Fox censors Sally Field’s anti-war speech at Emmy’s

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

Thinkprogress has the YouTube and conclusive evidence, here:


http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/16/fox-censors-sally-fields-anti-war-speech-at-emmys/

[ronnykmarshall]

1. No ..................

The whole show the sound kept cutting out. Put the tin foil away.

[Neecy]

2. Gee...

The sound didn't cut off during her comments on CTV's broadcast. Interesting that the 'technical' problems happened in the US but not in Canada...

[ronnykmarshall]

6. Well sorry ...

but it's not some big ass KKKarl thang.

The audio was fucking up all night.

My aunt has the east coast feed and she said it was a mess all night.

Sorry kids, but chill out with the tin foil.

[EstimatedProphet]

73. Maybe that's because it was a different network

Just sayin'

[Longhorn]

4. The sound wasn't cutting out.

Three times they cut to a prerecorded scene with no sound. I'm sure the show was being broadcast on a delay.

[ronnykmarshall]

11. Oh really?

What are you watching?

I heard it cut out from the very start. Even on the commercials.

[Longhorn]

19. The sound didn't cut out on the commercials at my house.

But when it cut out the three times during the show that I mentioned, they went to a different camera angle, a shot from up high looking down on an empty auditorium. In other words, it appeared to be a prerecorded shot to be used whenever they decided to cut away from what was happening on the stage. I believe all live shows do this now: broadcast on a delay so there are no more "Janet Jackson" or "Kanye West" moments.

Since it has been reported that Sally Field used the word, "goddamn," I suspect that's why she was bleeped. I don't know why Ray Ramano was bleeped. :shrug:

[ronnykmarshall]

22. Ramano wasn't bleeped

The audio was just fucked up.

[Longhorn]

30. From an AP article in the Austin American-Statesman:

"The usually staid awards needed attention from the censors from the start, with first presenter Ray Romano. He joked about his former "Everybody Loves Raymond" wife, Patricia Heaton, sleeping with her new "Back to You" co-star Kelsey Grammer.

But he used a stronger word, which prompted Fox to black out the show for a few seconds. Heigl mouthed another expletive, which Fox unsuccessfully tried to evade with a different camera shot."

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/TV/TV_Emmys.html

[Mike Daniels]

66. The comments that were frozen out were due to "swear words"

Field apparently used the word "God-damned" in conjunction with her comments and that's why it was frozen. Ray Romano (hardly someone people connect with political statements) and Katherine Heigl were frozen out as well for a few seconds for the same reason.

People discuss the war every day on the news. I find it hard to accept that they're going to bleep out war comments when the general populace is opposed to the bloody thing by now.

Too bad they didn't freeze out Seacrest's entire presence which in my opinion was the really offensive thing about the production.

[tabasco]

7. Wrong Ronny.

The show was taped. LA Times reported Fox did censor the replay for US consumption.

Interesting how you rushed to Fox defense, however.

[ronnykmarshall]

10. Bullshit ...

My aunt watched the east coast feed and the audio cut out on the live feed.

It's not some right wing plot.

[Horse with no Name]

15. It was bleeped here

an actual bleep.

[johnnie]

17. I watched it too

Seriously, they not only cut the sound they cut the camera on her at the same time. If it was just the sound that would be one thing, but cutting her off camera at the same time seemed a bit too convenient.

[Neecy]

18. nothing is 'live' these days

Almost all networks broadcast 'live' television with a three or five second delay. This is to allow them to, yes, bleep or cut anything.

And I don't believe there was a technical problem during the end of Field's comments. At the time the sound went out the camera angle changed, and as soon as she stopped speaking you could clearly hear very loud applause from the audience. Maybe the sound goes out but the camera doesn't veer wildly at the same time unless they don't want us lip-reading.

It's not tin-foil - Canada got to hear her remarks uncensored, and we didn't. Thanks, Fox, for all of our 'freedom'.

[ronnykmarshall]

21. Yeah .... the all powerfull "KKKarl"

:eyes:

[Neecy]

23. excuse me...

I never mentioned Rove...you're the only one who has, several times now in fact.

I'm glad you have such faith in Fox...good luck with that.

[ronnykmarshall]

27. Oh how nice ...

Yeah have "so much faith in fox" .... what a crock of shit.


WOW! My cover is blown. I'm really a straight gay bashing republican.

:eyes:

[0007]

62. You have some big time problems sonny! Ya better get checked out sooner

rather than later.

[SidDithers]

69. Sorry, sweetie-darling...

you've been outed in a whole different kind of way. Back to freeperland with you!
:sarcasm:

Cheers.

Sid

[tabasco]

24. Wrong Ronny.

http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2007/09/the-emmys-reall.html

Stubbornness is usually a sign of stupidity.

[Neecy]

26. AP is also reporting she was censored

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/09/16/entertainment/e203452D88.DTL

[ronnykmarshall]

28. Oh so I'm also STUPID now?

God. What a line of shit.

