05:57 Records tracking N. Korean ship docked in Syria were altered (Haaretz)

[lovuian]

05:57 Records tracking N. Korean ship docked in Syria were altered (Haaretz)

its running on the ticker of Haaretz

http://www.haaretz.com/

:argh:

This is exactly the same BS they did forging WMD in Iraq documents the Niger docs
that Wilson exposed OMG they are doing it again

Heres the front page article link
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/903991.html

Online databases tracking a ship reportedly flying a North Korean flag that docked in Syria have changed their records following a report in The Washington Post linking the alleged Israeli air strike in Syria to a North Korean shipment.

Ronen Solomon, who searches information in the public domain for companies, told Haaretz he found references to a ship called Al Hamad on three different Web sites after the initial reports of the Israeli raid in Syria on September 6. These included the official sites of Syria's Tartous Port and the Egyptian Transportation Ministry.

Two of the three sites said the ship was flying a North Korean flag, and the third site reported it was flying a South Korean flag.

Haaretz confirmed Solomon's report.

[MidwestTransplant]

1. I read the article. I am not sure I see the parallel.

[hang a left]

2. There is so much disinfo in the news

It is treated just like intelligence.

You have intelligence and you have counter-intelligence.

Honestly, I no longer can decipher the truth.

[The Magistrate]

3. What The Article Seems To Be Saying, Sir

Is that sites, particularly an official port registry in Syria, that had prior to to the aerial incident reported the ship as North Korean, have since changed their listings to 'unknown flag'. How you work from this to a disinformation campaign to demonstrate North Korean shipments to Syria when no such occured escapes me....

[lovuian]

4. Didn't the Washington Post run this story and said North Korea

was helping to build a nuclear reactor in Syria???

Whats the Washington's post take on this

and something about now the ship was South Korea???

Sorry for my confusion

many apologies

[The Magistrate]

5. Hard To Say, Sir

The Syrian port the steamer docked and unloaded in initially described the vessel as North Korean, and delivering cement: now it says its flag was unknown.

A private registry of merchant vessels until recently listed it as flying a North Korean flag, and now does not.

An Egyptian port, where a ship of that name reportedly was docked a month ago, said it flew a South Korean flag, and now says flag unknown.

All that has been reported so far on the larger questions are claims by some in the Israeli government that they believe North Korea is exporting nuclear equipment, nature unspecified, to Syria, and nothing remotely serving as confirmation of this has yet been reported or otherwise appeared.

[Gonzo Gardener]

6. False Flag Operation and ...yawn... totally predictable.

Geeze, B*shCo can't even come up with an original way to frame the next boogieman.

:eyes:

Just last night I was pondering how Hunt Oil Corp was planning to get their oil out of Kurdish territory? I even went so far as to suggest that they might try to take it out through Turkey or Syria. The pipelines to Umm Qasr are under constant attack.

OBVIOUS PATTERN EMERGING

Nice catch and thank you lovuian!

[The Magistrate]

7. Could You Please, Ma'am, Elaborate On This 'Obvious Pattern'?

[Gonzo Gardener]

9. It would please me to do so, Sir.

First, what concerns me most are the motivations behind writing such a report. I may well be incorrect or out of line on this specific (news?) item. The word ‘obvious’ is subjective. What one sees as obvious may not be at all visible to another. I do, however, see a pattern in how news reports like this are evidence of an attempt to spoon feed people more bullshit in order to convince them that there are boogiemen in the world who we should be afraid of. I am especially skeptical about bad press aimed at any of the countries B*sh has sited as being part of his axis of evil.

The “Obvious Pattern” that I refer to in my previous post has to do with the not so coincidental flood of negative news reports that begin circulating against supposed undesirable activities of a country deemed uncooperative (Axis of Evil) by the US or Israel. The US and Israeli interests overlap so much it is, at times, hard to differentiate the two. These reports seem to coincide with the desire of the US and/or Israeli government(s) as they/it attempt to bully the uncooperative country into submission. We saw this in the months before the US attacked Iraq, and we see it being used with Iran. Furthermore, if the US or Israel can use these negative reports from media outlets along with so called intelligence to paint a targeted country in an unfavorable enough light prior to a preemptive strike that act may appear just.

It is extremely convenient for Syria to be seen as a bad, naughty boy, er….I mean, country at this time for the US and Israel. Check this… it’s all about leverage.



Ex-UN envoy: IAF action in Syria is 'message to Iran' over nukes

By Barak Ravid, Avi Issacharoff and Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondents, Haaretz Service and News Agencies 

Former United Nations ambassador John Bolton said Sunday that Israel's reported military operation inside Syria earlier this month should be regarded as a 'clear message to Iran' that its nuclear efforts will not be ignored by the international community.

"I think it would be unusual for Israel to conduct a military operation inside Syria other than for a very high value target, and certainly a Syrian effort in the nuclear weapons area would qualify," Bolton told Channel 10 in an interview broadcast Sunday.

"I think this is a clear message not only to Syria, I think it's a clear message to Iran as well, that its continued efforts to acquire nuclear weapons are not going to go unanswered," Bolton said


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/903949.html

Dick Cheney would love to bomb the hell out of Iran right this instant but I think Russia and/or China have got Ahmadinejad's back and Dick knows it. There would be serious repercussions for the US but not so much if we decided to mess with Syria.

[lovuian]

10. Oh thats downright illuminating Meanie

and is one helluva pattern

[The Magistrate]

11. What Interests Me In This Particular Report, Ma'am

Is the claim that evidence of some connection between this ship and North Korea was removed from sites after the Israeli Air Force action began to be widely discussed, most noteably by the government of Syria. This is something that could be taken as reflecting guilty knowledge, through the hiding of evidence, though it could just as easily reflect a desire to lessen the chance of something being taken in a bad light that really was not justified. For the fact of the vessel having North Korean registry is meaningless, unless it can be demonstrated that it set out for Syria from a North Korean port, or took on cargo somewhere recently from a vessel that had loaded at a North Korean port. Without such a showing, there is no solid reason to suppose this vessel's docking in Syria has any real relation to the air attack, or even to the claim North Korea is supplying Syria with some unspecified nuclear technology. The scrubbing of records is the nearest thing to an indication there might be such a connection, weak as it is.

Bolton is in no position now to have any particular inside information on these events, and his words on the subject cannot be taken for more than his own speculation, which will be in turn no more than his own hopes and desires. That he desires military action against Iran is a given. There is a pressing and actual Israeli interest in a small scale air strike in Syria, and that is the well-known passage through Syria of arms from Iran to Hezbollah in Lebanon. A shipment of missiles capable of striking deep into Israel from beyond the zone in southern Lebanon now occupied by the U.N. force would certainly be a target the Israeli government would consider worth striking in Syria, while it was still packed, so to speak. Knowledge precise enough about such a shipment to enable such an attack could only be the result of some flaw in the security arrangements of those conducting the traffic, and so some official obfuscation about the event, extending to 'legends' wholly un-related to what really occured, would be a natural enough development. Since one expected means for Iran to strike back should it be attacked either by the United States or Israel is the activation of Hezbollah for another round of missile attacks on Israel, this could indeed serve as a sort of warning to the government of Iran, that it might not get quite so much effectiveness out of this avenue of retaliation as it would like.

[lovuian]

8. Now the front page is going with the original story

Nuclear facility built with help from North Korea

I'm so confused with this story ...