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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:19 AM
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*Breaking BBC!* Iraq Cancels Blackwater License after Shoot Out on Iraqi Citizens!
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 08:47 AM by KoKo01
ON EDIT: Yahoo just has an update to this story with more detail on the incident and what it means to Blackwater:

snip:Tens of thousands of foreign private security contractors work in Iraq — some with automatic weapons, body armor, helicopters and bulletproof vehicles — to provide protection for Westerners and dignitaries in Iraq as the country has plummeted toward anarchy and civil war.

Monday's action against Blackwater was likely to give the unpopular government a boost, given the contractors' widespread unpopularity.

Many of the contractors have been accused of indiscriminately firing at American and Iraqi troops, and of shooting to death an unknown number of Iraqi citizens who got too close to their heavily armed convoys, but none has faced charges or prosecution.

The question of whether they could face prosecution is a gray legal area. Unlike soldiers, they are not bound by the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Under a special provision secured by American-occupying forces, they are exempt from prosecution by Iraqis for crimes committed there.

Khalaf, however, denied that the exemption applied to private security companies.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070917/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=AtNpztTqhhFxAgRSA4E5n5Os0NUE

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Iraq shootout firm loses licence

Blackwater security personnel on board a helicopter in Baghdad (2005)
As many as 20,000 private security contractors are working in Iraq
Iraq has cancelled the licence of the private security firm, Blackwater USA, after it was involved in a gunfight in which at least eight civilians died.

The Iraqi interior ministry said the contractor, based in North Carolina, was now banned from operating in Iraq.


The Blackwater workers, who were contracted by the US state department, apparently opened fire after coming under attack in Baghdad on Sunday.

Aftermath of a car bombing and shoot-out in Baghdad

The Iraqi interior ministry has said it will investigate Sunday's incidentThe interior ministry's director of operations, Maj Gen Abdul Karim Khalaf, said authorities would prosecute any foreign contractors found to have used excessive force.

"We have opened a criminal investigation against the group who committed the crime," he told the Agence France-Presse news agency. All Blackwater personnel have been told to leave Iraq immediately, with the exception of the men involved in the incident on Sunday. They will have to remain the country and stand trial, the ministry said.

------------more at BBC LINK: (apparently it was a convoy carrying US State Department Employees that was involved in the incident)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6998788.stm
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:21 AM
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1. whoops
and it's about time.
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:21 AM
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2. Wow! I wonder how they'll enforce this. It won't be pretty.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:12 AM
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20. Why should it be pretty? It hasn't been pretty up to now. n/t
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:22 AM
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3. Dupe
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 05:07 PM
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22. I wasn't up early enough to catch the first posts and nothing was there so I posted
after hearing News on NPR/BBC Morning report. Googled and found the BBC report. Didn't know that it was "old news."
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:23 AM
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4. Blackwater Death Squads is more like it.
just picking off people as they wish, yea, kick their asses out!!!!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:24 AM
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5. There they go, acting like a soverign nation again
Come to think of it, is there any reason why Congress couldn't defund the mercenaries?

:headbang:
rocknation
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:30 AM
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15. Defund Bush's mercenaries? THIS bought-and-paid-for Congress?
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 09:35 AM by Nothing Without Hope
I've concluded that there is no way they don't know they're in the wrong. Either they are bribed, blackmailed, cowardly, or some loathsome combination. All too few of our "representatives" in Congress have stood up and spoken the truth and then consistently voted with conscience.

Kucinich has been one of these courageous and honest ones from the first. And I'm sick of hearing the knee-jerk response "but he's unelectable!"

As for the others? Tom Tomorrow gets it right, as he so often does:



found here: http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=22395
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:25 AM
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6. bu$h* will count them among the troops he's bringing home
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:42 AM
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11. All the subtle nonsense that is going on, and this one will most
likely be among the collective nonsense.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:25 AM
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7. Sooo overdue. They should tell the US military to leave for killing Iraqis too.
Hopefully tomorrow :rofl:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:30 AM
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8. Sounds like the actions of a sovereign nation
Time for us to go home too.


