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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:42 PM
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Syria: "They didn’t bomb anything"
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 12:55 PM by Flabbergasted
http://www.syria-news.com/readenews.php?sy_seq=61994

NEWSWEEK: We’re told the target was in a place called Dayr az Zawr.

Imad Moustapha: No, Dayr az Zawr is a major city; it was not targeted. The Israeli planes threw their ammunition close to Dayr az Zawr, but outside Dayr az Zawr, and then they made a U-turn and threw their reserve fuel tanks. And because they were flying above the Syria-Turkish border, they threw those on the Turkish side of the border. Nothing was damaged.



What were they bombing?

They didn’t bomb anything. Once they were spotted by our defense systems and we started attacking them, they threw their ammunition because this makes them lighter. And they threw their additional fuel tanks, which were not empty by the way, and they made a U-turn and they left. You’ve got to understand, they were flying in the extreme northern part of Syria, on the Syrian-Turkish border.



How many bombs fell and what did they fall on?

They didn’t hit anything. They just fell on wasteland.

So no casualties?

No, nothing.



No physical damage to structures?

No. Just on the ground. And Turkey protested about the two fuel tanks that fell on the Turkish side.



There have been reports, unsubstantiated at present, that what was targeted was some kind of nuclear North Korean-Syrian cooperation project.

Those reports are absolutely, totally, fundamentally ridiculous and untrue. There are no nuclear North Korean-Syrian facilities whatsoever in Syria … We know the game. some were claiming that Saddam’s WMDs were being smuggled to Syria. This is not a new story. Every now and then we hear about nuclear materials being transferred to Syria.





What is the relationship between North Korea and Syria right now? It was noticed that North Korea immediately issued a strong and public denunciation of the Israeli attack, which seemed a bit unusual, given that North Korea is thousands of miles away.

People here can be very selective. The Lebanese government made such an announcement, Turkey made such an announcement, Indonesia made such an announcement. North Korea has very few friends around the world, and we have friendly relations with North Korea.



Do you have trade relations?

Very little actual relations … is real. We’re not denying it. There’s nothing to hide.



Also a trade in missiles, in the past anyway. Scuds.

I’m not privy to military details. I leave that to military experts to discuss. What I am saying is the following: There is nothing sinister. To talk about a Syrian-North Korean nuclear plant is really, really sad, because it reminds me of the sort of stories that used to be fabricated here in the United States before the Iraq war, about Iraq’s WMDs and such things. You would think America has learned its lesson, that it won’t buy such stories anymore. And then you are astonished when you see mainstream outlets publishing such stories. Such short-term memory for the American media.

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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:44 PM
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1. So, wait
First, the Syrians claimed the Israelis came over to bomb Syria for apparently no good reason. They were going to take it to the UNSC. Now that people are saying Israel hit some kind of nuclear site, suddenly Syria claims nothing really happened. One of these stories has got to be false.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:45 PM
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2. No you got it wrong.
Syria never ever claimed anything was bombed. Israel did that days after the event.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:53 PM
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5. Israel refuses to say a word about it.
"In Israel, the double blackout is still in effect: Both the official and unofficial establishment is chary of releasing any reference or bit of information about what happened in the skies over northern Syria in the dawn hours of September 6. On top of this, there is the army censor, which blocks publication of any information on the affair. "

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/904009.html




and the alleged weapons came in by ship. some reports claim the ship had N. Korea flags, some claim S. Korea flags, some claim no flags/unknown origin.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/903955.html
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:46 PM
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3. I'm afraid I'm at the stage that I don't believe much
Coming from either side, but there's a small weight of belief on the Syrians.........
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:53 PM
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6. Take this into account...
The initial news story was of an invasion of airspace. There was never any mention at all of an attack or bombing. And then days after the event it was a nuclear site that was bombed and it was a massive attack. And suddenly NK and Syria have nuclear ties, and are after Isreal with a WMD but (won't use the term WMD.)

If Israel had actually bombed a structure in Syria you can bet with full assurance that this would have been all over the news and Syria would be raising bloody hell.

This is propaganda.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 01:19 PM
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16. Why would Syria admit it had a nuclear cache?? Don't think so. imho nt
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:47 PM
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4. Oh, okay
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 12:47 PM by rockymountaindem
You're right. I should have read the OP more closely.

Supposed to be a reply to post two. Whoops.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:05 PM
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7. Something was bombed and caught fire
"At a rendezvous point on the ground, a Shaldag air force commando team was waiting to direct their laser beams at the target for the approaching jets. The team had arrived a day earlier, taking up position near a large underground depot. Soon the bunkers were in flames."

and...

"This weekend President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran sent Ali Akbar Mehrabian, his nephew, to Syria to assess the damage. The new “axis of evil” may have lost one of its spokes."

bunkers in flames and damage assessment don't add up to munitions unloading for weight loss. And Israel had special ops on the ground at the time of the raid.

link to the sunday times: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2461421.ece
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:11 PM
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10. This reminds me of the false intelligence that ran up to the attack on Iraq
The story of NK and Syrian cooperation is rediculous at best IMO.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:13 PM
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I agree, but was there a bombing or not????
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:15 PM
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12. I find it really hard to believe that if there was a bombing that there wasn't some kind of
indication of the "bombing" in the media immediately. This happened a week ago.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:20 PM
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13. so is this propaganda aimed to justify an attack on Syria?
by the US and/or Israel?
and then to Iran?
or is it meant to intimidate and provoke Syria/Iran?
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:27 PM
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14. IMO potentially either one or nothing may come out of it.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:07 PM
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8. The one thing that is known is that Israel violated Syria
airspace
One must wonder why

Israel has said it believes North Korea has given nuclear material to Syria
thats their justification for entering their airspace

Germany has confirmed the violation for the UN
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:13 PM
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11. Provocation and to test air defense is my best guess.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:09 PM
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9. yea sure... i got a bridge you can buy cheep in the syrian desert too
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 01:09 PM by sam sarrha
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:27 PM
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15. Do you believe a military target was bombed?
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