Update DIE-IN PHOTOS: D.C. Rally/Protest - Sept. 15, 2007 Thread #2!

[Hissyspit]

First Thread is here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1815573

Antiwar demonstrators stage a die in during a rally calling for an end to the war in Iraq at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, September 15, 2007. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (UNITED STATES)

Antiwar demonstrators stage a die in during a rally calling for an end to the war in Iraq at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, September 15, 2007. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (UNITED STATES)

Iraq war protestors John Surdyk of Illinois, bottom right, and Vietnam War veteran John Anderson of Lebanon, Or., seated on wheelchair, join a 'die in' protest on Capitol Hill, Saturday, Sep. 15, 2007, in Washington. At least 150 protesters were arrested Saturday as thousands of demonstrators marched to the Capitol demanding an end to the Iraq war. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

Iraq war protestor Russ McSpadden of West Palm Beach, Fla., joins a 'die In' protest on the grounds of the U.S. Capitol, Saturday, Sep. 15, 2007, in Washington. At least 150 protesters were arrested Saturday as thousands of demonstrators marched to the Capitol demanding an end to the Iraq war. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

Sept. 15, 2007, in Washington. At least 150 protesters were arrested Saturday as thousands of demonstrators marched to the Capitol demanding an end to the Iraq war. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

Antiwar demonstrators dressed as U.S. President George W. Bush (R) and Vice President Dick Cheney rally calling for an end to the war in Iraq in Washington, September 15, 2007. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (UNITED STATES)

Antiwar demonstrators stage a die in during a rally calling for an end to the war in Iraq at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, September 15, 2007. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (UNITED STATES)

U.S. Capitol Police wrestle an Iraq war protestor to the ground after he jumped over a security barricade erected on Capitol grounds, Saturday, Sep. 15, 2007, in Washington. At least 150 protesters were arrested Saturday as thousands of demonstrators marched to the Capitol demanding an end to the Iraq war. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

Anti-war demonstrator lie on the ground as they participate in a 'die-in' on the grounds of the U.s. Capitol, Saturday, Sept. 15, 2007, in Washington. At least 150 protesters were arrested Saturday as thousands of demonstrators marched to the Capitol demanding an end to the Iraq war. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

Geoff Millard, left, and members of the Iraq Veterans Against the War, join protestors gather on Capitol Hill, Saturday, Sep. 15, 2007, in Washington. At least 150 protesters were arrested Saturday as thousands of demonstrators marched to the Capitol demanding an end to the Iraq war. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

Thousands of demonstrators march through the streets of Washington during the protest against the war in Iraq Saturday, Sept. 15, 2007, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

U.S. Capitol Police secure entrances to the U.S. Capitol, against Iraq war protestors gathered on the Capitol grounds, Saturday, Sep. 15, 2007, in Washington. At least 150 protesters were arrested Saturday as thousands of demonstrators marched to the Capitol demanding an end to the Iraq war. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta) Email Photo Print Photo

Antiwar demonstrators rally in front of the White House calling for an end to the war in Iraq in Washington September 15, 2007. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (UNITED STATES)

Reuters - Sat Sep 15, 5:41 PM ET A police officer keeps watch as protesters march, against the war in Iraq, along Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, September 15, 2007. REUTERS/Stelios Varias (UNITED STATES)

Relatives of soldiers who died in the war in Iraq protest against the war as they march through down Pennsylvania Ave. Saturday Sept. 15, 2007, in Washington. Thousands of demonstrators marched through Washington chanting against the war. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

Protestors gather on Capitol Hill, Saturday, Sept. 15, 2007, in Washington. At least 150 protesters were arrested Saturday as thousands of demonstrators marched to the Capitol demanding an end to the Iraq war. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

U.S. Capitol Police arrest an unidentified anti-Iraq war protestor wearing a military uniform, as he crosses a security barricade erected on Capitol grounds, Saturday, Sept. 15, 2007, in Washington. At least 150 protesters were arrested Saturday as thousands of demonstrators marched to the Capitol demanding an end to the Iraq war. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

Demonstrators supporting troops in Iraq confront protesters opposing the war in Iraq Saturday Sept. 15, 2007, in Washington. Thousands of demonstrators marched to Capital Hill chanting against the war. (AP Photo/Jose Luis Magana)

An anti-war demonstrator (L) passes supporters of the war in Iraq during a march on Pennsylvania Avenue against the war in Iraq in Washington September 15, 2007. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (UNITED STATES)

Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark takes part in antiwar demonstrators calling for an end to the war in Iraq in Washington September 15, 2007. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (UNITED STATES)

Antiwar demonstrators rally in front of the White House calling for an end to the war in Iraq in Washington September 15, 2007. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (UNITED STATES)

A demonstrator emerges from a portable toilet during a protest against the war in Iraq, in Washington, September 15, 2007. Thousands of protesters and counter-protesters took to the streets of the nation's capital on Saturday. REUTERS/Stelios Varias (UNITED STATES)

Saturday, Sept. 15, 2007, in Washington. At least 150 protesters were arrested Saturday as thousands of demonstrators marched to the Capitol demanding an end to the Iraq war. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)

[zabet]

1. Kick and Recommend n/t

[Hissyspit]

24. From AFP coverage today:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070915/ts_alt_afp/usiraqdemo_070915201330;_ylt=AguYJNrqOTGDUNKgecR5wHis0NUE

Phil Aliff, 21, marched wearing his camouflage uniform jacket as part of a group called Iraq Veterans Against the War. Aliff first arrived in Iraq in July 2006.

"I stayed there for a year, in Abu Ghraib and outside Fallujah. When we arrived, we were told we were here to bring stabilization to the country," said Aliff.

"But we were not rebuilding anything. The Iraqis had only two hours of electricity. And I saw the atrocities committed by the Americans there."

Aliff spoke days after the top US general in Iraq, David Petraeus, testified before Congress, giving an optimistic report on conditions in Iraq and the effectiveness of the US president's "surge" strategy of adding more US troops to the fight.

"General Petraeus's report is incredibly far from the reality on the ground," said Aliff.

Another marcher, Diane Santoriello, held a photograph of her 25-year-old son Neil, lost in Iraq on August 13, 2004. "I am here to get Congress to defund the war," she said.

"The vast majority of Iraqi people want the US and other foreign forces out of the country," said Brian Becker with the ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War End Racism) coalition, the group organizing the march.

"The vast majority of the people in the US want the war ended and the troops brought home now," he added.

[deepthought42]

40. Damn...so glad to see, but

so sad that we are still fighting this war...

I wish I could've been there. :patriot:

[graywarrior]

2. Any estimate as to how many were there?

[Chipper Chat]

3. NBC News with Lester Holt covered it.

However, NBC had this strange take on it:
"But, unless the people in middle-America start to do this kind of thing, these demonstrations wil have little effect" (paraphrasing)
GEE - the people in these piks look pretty middle-America to me.

[bobbolink]

8. to most "midAmerica" viewers, they don't look like themselves.

It's time to rethink strategery.

OK, that's your cue to shoot the messenger.

[Chipper Chat]

11. I just shot my GE microwave instead.

.

[babylonsister]

18. I watched that; the reporter also said there were a few thousand people there. nt

[Crabby Appleton]

19. foxnews said 5,000 anti-war, nearly 1000 pro-war nt

[rox63]

26. I was there, and I would estimate the crowd at around 100,000

Me and my friend had to pull off the march route early because we weren't feeling well. So we watched the crowd walk by for quite some time. Does anyone know if there are any aerial pictures of the crowd out there on the internets?

[RoccoR5955]

51. Crowd at demonstration

I took a picture from street level at 13st. NW, looking toward the Capitol. That's almost a mile's worth of people. The people were already at the Capitol by then. I believe that the estimate was rather conservative.
As far as Faux Noise, they would want you to believe that there 1000 anti war demonstrators, and a couple of million pro war demonstrators, but we know better!

[LaStrega]

33. Leave it to Faux News ...

5,000? Riiiiiight. Those pix sure like like hundreds of thousands ...

(P.S. Freep was down? Love that ... I just checked, it's back up and those twats are freaking *out* about today's events ... most notably the tremendous numbers.)

[L. Coyote]

35. VIDEO opening line on Faux "In NY, a stormy day on Penn. Ave...." sooo RICH

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x54545

[LaStrega]

47. yummy

[toadzilla]

37. there were MAYBE two hundred pro war people

they were a colorful bunch. quite fond of the obscenities.

[Bitwit1234]

4. Damn...thought they recruited robocops from the movies at first.

[The Traveler]

7. I was just thinking something similar

The D.C. police are garbed like a science fiction writer's vision of the storm troopers of some futuristic fascist regime.

Guess we finally caught up with science fiction, eh?

