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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:36 PM
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A co-worker said some evangelicals in south voted for Bush because...
they felt to vote for him would help bring on Armageddon! I believe this. I know this is wholly anecdotal but the guy has family and friends in the south who said that they have heard people say this. These evangelicals want the return of Christ so much that they felt that with Bush in office that the world was bound to blow up in Armageddon.

I can imagine some of his "supporters" believing such a thing.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:40 PM
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1. Those fundies think BUSH=GOD
Sounds like they want to be part of a cult or something.

:puke: :nuke:
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Feral Libertarian Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:42 PM
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6. The difference between religion and a cult....
.... is that religion doesn't have to pay taxes and cults do.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:20 PM
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28. Religion...a cult with an army.
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Feral Libertarian Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:40 PM
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2. Living in the bible belt
I can assure you that is the case. Churches have kicked members out for failure to avow that they would vote for Bush before the 2004 election.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:44 PM
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7. I second that
As a former fundy and ex-minister I can assure you that there were a lot of "true believers" who thought Bush would usher in the Second Coming of Jesus®.

I've had religious people argue with me that it's necessary to torture and do all the bad things we do because it will hasten the return of Our Saviour™.

It's all for a good cause, you know.

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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:53 PM
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15. It is true...
I live deep in the Bible belt and I have actually
heard 'little old church ladies' say that when Dumbya
bombs Iran, he will be doing "God's work". :puke:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:44 PM
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33. Yep, that's the truth where I live too.
I hear ya.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:41 PM
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3. Selfish assholes! Selfish, self-serving and self-absorbed assholes!
Oh and delusional as well as being assholes. These morans would be so disappointed if they knew that george's "born again" status was a Rove PR move to get them to vote for him. :evilgrin: They have been had. :rofl:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:41 PM
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4. And they criticize the Muslim terrorists
Hey at least they only kill themselves and those immediately around them.

These numbnuts want to kill themselves and the rest of us!

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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:42 PM
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5. They belong in Mental Institutions ....not among the "thinking People"
They are misguided, insane and dangerous.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:45 PM
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8. Seriously if they want to die so desperately


They can all jump off a cliff and stop fugging up the planet.
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:32 PM
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38. That is a beautiful picture...
as I am afraid of heights, I would have dead of a heart attack if that had been me in the picture...;)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 06:28 AM
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42. It's not me
I found the pix on the web.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:45 PM
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9. Not exclusive to the south
I remember hearing from it from a fundie in the north a few times back in 2001
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:47 PM
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11. ...
:thumbsup:
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:50 PM
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12. It's what passes for their social lives and Bushco has hijacked it
I know it's a horror, but at some point most of them will realize they've been taken.
Regrettably this is often the day their friendly Christian banker evicts them for not being able to pay the mortgage or when their offspring come back from Dick and Junior's Iraq vacation in a bag.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:49 PM
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36. Jimmy Carter, Martin Luther King...
I try to judge people by how they treat other people, not what groups they belong to.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:52 PM
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13. they love pollution too
I live far up north and until a polluting paper mill went broke, the fundie politicians blocked the efforts to get them to clean up their pollution and follow the law. They went so far as to ask our DEM representative to also block efforts too. He did. They were quite happy with the fact that the children in their community suffered respiratory illnesses at the same rate as the most polluted place in this country!

Just love those values!
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:52 PM
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14. Now why would anyone want armageddon?
Don't know about anyone else, but I'd like to stay alive a few more years. Oh yeah, it's because the fundies are better than us heathens because they believe in some strange version of god. Just fucked up if you ask me.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:56 PM
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18. They are selfish/self-righteous self-serving/self absorbed assholes.
Who knew? :rofl:
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:58 PM
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20. Because the rapture comes first.
Not sayin' it's so, just telling you what they are hearing from the pulpit.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:55 PM
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16. The people I know who voted for him were hoping for the "Rapture"
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 05:56 PM by Frustratedlady
and truly believed (and still do)that George would lead them.

All it takes is someone standing on stage, yelling hell and damnation and they get into that frenzy and will believe anything. If you watch an evangelist, they build their preaching from a soft, low pitch slowly to a loud and thunderous roar. By that time, they have people rolling in the aisles, tears running down their cheeks...they've got them in their pocket and they are in the congregation's pockets....big time!

