The MSM worked overtime showing that the marches yesterday were NOT a success

[Horse with no Name]

There was ONE thing they got absolutely wrong.
EVERY person marching yesterday was for the troops.
The issue at hand was "Pro-War" and "Anti-War".
It's the abortion debate redux.
By labeling them as "Pro-Troops" it lends one to think everyone else is "Anti-Troops"...since that is the proper antithetical.
Once again the MSM carries Bush's water.

[truedelphi]

1. Had not thought about that. You are correct.

[annabanana]

2. Yes.

That is exactly what they did. The longer to confuse and disinform the people.

[otohara]

3. Protest Fatigue

besides, nothing is going to change until those lunatics and liars are gone and a democrat comes in.

[daninthemoon]

4. The little coverage I've seen has been very discouraging, and

slanted. The msm would have us believe there were as many pro war as anti. Orwellian.

[BelgianMadCow]

13. Indeed, even in the MTP Kerry-McCain debate

they showed the protest :
Antiwar : filmed from within the crowd, you saw about 15 people in the shot. Posts with pics on DU were WAY better to show the demonstration.
Pro-war : they just showed a row of american flags from real close. Looking at the pics on DU, this was from a single small file of counterprotestors.

SLANTED indeed!!

[EV_Ares]

5. Yes, the MSM is in the pocket of the republicans. Should be no

surprise as they are now mostly corporate owned which goes republican. However, why are'nt the dems working on busting up some of these corporate owned newspapers and media. For example, not a peep out of Murdoch buying the Wall Street Journal to add to his collection which will go hand in hand with his new cable business channel to compete with CNBC. Several of the WSJ staff have already left to his delight so he can get the replacements he wants.

[never_get_over_it]

6. And that is the exact box

the Congressional repunks are trying to paint the Congressional Dems into - if you cut off funding you're anti troops - which EXCUSE me I have to say wanting to bring them home ALIVE and ASAP seems pretty pro troop to me.... I am so sick of this shit

Oh and on edit the Congressional Dems (most of them) are falling for it hook line and sinker - instead of taking a stand and EXPLAINING their position - they are scared shitless - talk about battered wife syndrome....

[AndyTiedye]

8. Explaining Their Position How? In What Forum? Who Will Ever Hear the Explanation? CSPAN Viewers?

instead of taking a stand and EXPLAINING their position

That's what sucks the most about the other side owning the media.
You don't get to explain anything. Even if you are a Congressman.

Of course the Democrats are scared of Bush** and the Mighty Slime Machine.
They have every reason to be.

[never_get_over_it]

9. Oh you're 100% right

I'm not saying its easy but to me they have to find a way - much better than cowing to these freaks - you know there comes a time when you have to stand up to the bullies....and I think we passed that time LONG AGO....I said in another post - the Dems either have battered wife syndrome - are being threatened in some way - or just plain in on it - because for the life of me I just don't get why they DON'T STAND UP....

If you haven't seen this and have the time take a look at it especially the comments made by Representatives Lyn Woolsey and Jim Moran - it is VERY INTERESTING and goes right to this standing up issue

http://www.spiritualprogressives.org/article.php?story=20070907191110516

[AndyTiedye]

10. Being Threatened, For Sure. Any of them Could be Wellstoned

When they caved in on FISA, that left no doubt in my mind that Bush** has made them an offer they can't refuse.
Why else would they approve a measure that allows Bush** to spy on them without oversight throughout the 2008 elections?
Legalized Watergate. They would not be "in on" their own defeat except under very severe duress.

There is always the possibility of NSA blackmail, but even that would not explain the FISA cave-in.
It is likely their lives have been threatened — threats which are quite credible given the fate of Mel Carnahan and Paul Wellstone, and the anthrax that could have killed several others.
Any serious opposition, like impeachment, would be met by a "terra attack" and all those nice emergency powers Bush** has given himself. Martial law. Game over.



I don't buy the Naderite "no-difference-between-the-parties" line. Compare 8 years of Clinton with 7 years of Bush**.
Seems like a pretty big difference to me.

[never_get_over_it]

11. By in on it I mean

maybe some of the Dems are in on the whole big "corporate" plan - the stay in Iraq forever - PNAC kind of vision - the empire you know - not in on their election defeat - there has to be something going on otherwise a lot of the Dems actions since they took control of the Senate just plain do not make sense....

[AndyTiedye]

12. That Would Not Explain the FISA Cave-In

[superkia]

7. They are very good at what they do.

Look how they ignored Dennis Kucinich and his message and has most Americans, (if they even know who he is) classifying him as unelectable? They are slick, lots of Americans aren't bright enough to see through why they do certain things.