[TahitiNut]

75. Yep. Apparently so.

Rude, too. :shrug:

[zonkers]

54. You bleep someone, you give them power. Good on ya, Sally. And let me say, you look marvelous.

[truebrit71]

68. Fox censored the show in the US. No conspiracy. simple fact.

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[mark414]

29. it wasn't the sound cutting out, the censors were busy all night

there were more instances than just sally field's speech, though none of the other cuts were politically related.

the reason for the cut from Field was because she said 'goddamn.'

so you're half right.

[MessiahRp]

38. Apparently you didn't watch the show.

The sound was cut and they cut to a pre-show quiet shot everytime they censored someone. They did the same to Ray Romano and others throughout the night.

This was clearly FOX censoring Sally Fields' anti-war comment.

Rp

[TahitiNut]

39. SJMN: "Ray Romano, Heigl, Field keep Emmy censors on their toes"

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_6913793

Funny how often the more arrogant, self-assured opinions turn out to be just plain wrong, huh?

:eyes:

[peekaloo]

74. I thought it was funny when Heigl won nd they cut to her in the audience.

She clearly said "shit" but wasn't miked and they still killed the audio. :rofl:

p.s. I can't get the link to load so if this is mentioned my apologies. :-)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

40. Click

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1823477

[Singular73]

3. Bullshit

They cut it on purpose...outrageous.

Welcome to corporate American Fascism...

[ronnykmarshall]

8. Bullshit is right.

It happened all night.

Not just during Sally's speech.

But that won't stop the grassy knoll people from throwing a shit fit.

[Subdivisions]

33. ...

http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2007/09/field-on-being-.html

[TahitiNut]

42. You insult others and it turns out you're just plain wrong. Funny 'bout that.

"Ray Romano, Heigl, Field keep Emmy censors on their toes"
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_6913793

LOS ANGELES—The Emmy censors were bleeping busy on Sunday night as three actors slipped in expletives during the live broadcast.

Ray Romano joked about his former "Everybody Loves Raymond" wife, Patricia Heaton, sleeping with her new "Back to You" co-star Kelsey Grammer. But he used a stronger word than "sleeping," which prompted Fox to cut away for a few seconds.

"Shame on you. We have TV children!" Romano said to Heaton, who was sitting in the audience.

Immediately after delivering his routine early in the show, Romano, wearing dark glasses, headed out the back door.

Sally Field praised mothers when she won an Emmy for lead actress in a drama series but also let her anti-war sentiments surface with a God-related swear word.

"And, let's face it, if the mothers ruled the war, there would be no (expletive) wars in the first place," Field said.

______________________________________


Why don't you think about apologizing to those who you've demeaned and insulted?

Hmmmmm?

:eyes:

[WinkyDink]

50. The A/P is on the grassy knoll?

[JDPriestly]

14. Her words will get more attention this way. Thank you, YouTube and equivalents.

[MonkeyFunk]

45. so what?

was her speech aired? They cut out a "goddamned" - which they've been doing since before I was a kid.

Her message got out, nobody was left wondering what she said.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

46. No, it didn't get out. They censored her when she started to say goddamned and the rest of what she

said right afterwards. Not a bleep. They Cut the sound and then pulled the camera away to what looked like a place on the ceiling of the theater. That matters to me. That is called censorship. You might not mind it but I certainly do.

[MonkeyFunk]

47. well

actually, it's not censorship.

Censorship is the government preventing people from saying something. Nothing compels a TV network to air something.

From the clip I saw, she was clearly making an anti-war statement - I don't know how much was cut after the "goddamn", but it was very clear she was speaking out against war prior to that point.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

48. Last time I looked, it seemed that Fox is part of the government propaganda bureau.

Somehow I knew that it would bother you....

[MonkeyFunk]

49. Well

you're wrong. Fox is not a government agency.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

51. Which gives it the ability to spread the propaganda for the government and censor what they

don't want the public to hear. And you confirm to me even more you couldn't care less.

[MonkeyFunk]

60. This isn't about me

I don't know why you want to make it so.

"Goddamn" has been bleeped from broadcast TV for decades. There are some exceptions nowadays in late-night adult dramas, but it's never been allowed during "family hour" or on family programming.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

63. No, no, no. Goddamned could have been bleeped but they censored the rest of what she said. That's

the point. I am convinced as many others are that it was because of the politics and that's how it is playing in Peoria this morning. So far, every report I have heard was that it was censored not because of her saying goddamned but because it was an anti-war statement.

[Mike Daniels]

67. And yet somehow the anti-war protests were still covered in the paper

Somehow, I would think the government would be more interested in banning stories of protests from the news vs. the comments of an actress who appears for a few seconds on an award show.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

70. Oh come on. We're talking about Fox and please, no reason to keep this discourse

up unless you enjoy talking to yourself. You're becoming plain silly.

[MonkeyFunk]

71. There were 3 or 4 more words following "goddamned"

and her time was already up - the music was blaring at that point.

Look, I love Sally Field, and I'm glad she said what she said. I certainly got the meaning of it, as did anybody else watching. But if she hadn't used "goddamned", I bet it wouldn't been covered in its entirety (and if she did't forget what she was going to say and blather for 15 seconds, letting her time run out.)