It's an art and a lucrative one, at that!
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:07 PM
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25. As I recall, Hitler also started his speeches the same way.
Not that I wish to draw parallels between Nazis and evangelical prea -- oh, hell, what am I saying? Of course I do...
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:56 PM
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17. I can believe this but most of
the southern (and other) evangelicals I know are more afraid of the "homosexual agenda". That seemed to be more the driving force than bringing on Armageddon.
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:06 PM
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24. I looked fast
and thought you wrote that they were afraid of the 'homosexual panda.' What? That too? But Pandas are so cute!
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:07 PM
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26. Well, that's another issue altogether!
:)
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 05:57 PM
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19. Evangelicals brought this on
Their desire to proselytize the rest of us into obeying their whacko evangelical rules is what caused all of this.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:01 PM
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21. Well, those "Children of the Corn" should have their right to vote stripped from them.
Their intentions are bad enough. After all, your lawmakers seem to have no trouble disenfranchsing other felons, even after they've paid their debt, so voting isn't obviously an absolute right.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:02 PM
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22. an attack on Iran
may well bring on Armageddon...but there will be no rapture. I live in the northwest. My mother was having her hair done and the stylist sighed and said she couldn't wait until "Jesus comes." They are all over. Like e. coli.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:05 PM
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23. I believe it
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 06:05 PM by depakid
Whenever I go to the South, I hear things like this that just make my jaw drop.
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:08 PM
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27. Jesus had some words for those who would bring on Armageddon
It must needs be that trials and tribulations will come, but woe to those by whom they come! It would be better for such to have a millstone hung around their neck and be thrown into the sea ... (Luke 17:1-2)

I would think these words are especially applicable to those who would want to bring about the Great Tribulation, or to facilitate the Rapture or Armageddon.
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:29 PM
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29. It's amazing to me how blindly and unthinkingly self-centered those people are
And they break their arms patting themselves on the backs for being the "good" ones in a world full of "sinners". Sheesh.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:52 PM
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30. "God, yer on notice. We'll tell you when to end it all."
We ain't havin' none of that "no one knows the hour of his coming" crap. People like us wanted Jesus to be a conquering general the first time, and you and he both blew it then. Well, we ain't havin' any mo' of that shit. This time yer gonna do it our way on our schedule. And we're gonna force your hand. Now git with it, God.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:03 PM
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31. Christian Fundamentalists or Muslim Fundamentalists both have one thing
in common, THEY LOVE DEATH!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:12 PM
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32. (shrug) Who cares why? It's enough to know that they can be counted on...
... to do the wrong thing. Let the region go. We can win without the bigoted fuckwipes.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:53 PM
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37. it can't be a coincidence can it? nt.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:11 PM
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34. The more benign variety voted for him "because he's a good,
christian man", and a lot of those folks are horrified, but that doesn't mean that they won't fall for the next snake oil salesman. Gotta keep working on them!

I do get amused at Randi Rhodes, and others, who continually state things like, 'present people with facts', 'tell people the truth', blah, blah, blah. What is misunderstood is that if the types that you've referenced read something in the newspaper that is in contradiction to what the preacher is telling them, then the paper is an instrument of satan. I've been told to my face that I'm an instrument of satan.

I refuse to refer to them as anything other than cultists.

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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:48 PM
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35. funny thing about Sandwich-Bread Christians (Genesis, Revelations, and nuttin' else)--they wouldn't
know the Antichrist if he bit them in the ass--or tells the Amish that God speaks through him...
why are fundies so eager for false messiahs; I don't think they read the Book, just think what the pastors selectively tell them to (and does the CIA tell the pastors? it's like Spook Central wants an army of public opinion so we can have Godly Wars against whoever has oil :think:)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:06 AM
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39. That's why these people are extremely dangerous to the peace of the world -- !!!!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:31 AM
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40. I'm not sure they voted for him for that reason but

there's no question there are some who want it now. Maybe they are just claiming that's why they voted for him because they have decided that should have been the reason they voted for him. Re-writing their own history a bit.

We know there are people just dying (pun intended) for Armageddon to arrive. And they're not all in the South, by any means. They're all over the country. Why they think God would want them messing around with His timetable is what I'd like to ask them.

But I'm in the South and all I ever heard in 2000 was anti-Clinton comments. Bush was the anti-Clinton to Clinton haters. People started really believing God put him in office after 9/11, though what he or Guiliani did that impressed people escaped me. "I hear you. And they'll hear us" yelled through a bullhorn is not the equal of the Gettysburg Address.

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:47 AM
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41. More proof that evangelicals are mentally ill.
:scared:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 06:45 AM
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43. Bush seems to be doing his best to oblige them
coming up just a little short trying to bring about the Rapture is not good. It's like just missing shooting the moon in hearts.
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:30 AM
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44. Bush=Armageddon....mayhaps they were right on target.
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