[RavensChick]

13. Yeah,

but they're trained to be as gung-ho as they can to squash any resistance. Since the protesters from rallies a few years ago were getting the shit beaten out of them by the DC police, no one wants a repeat of the drama during and certainly after the rally, so expect to see more of that at the next protest until the war is over, whenever that'll be.

[Olney Blue]

27. There's something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?

:thumbsup: My favorite movie.

[BrklynLiberal]

16. My first thought was "DARTH VADER!!!"

[Hissyspit]

5. Added More. n/t

[Kajsa]

6. Thank you, Hissyspit.

We're not going to see this on the MSM.

K&R!

:hi:

[monmouth]

9. Now I understand why the FReeper site is down. They couldn't deal

with the number from our side compared to the puny size of pro-war zealots...lol. Made my day..

[ThatsMyBarack]

10. Give VICTORY a chance??

What VICTORY? I don't think we can win anything at this point.... :eyes:

[RavensChick]

14. Not right now

but I say the more prostests the better. 15 more months of this shit with Dubya and it'll be all over but the shouting when the troops finally come home.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

53. They can't even come up with their own phucking slogans...

"All we are saaaaying, is give victory a chance...".

Have they bothered to define victory? How is it being measured? At what point will we know we are victorious?

This sign speaks volumes:



They don't care who they crush, just as long as someone is crushed.

[gateley]

12. Any comment yet on how many participated (rather than 'thousands')? K&R nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

My friend who is there called and told me at least half a million

[tavalon]

23. So about 500 of those "thousands"

I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but I fucking hate the mainstream media whores.

[INDIA]

56. It looks like over a million from some of the YouTube videos.

Good job guys! W00t!!!!!

[BrklynLiberal]

15. K&R

Ramsey Clarke...still hangin in there...

[Cha]

21. Ramsey was at the Feb15, 2003 protest

in NYC with Harry Belafonte, Danny Glover, Mos Def, Code Pink.., and hundreds of thousands of protesters who joined the millions on the rest of Planet against the Bombing of Iraq when it said "NO TO WAR!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_15,_2003_anti-war_protest

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0215-12.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0130-01.htm

Still goin' Strong!

[BrklynLiberal]

28. He is quite a man.

[rucognizant]

34. Ramsey Clark was at the Oct 26 2002 anti war rally as well!

Along with Ben Cohn of Ben& Jerry's He did some very explicit charts comparing the war expendatures to secular stuff like health care.

[Cha]

17. Ectactic, this is being

perpetuated..what bush was doing while we were being attacked on 9/11..little pissass.



Those freepwads that "want a victory" better get their collective ass signed on to the surrr-ge.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

20. Thank you Hissyspit for posting these photos....

I was I were there.

[yasmina27]

22. Is it me?

Or do those cops look like Darth Vader?

God I wish I could have been there. Dh & I were at the march in Jan., and we brought our kids to the one in March. But I'm scheduled for back surgery next Monday, and I'm sure I wouldn't have been able to handle it.

BTW, my back pain started shortly before the Jan. march, and spread down the leg the night after the march. Do you think it was caused by my anger at the *bush misadministration, or maybe the uncomfortable bed at the Comfort Suites that night?

[Hissyspit]

25. Another:

A Metropolitan Police officer (L) breaks up an argument between a counter demonstrator John Andes (R), from Johnson City, Tn, and a photographer, as antiwar protesters pass by in Washington September 15, 2007. Thousands of antiwar demonstrators took to the streets on Saturday. REUTERS/Stelios Varias (UNITED STATES)

[WillyT]

38. Hey Hissy !!! - I've Got A Video Of That Guy Here:

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x54579

A real winner.

:hi:

[Hissyspit]

43. I saw that!

He's a real winner. "Get that camera out of my face!" Um, you're in public, dickhead.

[HughBeaumont]

59. Oh wow, look, a freeper finger-pointing.

Saw a lot of that shit.

I fucking HATE freepers. Not so much before this weekend, but now, oh HELLS yeah. When you're yelling at the top of your lungs at a teenager to "meet me at the at the WALL, bitch!", FUCK that. When you're still yelling the same old goddamned "commie" "hippie" "cowards" "Hanoi Jane" "Give soap a chance" slogans that are old as the dust that falls off of them, FUCK that. And when you come to a progressive city demanding MORE of my tax dollars being burned in the PentaGONE to prolong a soldier-killing war that's doing nothing but turning a sovereign nation into a morgue and cheering for a victory that's never going to be DEFINED, much less HAPPEN, fuckity fuck FUCK that.