[Tesha]

61. A lot of DUers still seem to have a lot to learn.

And that's a real shame for the rest of us.

Tesha

[derby378]

5. FOX should never televise the Emmys again

This is beyond shameful.

[ronnykmarshall]

9. They shouldn't

just because it was boring as fuck.

La Seacrest was BORING!!!

[derby378]

12. Maybe Stephen Colbert should host it next year?

I mean, Jon Stewart's already got dibs on the Oscars next year...

[ronnykmarshall]

16. He's gonna be great at the Oscars.

[KharmaTrain]

52. Uh...That's Jon Stewart Hosting The Oscars

Just sayin'...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

13. Did I see what I think I saw? When the camera went back on her, it was high up and pulling away.

Did I see people giving her a standing ovation???

[Longhorn]

20. They were certainly cheering loudly! nt

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

25. I think you're right

[KingFlorez]

31. It wasn't censored

There were errors all through the show, it cut away several times. It's inaccurate to portray this as some politically motivated stunt.

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

34. You "Bleep" a word

You don't cut away entirely.

[Longhorn]

35. It was censored but not necessarily for political reasons.

She and Ray Ramano were both censored because of language, at least as reported by the AP and other sources. (See above posts.)

[LeFleur1]

72. God Damned War

You don't think God has damned this war?

[onenote]

36. I think it had as much to do with her saying "god damn" as anything that followed

it is one of the no-nos according to the standards and practices folks at all of the networks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/18/arts/television/18ROBS.html?ex=1247889600&en=ff12c3a795235ba8&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

[KingFlorez]

37. I hadn't seen that article when I posted

[MessiahRp]

41. They could have done the one second mute on God Damn....

They chose to keep war out. This is FOX... you know the same network that was the ONLY one NOT to air the Democratic response to Bush's propaganda "Stay the Course on the Surge" speech the other night.

Rp

[KingFlorez]

43. They used the same method to censor other things

Katherine Heigl from Grey's Anatomy mouthed a bad word and they cut away the exact same way, they are so did it when Ray Romano cursed. This is not some political conspiracy.

[goodgd_yall]

32. It was censored

I mean, what a coincidence, if it was technical difficulties, that the sound dropped no where else in her speech until she said "...god-damned wars."

It's a Fox station; why is this so hard to believe?!

[snot]

44. Censored. Stupid. Like we're not going to guess what she said. nt

[KharmaTrain]

53. It Was Equipment Overload...

The Faux equipment can't handle all those "hollywierd libruls" all in one place at one time...it was just too much for the Murdocitron-69 to handle. Everything will be just fine for the next American Idol broadcast.

Faux = :puke:

[Gravel2008]

55. Well, she was wrong anyways, so no big loss

Lots of mothers support war, and lots of ruling mothers have sent their citizens to war - all the way from Cleopatra to Margaret Thatcher. Hell, we even have mothers joining the armed services now, which they wouldn't do if they didn't in some ways support war. To think things would change at all if only mothers - or women in general - "ruled" the world is naïve.

[killbotfactory]

56. Revoke their broadcasting license

The public airwaves shouldn't be abused in such a way.

[tomreedtoon]

77. They HAVE no broadcasting license. They are a NETWORK.

They provide a program service. It's their affiliates - most of which are owned by other corporations, NOT Rupert Murdock - that have the licenses.

And for those guys to be called on the carpet for what the Fox Network did would require an FCC and an FTC and a government that wanted honest broadcasting. We haven't had that since Saint Ronald Reagan got rid of the Fairness Doctrine and station ownership limits and a whole bunch of other rules that aren't sexy enough to get your attention.

If a Democratic candidate had the nerve to say "I want to make broadcasters responsible to the public again," I'd be willing to bear his or her children. Or, well, maybe I could breast-feed them...I am kind of a chubby guy.

[Skittles]

57. strange how soldiers are "fighting for our freedom"

yet they sensor freedom of speech

[w8liftinglady]

58. and NBC is covering as such this morning-censoring

they had a nice interview with sally and let her say her piece.She said next time,she'll make it a point to speak louder.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

59. I believe the Today Show is going to cover it too. eom

[11 Bravo]

64. The FCC ruled specifically in 2004 that "God damn" is NOT obscene.

With that in mind, what rationale is left for bleeping her other than an objection to the political content of her statement? And that, my friends, is censorship.

[Liberal In Texas]

76. With the current of heavy fines, broadcasters aren't taking any chances. She was censored for GD,

not political content. She was on a rant, lost her train of thought, was obviously going long, they started the music, and when she blurted out the GD stuff, she got censored:

"At the heart of Nora Walker, she is a mother," Field said on starge. “May they be seen, may their work be valued and raised, and to especially the mothers who stand with an open heart and wait – wait for their children to come home for from danger, from harm’s way and from war. I’m not finished. I have to finish talking … if the mothers ruled the world there would be no goddamn wars in the first place."

[wicket]

65. wow

:wow: