, in your scenario knew that the guy had a criminal background.

But dating a guy with one traffic ticket makes Mom "all knowing" of his deviant thoughts?

I think not.

Thanks for shedding some light on the differences! :thumbsup:

[EFerrari]

36. This mother herself is also a victim. Blaming her

is flat out denial that bad things happen that are beyond our control.

[Breeze54]

37. "When Bad Things Happen To Good People" - That 's a book, right?

;)

[DemBones DemBones]

39. I'm not blaming her. I thought I made that clear.

I am blaming the women who look the other way while their child(ren) are abused.

I don't know if Hanna's mother is one of those women or not but I'm not pre-judging her.

Edit: Or are you arguing that I shouldn't blame a woman who was about to take back into her home a man who was getting out of prison after serving three years for abusing a young girl, unconcerned about her 14 year-old daughter's fears of the man, unbelieving of what her daughter told her he had tried to do to her before he was arrested for abusing her young friend?

That is looking the other way, putting your probably transitory happiness ahead of your child's safety, possibly even her life.

[EFerrari]

41. I wonder what it is about this story that would make you

go off on women you don't know.

[DemBones DemBones]

44. I wonder what it is about you that makes you

accuse me of going off on women I don't know. Bye bye.

[DemBones DemBones]

40. Yes, that was a classic case of denial of facts.

Hanna's mother may not have known any facts about her boyfriend except that he was cheating on his wife with her. (And he may be innocent; I haven't heard anything more about this case.)

Besides women being watchful of how their husband or boyfriend treats their children (remembering that some men abuse their own kids), the best way to prevent child abuse is to educate young children about "good touching" and "bad touching" and to keep them on a pretty short leash when they're young.

Children deserve all the love and protection their parents can give them.

[Scout]

38. When will men stop abusing the young children of their latest girlfriend?

that broad brush you paint with sting a little when used to paint the above?


"When will women stop exposing their young children to the latest boyfriend?" :puke:

[Ariana Celeste]

42. bail should have been set much higher than that

Jesus Christ how fucking ridiculous the 'justice system' is. I was caught with a few mushrooms and a little bit of pot and my bail was set at $50,000. This motherfucker sexually abuses a little girl and then murders her, and his bail is only *twice* that? Fucking SICK.