FREEPERS: you are a fucking pitiful disgrace to this country. You swallowed the Bewsh Koolaid with open throats and blackened hearts. Your ideology is dead and moldy. All you want to do is pretend like this world is a big fucking football game where the only goal is to WIN something, no matter what it is, no matter how good it will be for the rest of the planet. All you want is to hate someone or something because you're paranoid, bitter, resentful, curmudgeonly and pathetic. You're the most desperate, sick and twisted bunch of fucking assholes I have the utmost DISGUST of sharing a country with. You don't have my pity and you don't have my sentiments.

You're fake Americans hiding behind your house-sized flags.

You don't respect my grandfather, who gave more of a sacrifice than any of YOU have EVER given to your country. You don't respect the soldiers that are over there, because prolonging this occupation of choice will result in more maimings, dismemberment, killings, genocide and bloodshed. You don't respect the working or poor people of this country (a group which most of you are in, BTW), because this war is consuming an asston of tax dollars, as are the rich, who are using their breaks to offshore jobs and pocket the savings. You have not one goddamned CLUE as how terrorism works; otherwise, you'd understand the very ideology behind it's perpetuation is why an occupation trying to eradicate it is not only insane but patently wasteful.

We're going to change America with or without your help, fuckers.

No more bridge-building. NO more reaching out.

Your display this week was VOMITOUS. Stick your anger straight up your ugly ass. I'm not going ANYplace and neither are the thousands upon thousands of Americans who care about lifting the nation out of the toilet your kind flushed it down thanks to your undying love of fascists.

[malaise]

29. Lovely to see so many young people

Thanks Hissyspit

[sce56]

30. Those pictures looked great!

I wish I could have been there but I'm stuck on the left coast! I did manage to send $50 to IVAW to support them.

[countingbluecars]

31. Thanks for sharing!

[ToolTex]

32. Thanks for posting these. Looks like half a million to me. K&R n/t

[defendandprotect]

36. Sad and shocking that C-span didn't cover this today . . . .

[gateley]

39. Someone posted on another thread that they'll be showing it tomorrow, but

I don't have any details.

[orleans]

41. i agree. i think that was terrible. n/t

[Kurovski]

42. Kick and recommend. (nt)

[libodem]

44. Way too cool

[Iwillnevergiveup]

45. Can I just say

that guy in the photo at 25 with all his button paraphanalia looks like an overgrown, burned out freak who's making up for all the Boy Scout merit badges he never earned.

GREAT PHOTOS - THANKS! :hi:

[ClayZ]

46. BRAVO! K and R ....Patriots all!

:woohoo: :patriot: :woohoo: :patriot: :woohoo: :patriot: :woohoo:

[lame54]

48. thank you for posting these and...

a big thanks to everybody who attended

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fCutvXccFlA

[brainshrub]

49. And then the war ended.

1) Go to march.
2) Feel like you did something to end the war.
3) Watch democrats refuse to end the occupation or hold anyone accountable.
6) ???
7) Profit!!!

[Breeze54]

50. You exceeded your bandwidth but not my admiration!!

:kick: & Recommended

[Stephanie]

52. Hissy, here are some Yahoo photos since yours went missing >>>

Awesome, thanks for bringing this to our attention.


http ://news.yahoo.com/photo/070915/ids_photos_ts/r2476519177.jpg


http ://news.yahoo.com/photo/070915/ids_photos_ts/r1043623088.jpg


http: //news.yahoo.com/photo/070915/ids_photos_ts/r2575267594.jpg


http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070915/480/b6f29a5d550b46929e3c18b6faadb37a


http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070915/480/5efbc5224eb149df8f5a537f452517e6




An antiwar demonstrators stage a die in during a rally calling for an end to the war
in Iraq at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, September 15, 2007. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts
(UNITED STATES) Email Photo Print Photo

http: //news.yahoo.com/photo/070915/ids_photos_ts/r3420771849.jpg

[Hissyspit]

54. Photos are back!

Sorry 'bout that. :)

[roxnev]

55. war supporters can't spell

They misspelled oil on there sign.:hurts: Even Greenspan said it was a war for oil, and Lincoln Chafe quit the Republican party. Cry:cry: you SUV gas hog loving A$$holes.

[Name removed]

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[Middle finga]

58. Those war supporters discuss me just as much Bush does

to me thier nothing but little selfish cowardly brown shirts who should be confronted as well.

[Swamp Rat]

60. Here ya go:

[Hissyspit]

61. Monday Morning Kick

for those who may have missed them over the weekend.