Attack of the Flying Nun

[H2O Man]

"Surely this belongs to all the mothers of the world. May they be seen, may their work be valued and raised. Especially to the mothers who stand with an open heart and wait. Wait for their children to come home from danger, from harm’s way, and from war. I am proud to be one of those women. If mothers ruled the world, there would be no god-damn wars in the first place." – Sally Fields

The Flying Nun joining the growing list of American citizens that we need to stop listening to last night. If only the House Judiciary Committee could go back to a time before the Committee on Internal Security, and once again become that fox guarding the hen house, the House Un-American Activities Committee, we might sleep better as a nation.

Instead, we have Flying Nuns, MoveOn.org, and Code Pink causing trouble. I knew it would come to this when they refused to put Cindy Sheehan in jail for questioning the president, which should be illegal in any democracy. I’m not prone to conspiracies, unless they meet some inner need of mine, but I think that the answer is that Cindy Sheehan found a vulnerable Sally Fields, and took advantage of her.

Proof of this is found in "Values Matter Most," Ben Wattenberg’s 1995 warning to America that both democrats and republicans needed to embrace the doctrine of neoconservatism, that we might survive as a nation. Ben had gone from working for LBJ to Hubert Humphrey to "Scoop" Jackson.

On pages 5 to 6, he explains why he could not vote for George McGovern in 1972: the democratic candidate "preached ‘Come Home America’ while there was still an evil empire out there." In a 2006 essay, Ben attacked John Kerry for comparing Iraq to Vietnam, and explained how despite losers like Kerry losing the war in ‘Nam, Uncle Sam defeated the evil empire.

Ben also exposes the continuing threat of the democrats: "In the 1980s most liberals refused to see the Soviet hand in Central America. Speaker Tip O’Neill was against helping the Contras in Nicaragua because (he said) he had always taken guidance from the Maryknoll Sisters (by then a very radical organization), and because he remembered that, fifty years earlier, a friend had told him that the United Fruit Company had exploited the peasants in Central America."

Thanks, Ben. Not only was Tip O’Neill slandering United Fruit, but we need to be aware of the threat posed to democracy by radicals like Maura Clarke, Ita Ford, Jean Donovan, and Dorothy Kazal. These four Maryknoll sisters were brutally raped, tortured, and murdered by the El Salvador death squads trained by the Reagan administration to deliver democracy to Central America..

While many of Ben’s buddies from those "Scoop" Jackson days joined the republican party in the Reagan era, he bravely remained a democrat. I’m confident that he did it for all the right reasons. Though he has been closely associated with Paul Wolfowitz, Newt Gingrich, John Bolton, Lynn Cheney and Fred Thompson at the American Enterprise Institute, he only wants what is best for the democratic party.

Dare we ignore his warning? Isn’t it obvious that Cindy Sheehan is a Maryknoll sister, and that she has indoctrinated the once pure Flying Nun with her liberation theology? As democrats, we need to reject Sally Fields – she will embarrass the party with her unpatriotic calls for peace. We will pay a heavy price in the 2008 elections if we are associated with such nonsense.

[malaise]

1. Great post H2O Man

Bravo Sally Field.

[H2O Man]

8. There is a problem

when people feel the need to censor the Flying Nun.

[malaise]

12. A serious problem

I can't take much more of this. Today the usual assholes will speak about the importance of the Constitution while tearing it up in practice.

[babylonsister]

15. You made me chuckle!

Nice piece, H20 Man! :thumbsup: :D

[H2O Man]

19. Thank you.

Sometimes we do well to chuckle when we get a glimpse of the world as the Fox audience views it.

[mopinko]

45. laugh or cry

our only choices these days.

[Tyler Durden]

81. GIDGET HATES 'MURICA! NOW IT CAN BE TOLD!!!!

Not really.

LORD what fools these mortals be.

[Horse with no Name]

20. It pisses me off to no end

I am so weary of the RW minions.

