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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:23 AM
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Birth Defects on the Rise in Polluted China
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/44333/story.htm

BEIJING - Growing numbers of Chinese children are being born with deformities due to pollution, later pregnancies and unhealthy lifestyles, state media said on Thursday quoting a medical expert.


About 1 million Chinese children were born each year with congenital heart problems, cleft palettes, nerve defects, limb abnormalities and other physical defects, director of China's National Centre for Maternity and Infant Health, Li Zhu, told the China Daily.

The number of such congenital deformities was rising and the current occurrence rate of 60 out of every 1,000 births was three times that of developed countries, Li said.
snip...
The bank study said about 460,000 Chinese died prematurely each year from water and air pollution and about 300,000 more died from indoor toxins.
more...

This is genocide of your own people
Poisoning the Earth will kill you and your future
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:25 AM
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1. What can you say?
:nopity:
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:29 AM
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3. Wow.
So a baby is born with Spina Bifida and you just can't bring yourself to care because............?

I can't think of anything nice to say about you so I'll let you explain yourself.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:38 AM
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5. Some fine Chinese people recently made the company I work for a
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 12:41 AM by The_Casual_Observer
nice offer. "We need to buy your entire factory - everything - & move to China right now!".
Go ahead & have all the compassion for the filthy greedy bastards you want. They have brought it on themselves "collectively" together, as one.

BTW, I couldn't care less what you think of me, so go ahead, insult me all you want, give it all you got.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:41 AM
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6. Well I would think that these actions are taken by the government of China and
NOT the poor citizens.

It would be like blaming my elderly next door neighbor for the horrors in Iraq.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:44 AM
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7. The whole place is a god damned virus.
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 12:45 AM by The_Casual_Observer
It's completely out of control. And we feed the monster.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:48 AM
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8. Yes but...
It is commoner that is being poisoned.

A little like our pets and god knows who else in this country.

The victims are always the grunts, worker bees, lower and middle class men.

Raging at China as an entire country is like raging at every American for the mis-steps of our foreign/trade policies.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:57 AM
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9. It's the Maoist communist system. It's billions of people
in lockstep. They're marching straight ahead we eyes wide open right over a cliff.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:02 AM
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10. So...
You don't believe that the Chinese people can think?

I think they attempted resistance at one time. Do you not remember Tianiman Square?? The population are victims of their regime.

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:09 AM
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12. Right. Lets help them along, I hear Walmart's having a sale
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 01:11 AM by The_Casual_Observer
on Reeboks, kitchen appliances & Mattel toys. Let's ease their pain.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:25 AM
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15. I don't want to get into a confrontation with you but...
You are not making any sense.

I just don't see your point.

The ordinary peoples of China (and that is a bunch of people) have no say in how they are governed. They have absolutely no responsibility over how their water,land, and air have been polluted.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:34 AM
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16. Imagine that, billions of people caged without any free will at all.
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 01:39 AM by The_Casual_Observer
Choking in their own stink day after day. In this day & age? How could this be? It's got to be the world's best kept secret. Billions of prisoners poisoning themselves & all the while making Nike's & toasters.

If it's so bad then they ought to have a revolt,god knows they know how to do it with a vengeance. To the contrary, you know as well as I do that in spite of any possible pollution or any other form of inhumanity that most of them have never had it so good.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:43 AM
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18. You have got to be kidding me???
We...who supposedly live in a democracy, *cough cough*, get to chose the course that our county is taking right now??

Are you just arguing for argument's sake?

Why don't you just go ahead and blame me, a homemaker who didn't take a loan out on her home over the past 15 years; for the subprime crisis.

Really, you need to breathe into a bag for a while.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:48 AM
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19. I'll remember all the starving people in china from now on at dinnertime, I promise.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:59 AM
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20. The sad thing about you is this...
You won't even take a look a where your statements were completely wrong.

Something like this:

"You know hang, I didn't mean to imply that the whole of the Chinese population was responsible for all of the ills on the planet".

What I meant was: "This whole trade thingy isn't what they told us it would be. It seems that all of us citizens are suffering from it in one way or another. And damnit there are people that are getting insanely rich off of the backs of all of the citizens of the world."

Otherwise you seem very rigid and incapable of admitting a mistake.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:06 AM
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21. You deal directly with them sometime too then. Then you'll see.
who is making a mistake.

Honest to god it isn't a matter of being politically correct being concerned about their doomed. They don't care enough to do anything about it.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:20 AM
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22. I was in sales for many years....
I was screwed over by a few business men that were of the Indian persuasion. I used to call them "dots".

For a couple of them I did a lot of research, and even blueprints for their start up businesses. They all screwed me over in the end and purchased their equipment from another manufacturer that was a few pennies off of my original contract offering.

I developed a hatred for Indian businessmen.

However, it does not extend to the Indian peoples as a whole. The ones who are victims of their government. Not unlike the people of China.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:02 AM
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11. I do understand your 'big picture' callousness
Honestly, I feel the same and buy (almost) nothing made in China.....

But I think you are speaking from the gut-reaction...

I know that on a 'real world' scale you would feel differently.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:15 AM
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13. Not any of the bastards I've met from their industrial delegations.
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 01:20 AM by The_Casual_Observer
It's all one fucking way, they buy up all of your means of production & so that they sell everything to you on credit terms. All you're left with is retail, service & brokering mortgages.
Although were all victims of it, I don't think that very many people actually have seen how this really works in the "real world".
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:36 AM
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17. THEIR (corporatists) kids aren't the ones w/ birth defects
The ones w/ birth defects are living in the poor areas they ie:corporatist powers dump their trash next to..... it's the same here. They are doing what we did in the early part of the 20th century.

The bottom line is that those with the least to gain have the most problems,
Those w/ the most to gain buy really nice properties AWAY from their toxins.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:27 AM
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2. Unhealthy lifestyles.
Like living in a country where 13 year old girls are sequestered to dorms and forced to work 20 hours a day making textiles soaked in formaldehyde and toys painted with lead?

And it's harming their reproductive systems and children?

Who could have seen that coming?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:33 AM
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4. exactly its just like Russia soon they won't have any population
to abuse ...

China is starting to literally just DIE

Greed greed greed
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:16 AM
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14. Child born with 7 fingers and seven toes on each hand & foot. Parents
name him Sum Ting Wong..

:hide:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:18 AM
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23. Apparently they are addressing their over-population without even planning to
This may make a bigger mark on their future population greater than the "one-child" policy.

My guess is that fertility will drop a lot too.... combined with the shortage of fertile females, they may have to insource people soon :)
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 11:30 AM
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24. kick
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