And then I woke up.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:32 AM
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9. I think the Iraqi Minister of the Interior better watch his back now. eom
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:35 AM
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10. I can't wait for the Iraqis to start hanging them. THAT will send a message!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 08:44 AM
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12. now if we could get them banned in the USA that would be progress nt
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:25 AM
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14. So true. Here are three recent threads on domestic activities of these Bush-backed
mercenaries:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1561865
8-10-07 NBC Blackwater Report: This is a company that increasingly has its sights on domestic deployments...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1586069
8-14-07 California Communities Stand Up to Blackwater War Profiteers

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1689673&mesg_id=1689673
8-29-07 - Coming To A State Near You: Blackwater Air Force

So far, they've operated above the law in Iraq. The world will be watching to see if the Bush fascists will allow them to be brought to justice for ANY of their atrocities.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:23 AM
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13. Kick!
:kick:
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:35 AM
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16. When is someone in that parliament going to introduce a resolution
Politely inviting the foreign invaders to get the fuck out of the nation they raped?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:38 AM
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17. Two more current threads on this development - LINK:
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 09:49 AM by Nothing Without Hope
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:48 AM
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18. A couple of questions
Why were they guarding US State Department Employees? Shouldn't the military have been doing this?

What's to keep them from starting a new hire-a-merc service under a different name and send these same people right back to Iraq?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 10:17 AM
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19. will they be missed?
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 10:30 AM by stillcool47
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/contractindex.htm
There are now 630 companies working in Iraq on contract for the US government, with personnel from more than 100 countries offering services ranging from cooking and driving to the protection of high-ranking army officers. Their 180,000 employees now outnumber America's 160,000 official troops. The precise number of mercenaries is unclear, but last year, a US government report identified 48,000 employees of private military/security firms.

Blackwater is far from being the biggest mercenary firm operating in Iraq, nor is it the most profitable. But it has the closest proximity to the throne in Washington and to radical rightwing causes, leading some critics to label it a "Republican guard".
Blackwater offers the services of some of the most elite forces in the world and is tasked with some of the occupation's most "mission-critical" activities, namely keeping alive the most hated men in Baghdad - a fact it has deftly used as a marketing tool. Since the Iraq invasion began four years ago, Blackwater has emerged out of its compound near the Great Dismal Swamp of North Carolina as the trendsetter of the mercenary industry, leading the way toward a legitimisation of one of the world's dirtiest professions. And it owes its meteoric rise to the policies of the Bush administration.
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While precise data on the extent of American spending on mercenary services is nearly impossible to obtain, Congressional sources say that the US has spent at least $6bn (£3bn) in Iraq, while Britain has spent some £200m. Like America, Britain has used private security from firms like ArmorGroup to guard Foreign Office and International Development officials in Iraq. Other British firms are used to protect private companies and media, but UK firms do their biggest business with Washington. The single largest US contract for private security in Iraq has for years been held by the British firm Aegis, headed by Tim Spicer, the retired British lieutenant-colonel who was implicated in the Arms to Africa scandal of the late 1990s, when weapons were shipped to a Sierra Leone militia leader during a weapons embargo. Aegis's Iraq contract - essentially coordinating the private military firms in Iraq - was valued at approximately $300m (£1147m) and drew protests from US competitors and lawmakers.

At present, a US or British special forces veteran working for a private security company in Iraq can make $650 (£320) a day, after the company takes its cut. At times the rate has reached $1,000 (£490) a day - pay that dwarfs that of active-duty troops. "We got contractors over there, some of them making more than the secretary of defense," John Murtha, chairman of the House defense appropriations subcommittee, recently said. "How in the hell do you justify that?"