[H2O Man]

42. The news is

reporting that Fox was not only concerned that people would hear Sally Fields, and hence the sound was cut -- but more, they worry that lip-readers would be offended, so they cut away from her with the camera.

There is also a guy saying it really was Ms. Fields' "fault," because she was "so clumsy" in her choice of words.

It is unreal some of the time.

[Horse with no Name]

58. Let's not kid ourselves

These people would censor Jesus if they actually took time to read the Bible.

[H2O Man]

59. They have

censored him. Sad but true.

[Cobalt-60]

77. Sister Bertrille was just too tough for them

I think that was the Flying Nun's name, anyway,

[papau]

22. Amen to that thought n/t

n/t

[orleans]

60. it's a bird, it's a plane, it's sally field and we can't let american hear what she's gonna say!!!

[ashling]

2. Flying nuns can be so annoying

Have you ever been attacked by a swarm of those things? :)




BTW, good post.:hi:

[H2O Man]

11. Few things are

more upsetting that seeing a flock of Flying Nuns speaking on cell phones while they fly.

[DemReadingDU]

30. Too funny

:rofl:

Good Posting!

[understandinglife]

61. ROFL!!

:hi:

Great post .......

[Javaman]

43. They keep flying into the windows of my house! nt

[bluescribbler]

83. I smell a DUZY this week for this thread

:rofl: :spray: :kick: :applause: :yourock:

[midnight]

3. Wonderful job pulling together all the pieces of bad policy and

showing why. I had never heard about Ben until reading your post. If mother's ruled the world their would be no G.D. war. I wonder how many folks were watching?

[H2O Man]

7. Ben and Joe Lieberman

are keeping the nation safer in the war of ideas. And, no, I did not make that up:

http://lieberman.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=224255


Lieberman Launches “Committee on the Present Danger” to Fight War of Ideas Against Terrorism

Senator to serve as honorary co-chairman of non-partisan citizens group first formed in 1950 to fight Communism

WASHINGTON - Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT) today joined with Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) and former CIA Director Jim Woosley in launching the “Committee on the Present Danger,” a non-partisan organization of prominent national security experts dedicated to wage a “war of ideas” against Al Qaeda and Islamist terrorists worldwide. ...

This is the third time the Committee has formed. In 1950, it was organized to raise awareness of the threat posed by Soviet communism, and in 1976 it was revitalized by Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA) to oppose Soviet expansion and support larger defense budgets.

According to its mission statement, the Committee on the Present Danger aims to “educate the American people about the threat posed by a global Islamist terror movement; to counsel against appeasement and accommodation with terrorists; and to build support for a strategy of decisive victory against this menace not only to the United States, but to democracy and freedom everywhere.” Its members include the Hon. David McCurdy and Hon. Steve Solarz, former Democratic Congressmen; the Hon. Newt Gingrich and the Hon. Jack Kemp, former Republican Congressmen; Hon. Jeane Kirkpatrick, former ambassador to the United Nations; Ben Wattenberg, Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute; and the Hon. Max Kampelman, former ambassador and counselor at the State Department.

[Me.]

14. Joe Lieberman, New Democrat

Having switched his party affiliation from I, protecting our democratic values! Thank God he's come home!

[H2O Man]

21. It is important

that we put this in the proper context: it was just last week that our fearless leader announced plans for a never-ending occupation of Iraq, and noted that this is something that both sides can surge to agree upon. Senator Lieberman was proof of that joyful surge of bi-partisanship. Then this Flying Nun violates the air space of the National Trust.

Dare we risk offending Senator Surge Lieberman this way? Come on, folks! We have to think of how people will view us!

[Me.]

31. Next Thing You Know She'll Be 'Flying' For Office

Gidget goes after the midget

[Rex]

54. Well there ya go right there

'...support larger defense budgets'. All that needs to be said. Just business as usual folks, making money off death and hatred. Thanks again Joe.

