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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:35 PM
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Clark: "Think another war can't happen? Think again."
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 07:45 PM by calteacherguy
Washington Post
"The Next War"
By Wesley K. Clark
Sunday, September 16, 2007

<snip>

Think the next war can't happen? Think again. Unchastened by the Iraq fiasco, hawks in Vice President Cheney's office have been pushing the use of force. It isn't hard to foresee the range of military options that policymakers face.

The next war would begin with an intense air and naval campaign. Let's say you're planning the conflict as part of the staff of the Joint Chiefs. Your list of targets isn't that long -- only a few dozen nuclear sites -- but you can't risk retaliation from Tehran. So you allow 21 days for the bombardment, to be safe; you'd aim to strike every command-and-control facility, radar site, missile site, storage site, airfield, ship and base in Iran. To prevent world oil prices from soaring, you'd have to try to protect every oil and gas rig, and the big ports and load points. You'd need to use B-2s and lots of missiles up front, plus many small amphibious task forces to take out particularly tough targets along the coast, with manned and unmanned air reconnaissance. And don't forget the Special Forces, to penetrate deep inside Iran, call in airstrikes and drag the evidence of Tehran's nuclear ambitions out into the open for a world that's understandably skeptical of U.S. assertions that yet another Gulf rogue is on the brink of getting the bomb.

But if it's clear how a war with Iran would start, it's far less clear how it would end. How might Iran strike back? Would it unleash Hezbollah cells across Europe and the Middle East, or perhaps even inside the United States? Would Tehran goad Iraq's Shiites to rise up against their U.S. occupiers? And what would we do with Iran after the bombs stopped falling? We certainly could not occupy the nation with the limited ground forces we have left. So what would it be: Iran as a chastened, more tractable government? As a chaotic failed state? Or as a hardened and embittered foe?

<snip>

Shame on political leaders who would hide behind their top generals. It was hard not to catch a whiff of that during last week's hearings. The Constitution, however, is not ambivalent about where the responsibility for command lies -- the president is the commander in chief.

<snip>

Above all else, we Americans must understand that the goal of war is to achieve a specific purpose for the nation. In this respect, the military is simply a tool of statecraft, one that must work in tandem with diplomacy, economic suasion, intelligence and other instruments of U.S. power. How tragic it is to see old men who are unwilling to talk to potential adversaries but seem ready to dispatch young people to fight and die.

So, steady as we go. We need to tweak our force structure, hone our leadership and learn everything we can about how to do everything better. But the big lesson is simply this: War is the last, last, last resort. It always brings tragedy and rarely brings glory. Take it from a general who won: The best war is the one that doesn't have to be fought, and the best military is the one capable and versatile enough to deter the next war in the first place.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/14/AR2007091401973.html
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:05 PM
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1. A military voice of reason and consideration.
The whole lot of bushco are nothing but a bunch of damn cowards.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:13 PM
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2. Hear Hear, Sir!
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:22 PM
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3. Now, let's hope someone listens to him.
And I'm thinking about Clinton.

The folks who want this won't give up just because Arbusto has left the building.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:29 PM
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4. What a GREAT line!
"How tragic it is to see old men who are unwilling to talk to potential adversaries but seem ready to dispatch young people to fight and die."

Wes is such a wise man. Too bad none of the warmongers will ever heed his advice.:( They're all too arrogant.
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:08 PM
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9. Yep, I loved that line so much....
I added it to my sig....

Kind of reminds me of one of my favorite statements from Senator George McGovern: "I'm sick and tired of old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in."

I love Wes and George both...
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:33 PM
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5. Of course another war can happen... and probably will.
And the same democrats who lined up to back the first one, will fall right into place again when they are so ordered.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:47 PM
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15. "Of course" is right..no surprises
here..the dems haven't learned anything. What's in the air, water, food, ect. inside the beltway that makes most of them act like robotic pods?
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:33 PM
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6. Let's everybody send a link to this
to our representatives. Sigh.... For all the good it will do. Still, it beats *not* doing it.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:35 PM
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7. I really do admire General Clark
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:57 PM
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8. He would make a great President, Secretary of State or Defense Secretary.
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 08:58 PM by roamer65
A voice of reason.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:11 PM
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10. thanks for the link.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:12 PM
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11.  Especially if Clinton is elected President.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:40 PM
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12. If she is you might as well leave bush in office,they are the
bobsey twins
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:44 PM
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14. This doesn't jive
with him "endorsing" her for pres. It sounds like General Clark doesn't want the bombs dropped on Iran but hillary's all about the sabre rattling. Falling in line behind the buSHIT idiots.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:07 PM
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17. Clark has concluded Clinton is going to be the nominee, imo.
Therefore, it makes sense to endorse her since that may give him a greater influence. He's a strategic thinker.
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:40 PM
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13. anyone think Clark might be in line for Hillary's VP slot? n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:49 PM
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16. Wes for Secretary of State!!!
:yourock:
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:20 AM
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18. How would it end? It ends with the American people in breadlines.
The world will kick our sorry ass. Everyone know it. We are on the edge of economic collapse anyhow. The former USofA.
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