In part, these contractors do mundane jobs that traditionally have been performed by soldiers, from driving trucks to doing laundry. These services are provided through companies such as Halliburton, KBR and Fluor and through their vast labyrinth of subcontractors. But increasingly, private personnel are engaged in armed combat and "security" operations. They interrogate prisoners, gather intelligence, operate rendition flights, protect senior occupation officials - including some commanding US generals - and in some cases have taken command of US and international troops in battle. In an admission that speaks volumes about the extent of the privatisation, General David Petraeus, who is implementing Bush's troop surge, said earlier this year that he has, at times, not been guarded in Iraq by the US military but "secured by contract security". At least three US commanding generals are currently being guarded in Iraq by hired guns.
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In the case of Iraq, what is particularly frightening is that the US and UK governments could give the public the false impression that the occupation was being scaled down, while in reality it was simply being privatised. Indeed, shortly after Tony Blair announced that he wanted to withdraw 1,600 soldiers from Basra, reports emerged that the British government was considering sending in private security companies to "fill the gap left behind".

Outsourcing is increasingly extending to extremely sensitive sectors, including intelligence. The investigative blogger RJ Hillhouse, whose site TheSpyWhoBilledMe.com regularly breaks news on the clandestine world of private contractors and US intelligence, recently established that Washington spends $42bn (£21bn) annually on private intelligence contractors, up from $18bn in 2000. Currently, that spending represents 70% of the US intelligence budget.

But the mercenary forces are also diversifying geographically: in Latin America, the massive US firm DynCorp is operating in Colombia, Bolivia and other countries as part of the "war on drugs" - US defence contractors are receiving nearly half the $630m in US military aid for Colombia; in Africa, mercenaries are deploying in Somalia, Congo and Sudan and increasingly have their sights set on tapping into the hefty UN peacekeeping budget; inside the US, private security staff now outnumber official law enforcement. Heavily armed mercenaries were deployed in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, while there are proposals to privatise the US border patrol. Brooks, the private military industry lobbyist, says people should not become "overly obsessed with Iraq", saying his association's member companies "have more personnel working in UN and African Union peace operations than all but a handful of countries".


Silent Surge in Contractor 'Armies'
By Brad Knickerbocker
Christian Science Monitor
July 18, 2007
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/contract/2007/0718silentsurge.htm
In Iraq, up to 180,000 contractors

Estimates of the number of private security personnel and other civilian contractors in Iraq today range from 126,000 to 180,000 – nearly as many, if not more than, the number of Americans in uniform there. Most are not Americans. They come from Fiji, Brazil, Scotland, Croatia, Hungary, New Zealand, Pakistan, South Africa, Australia, and other countries. "A very large part of the total force is not in uniform," Scott Horton, who teaches the law of armed conflict at Columbia University School of Law, said in congressional testimony last month. In World War II and the Korean War, contractors amounted to 3 to 5 percent of the total force deployed. Through the Vietnam War and the first Gulf War, the percentage grew to roughly 10 percent, he notes. "But in the current conflict, the number appears to be climbing steadily closer to parity" with military personnel. "This represents an extremely radical transformation in the force configuration," he says.

Until recently, there has been little oversight of civilian contractors operating in Iraq. The Defense Department is not adequately keeping track of contractors – where they are or even how many there are, the Government Accountability Office concluded in a report last December. This is especially true as military units rotate in and out of the war zone (as do contractors) and institutional memory is lost. This lack of accountability has begun to change with a Democrat-controlled Congress. As part of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act passed last year, Congress now requires that civilian contractors who break the law – hurt or kill civilians, for example – come under the legal authority of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So far, however, the Pentagon has not issued guidance to field commanders on how to do this. Proposed bills in the House and Senate would require "transparency and accountability in military and security contracting." For example, companies would be required to provide information on the hiring and training of civilian workers, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff would have to issue rules of engagement regarding the circumstances under which contractors could use force.

Senior commanders acknowledge the value of contractors, especially those that are armed and ready to fight if attacked. At his Senate confirmation hearing in January, Army Gen. David Petraeus, commander of the multinational force in Iraq, said that the "surge" by US forces in Iraq might not include enough American troops. "However, there are tens of thousands of contract security forces and ministerial security forces that do, in fact, guard facilities and secure institutions," he added. "That does give me the reason to believe that we can accomplish the mission in Baghdad."




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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:15 AM
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21. One might ask what they are licensed to do, by whom, and if they are able to enforce this.
Because I have to tell you, someone in the Green Zone is likely going to tell the Iraqis to go fuck themselves and that may be the end of that.
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