[peacetalksforall]

66. When I read your words I got an image of Sally in costume with a

little round money purse held close to her chest as she peers into it and doles out the budget for Halliburton and their friends in the Pentagon and Congress.

[peacetalksforall]

69. Maybe we should elect her and let her take back OUR air waves.

[watrwefitinfor]

4. With all due respect, Waterman,

:hi: (and much is due)

Nevermind the Flying Nun.

Norma Rae Lives!

Wat.

[H2O Man]

18. Norma Rae

My type of democrat!

[SalmonChantedEvening]

5. Viva Gidget!

Beauty of a piece my friend :hug:

[H2O Man]

24. Gidget

has fallen under the influence of dangerous thought-control freaks who want to stop war. This is what happens when evolution is taught in public schools.

[Coexist]

6. wonderful analogy.

[H2O Man]

25. "Gidget at Gitmo"

is sure to be playing on Fox soon.

[John Q. Citizen]

51. "Gidgit Gitmo a Go Go." Gidget visits Gitmo when her plane is diverted to the Cuban

Island positioned US Gulog due to a massive hurricane and unfounded terrist fears aboard plane.

While there, Gidget befriends a US Service Man worried about his dog back home, she falls hard for a Cuban resturant worker earning money during school break, and learns some hard lessons about water boards.

[H2O Man]

52. Great!

That is hilarious!

[warrior1]

9. This was aired on Fox?

Maybe hollywood should start boycotting this network too!

[H2O Man]

26. It's kind of strange

to try to imagine what the folks at Fox were thinking. As she was expressing an anti-war view, were they thinking, "This is really over the edge. We must protect the public!" Is it offensive to be against the war? Does it rate as a thought-crime yet?

[mmonk]

10. We need more restrictions on freedoms to protect us from flying nuns.

Imagine if more sisters became flying nuns. It would be the end of America. Someone needs to send in a new Homeland Security Bill that addresses this menace. I hope our candidates have sense enough to avoid such unAmerican ideas of flying nuns and will distance themselves from them.

[H2O Man]

34. It's true.

The only way to protect our Constitutional rights from the threat of Flying Nuns is to willingly give them up. I think that we all agree that the people at Fox News and the Vice President's Office have our best interests at heart. We can trust them. They know what's best.

[mmonk]

80. Absolutely. The speech of Flying Nuns is so vile,

we need all phones and computers tapped to make sure it doesn't spread. Anyone associated with this type of speech is an enemy combatant and should be sent to Guantanamo Bay, held in solitary, tortured on occasion and of course, denied access to our lawyers and courts. Again, all of our candidates should disassociate themselves from flying nuns and never discuss them and their un American activities.

[Me.]

13. The Question The WH Wants Answered

What was she flying on? It had to be an illegal substance, probably given to her by Cindy S., that made her say those things. There should be drug testing of all nominees and presenters in the future.

[H2O Man]

35. And where did

she get that dime that she made the phone call from? Did she borrow it from Arlo's "last guy"? Or did she sneak it from the collection plate? The whole episode raises a lot of questions. I hope that Bill O'Reilly takes this case on.

[Me.]

38. Shouldn't There Be A Congressional Hearing

an investigation, or something? If Gonzo was still on the job she wouldn't be allowed to be such a high flier. I think someone in the Dick's office wanted her job so there must be hurt feelings all the way from Pennsylvania Ave. to the shrouded justice bldg.

[H2O Man]

40. FISA court?

Issues involving Flying Nuns are too easily misunderstood by the general public -- hence Fox censors her speech for your safety. Did you know the Maryknoll sisters talked about things like feeding the poor, and clothing the naked? That's dangerous. If they want to improve our society, they should be clothing naked statues, in the name of the children.

[Me.]

50. You Know, I'm Glad She's Been Outed

I bet she even makes overseas calls AND, that Valentino gown of hers was designed by a non American. An Italian! Maybe Sismi alerted the WH who told Faux.

[Horse with no Name]

16. As if we haven't already paid a heavy price when THEY weren't vocal,

Great post waterman.

[H2O Man]

37. Thank you.

Things are becoming very strange in our country. The fact that a lady like Ms. Fields would be censored for what she said should be viewed as a sign that we are heading in a very wrong direction.

[bdamomma]

17. David Chase Producer of The Sopranos

gave a dig last nite also, commenting how the story was about gangsters, and how they send their kids to college, and provide food for them, and then he said something like maybe we have gangsters running the government, or something to that affect. But again, it was televised on FOX that explains it all doesn't it?

[H2O Man]

47. Programs about

mobsters killing one another is wholesome entertainment. It's as American as apple pie. But as parents, we face the prospect of having some Flying Nun butt in with some sick message about motherhood and nonviolence.

[SlowDownFast]

23. I always knew Gidget

was a damn commie pinko.

[H2O Man]

48. She always reminded me

of Karl Marx. Well, she never really did, but I could tell lies like that and get my own program on Fox.

[antigop]

27. What's with these nuns anyway? We have the National Coalition of Nuns calling for impeachment

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173352587402

and now we have the Flying Nun calling for peace.

What's up with these nuns anyway?

<edit to add> Thanks, H2O Man.

[H2O Man]

49. Don't listen to them!

They are dangerous. We need to receive our values from leaders such as Ben Wattenberg, who has authored books such as "Values Matter Most," and hosted that ever-popular and chipper program "Think Tank." And as a member of the American Enterprise Institute, he has not only bravely confronted the evils of Maryknoll sisters in Central America, but defined exactly what our values should be.

I think that Ben is correct that we need to not only build a wall between the Homeland and Mexico, but we need to secure netting across the top. This may be the only way to keep the flocks of Flying Nuns -- far more dangerous to our values than killer bees -- out of this country.

Nuns are foreigners. Trust Ben on this.

[MisterP]

74. Roberto D'Aubuisson hated priests and nuns; had he not tragically died in 1994,

we should have nominated him for the Democratic Party in 2000 instead of that weak anti-death-squad Gore. A good man, known to thise pro-guerrilla innocent peasants as "Blowtorch Bob," knew that priests and nuns were up to no good, and dealt with them accordingly. We cannot be weak in the face of Islamofascists and Monastofascists, or show critical thinking, or thinking of any sort, as it is unpatriotic.
I really CANNOT write as a rightist would--even if I reversed "Bush" and "nuns," I can't dredge up the frothing hatred against my target and those not lockstepping beside me. It's not "emotionalism," since rightists show reversed affect--individual pains (outside friends and family) often inspire scorn or disregard, while pissing themselves that the spreading Commies will sweep up from Nicaragua to sack San Antonio in the greatest state of the greatest nation in existence, founded by God. Leftists get outraged by mass murder and support for it--actual, substantial issues that demand intellectual and emotional responses. Calling someone a Holocaust denier for comparing an apartheid state to another apartheid state (as they did to Carter) is beyond me.

[H2O Man]

78. It is stunning,

really, that the republicans who helped create the likes of D'Aubuisson, and who consider themselves "Christians," did not fully grasp the symbolism of what was happening. I think that this is why they hate President Carter .... and it is hatred .... because he reminds them of what they try to ignore.

[spanone]

28. You allow a flying nun and next thing you knoww....

you have crawling nuns, skating nuns, hockey nuns, running nuns, thinking nuns....you see the slippery slope.

thank goddamn fux for covering our sensitive ears....

[H2O Man]

56. It's a scary world.

The idea of a citizen walking down the street, minding their own business, being savagely attacked by a flock of pacifist nuns would not have occured before. But that's September 10th thinking. I want the administration to come up with a Nun Threat System to warn about the level of danger they pose. Perhaps President Cheney's friend Ben Wattenberg could be put in charge.

[Mrs. Overall]

29. We need a pic:

[DemReadingDU]

32. WooHoo!

:woohoo:

[Patsy Stone]

33. The Flying Nun Gets Uppity

Great post, H2O Man. Kudos to Sally and all the other sisters who stand up for what's good and true.

K&R.

[H2O Man]

67. Her comment may

get more attention now, than it would have if they had not attempted to suppress her message. As John Lennon once said, a conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.

[Patsy Stone]

71. Absolutely!

The media loves nothing more than a "scandal", real or fabricated.

[peekaloo]

36. I blame Boniva! It strengthens the spine!

;-)

:patriot: to Sister Sally.

[GreenPartyVoter]

41. LOL

[Beausoir]

57. LOL!

[butterfly77]

39. Go Sally! Go!

[H2O Man]

68. It was a good thing

for her to speak her conscience.

[Mandate My Ass]

44. We absolutely need to distance ourselves

even if we like Sally, or really really like her.

Kudos to Ms. Field and H2O Man.

[H2O Man]

70. When the people

at Fox feel the need to censor a nice lady like Sally Fields, they are way out of touch.

[DemGa]

46. Wow, my admiration for the flying nun is soaring!

:yourock:

[EFerrari]

53. Kicking to read later. Great image.

lol

[moggie]

55. Why the hell wasn't she on the no-fly list?

Has the Flying Nun menace flown under the DHS's radar?

[me b zola]

62. Did Carlos put her up to this?

I knew that flying nun was going to be trouble because after all of these years I have yet to see her use the bible as a weapon.

There simply is no room for a radical like her in the Democratic Party. It is crucial for us to convince voters that we are as willing as the republican party to bomb/invade/occupy any nation that does not agree that their natural resources equals our national security interests.

[Irishonly]

63. Great Post

It's not nice to fool with the flying nun. God will get Faux for that.

[Pastiche423]

64. I nominate H2O Man for the Flying Nun award!

Deliciously funny. Thank you!

[bobbolink]

65. I'm pretty sure that God has damned the war.

He told me so.

[omega minimo]

72. Norma Ray Rocks. Long Live Karen Silkwood.

[H2O Man]

79. Long live Free Speech.

And conscience.

[TroubleMan]

73. The worst part of censorship is:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

75. Well said as always, H20 Man

If only I were one tenth as eloquent as you, the things I imagine I could do. However, since I'm not, I suffice in vicariously experiencing eloquence through you.

[PDenton]

76. She's obviously giving in to the terrorists

On a side note... I was playing this game called Bioshock, a game about an undersea Objectivist/rightwing utopia that goes horribly bad. Genetic engineering= mutant vampires, biomodification, Ayn Rand wannabees. It's got tons of Bush jabs. The PA system says stuff like: "Remember what Andrew Ryan says, when you talk like that, the terrorists win".

We do increasingly live in a country where our leaders think it is beyond the pale to say stuff that "makes the other side" win. Nevermind that we weren't the ones that decided to invade Iraq, not all of us feel like we should be on a crusade against Islam. I'm sure if it weren't for Godwin, they would somehow tie all this back to Hitler every chance they got.

[Swamp Rat]

82. I wish I could recommend your thread H2O Man

Ben Wattenberg is "currently working on a book, Tales of a Neo-Con":
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1380

"Committee for the Free World":
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/gw/1587



http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1380

Ben Wattenberg, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and moderator of PBS's Think Tank, was a member of a core group of Democratic Party hawks who, in the 1970s, shifted to the right after their failure to push the party to a more hardline, anti-Soviet posture. Like a number of his neoconservative contemporaries, including Richard Perle and Frank Gaffney, Wattenberg served on the staff of the hawkish pro-Israel Sen. Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) before joining the Ronald Reagan administration in the early 1980s. According to the profile on his infrequent weblog "Wattenblog," he is "currently working on a book, Tales of a Neo-Con," which is to be compiled from excerpts from his blog posts and from Think Tank.

In his 1997 neoconservative hagiography, Mark Gerson, a former director of the Project for the New American Century, included Wattenberg among a handful of early neoconservatives who according to Gerson were "largely Jewish intellectuals who, once considered to be on the left, are now on the right." Gerson listed some 40 individuals as being at the core of the early movement, including George Weigel and Irving Kristol—"the central figure of neoconservatism"—Gertrude Himmelfarb, Norman Podhoretz and Midge Decter, and an assortment of now well-known political figures, writers, and academics, including Michael Novak, William Bennett, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Joshua Muravchik, Walter Lacquer, Peter Berger, Elliott Abrams, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Sidney Hook, Nathan Glazer, Saul Bellow, Daniel Bell, Leon Kass, Carl Gershman, and Martin Peretz (see Neoconservative Vision, p. 4).

Wattenberg has been actively involved in a number of neoconservative-led pressure groups since the 1970s, when he was a member of the Coalition for a Democratic Majority (CDM), a group devoted to promoting the presidential candidacy of Senator Jackson and pushing back the influence of anti-war Democrats. In a 2005 obituary for Penn Kemble, a CDM cofounder who once organized for the anti-communist Young People's Socialist League, Wattenberg recalled the origins of the CDM: "All through the summer and early fall of 1972, a troop of counterrevolutionaries met furtively in a proletarian hideout at the old Federal City Club. It had to be kept secret: We couldn't be blamed for the Democratic catastrophe that we knew was coming. And so, under Penn's guidance one more letterhead organization was born. We planned full-page advertisements for the Washington Post and New York Times. We decided who would be listed as the organizing committee. They included House Speaker-to-be Tom Foley, Ambassador-to-be Jeane Kirkpatrick, civil rights leaders Bayard Rustin, Velma and Norman Hill, the 'boss' of Montgomery County Democratic politics Dick Schifter, Ambassador-to-be Peter Rosenblatt, and Arms-Control Negotiator-to-be Max Kampelman—and Penn Kemble" ("Passing of a Patriot," AEI, October 24, 2005).

(snip)

During the George W. Bush presidency, Wattenberg has been a reliable supporter of key aspects of Bush's foreign and domestic agendas. An outspoken promoter of the Iraq War and an aggressive "war on terror," Wattenberg joined a formidable list of neoconservatives and foreign policy hawks in 2004 to resurrect the Committee on the Present Danger (CPD), a group created in the 1970s to turn back the politics of détente with the Soviet Union and which helped set the stage for a revived Cold War during the Reagan presidency (also see GroupWatch Profile: Committee on the Present Danger). In its more recent incarnation, the CPD says its mission is "to educate free people everywhere about the threat posed by global radical Islamist and fascist terrorist movements; to counsel against appeasement of terrorists; to support policies that are part of a strategy of victory against this menace to freedom; and to support policies that encourage the development of civil society and democracy in those regions from which the terrorists emanate." In a blurb on CPD's website, Wattenberg is quoted as saying: "The rules of the game are strange: we win if we win, they win if they win, and we win in case of a tie. There will be plenty of other opportunities after Iraq to chase them down in a world which will remain uncertain, but with America as the leader."

In a June 2006 article for the conservative National Review, Wattenberg criticized those who compare the Iraq War to the Vietnam War, arguing: "On the Vietnam Memorial in Washington are about 58,000 names; in Iraq, the total number of KIAs is lower than the number of Americans killed on 9/11." Wattenberg continued: "In both wars, we were told our actions would hurt us in the eyes of the world. And so they did. Unfortunate. But we ended up as the exceptional nation, Number One, more influential than any nation in history, the City on a Hill, hearing anti-American language which boiled down to 'Yankee go home and take me with you.'"

(snip)

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1380