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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:19 AM
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"You can't support the troops, if you don't support their mission."
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 11:22 AM by King Coal
A lady at the protest in Washington D.C., who had a son in the war, actually said that in a TV interview. How obtuse. Why would she believe that? Wishful thinking? I guess it must make her feel better to think that her son is put at risk for the reason of making America safer. It is too painful for her to realize the truth. Poor lady. I really feel sorry for her.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:21 AM
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1. Probably addicted to Fox news
would be my guess.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:23 AM
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2. She is in total
denial. So sad. I guess I would want to believe that the harm my son was in was for a good reason.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:24 AM
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3. Brainwashed bitch.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:24 AM
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4. Hate the sin, love the sinner
I thought they understood that.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:25 AM
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5. Fine. I'll do neither then.
I'm a bit sick of this obsessive "troop love" anyway. They're just people who's employer wants them dead. :sarcasm:

Honestly, I feel sorry for that woman, too.
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JenniferJuniper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:47 AM
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6. I don't support the troops or what they are doing.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:47 AM
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7. Wow. That is a seriously stupid thing to believe.
It basically says you must be blindly loyal to the President and support any war.

Does she say this when a Democrat is in office, or just her republican fuhrer?



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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:49 AM
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8. "If it doesn't fit...you must acquit"..
Same kind of stupid logic.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 12:01 PM
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9. Remind them of the DeLay Doctrine
"You can support the troops but not the president"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


Read more here (****ing hypocrites!):

Republicans react to Clinton over Kosovo
By: John Amato @ 1:18 PM - PDT Why did they second-guess our commitment to freedom from genocide and demand that we cut and run?

" President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be
away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."

-Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)

"No goal, no objective, not until we have those things and a compelling case is made, then I say, back out of it, because innocent people are going to die for nothing. That’s why I’m against it."

-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/5/99

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."

-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush

Why did they demoralize our brave men and women in uniform?

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning…I didn’t think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."

-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)


"You think Vietnam was bad? Vietnam is nothing next to Kosovo."

-Tony Snow, Fox News 3/24/99


"Well, I just think it’s a bad idea. What’s going to happen is they’re going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years"

-Joe Scarborough (R-FL)


"I’m on the Senate Intelligence Committee, so you can trust me and believe me when I say we’re running out of cruise missles. I can’t tell you exactly how many we have left, for security reasons, but we’re almost out of cruise missles."

-Senator Inhofe (R-OK )

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarifiedrules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"I don’t know that Milosevic will ever raise a white flag"

-Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"

-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

Why didn’t they support our president in a time of war?


"Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."

-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)


"This is President Clinton’s war, and when he falls flat on his face, that’s his problem."

-Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)

"The two powers that have ICBMs that can reach the United States are Russia and China. Here we go in. We’re taking on not just Milosevic. We can’t just say, ‘that little guy, we can whip him.’ We have these two other powers that have missiles that can reach us, and we have zero defense thanks to this president."

-Senator James Inhofe (R-OK)


"You can support the troops but not the president"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


"My job as majority leader is be supportive of our troops, try to have input as decisions are made and to look at those decisions after they’re made … not to march in lock step with everything the president decides to do."

-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)


"For us to call this a victory and to commend the President of the United States as the Commander in Chief showing great leadership in Operation Allied Force is a farce"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

Why did they blame America first?

Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly."

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


"Once the bombing commenced, I think then Milosevic unleashed his forces, and then that’s when the slaughtering and the massive ethnic cleansing really started"

-Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)

"
Clinton’s bombing campaign has caused all of these problems to explode"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


"America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo’s capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country"

-Pat Buchanan (R)


"These international war criminals were led by Gen. Wesley Clark …who clicked his shiny heels for the commander-in-grief, Bill Clinton."

-Michael Savage


"This has been an unmitigated disaster … Ask the Chinese embassy. Ask all the people in Belgrade that we’ve killed. Ask the refugees that we’ve killed. Ask the people in nursing homes. Ask the people in hospitals."

-Representative Joe Scarborough (R-FL)


"It is a remarkable spectacle to see the Clinton Administration and NATO taking over from the Soviet Union the role of sponsoring "wars of national liberation."

-Representative Helen Chenoweth (R-ID)


"America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo’s capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country"

-Pat Buchanan (R )


"By the order to launch air strikes against Serbia, NATO and President Clinton have entered uncharted territory in mankind’s history. Not even Hitler’s grab of the Sudetenland in the 1930s, which eventually led to WW II, ranks as a comparable travesty. For, there are no American interests whatsoever that the NATO bombing will either help, or protect; only needless risks to which it exposes the American soldiers and assets, not to mention the victims on the ground in Serbia."

-Bob Djurdjevic, founder of Truth in Media


Crooks and Liars


Remind them that "the mission (or lack thereof) is entirely President Bush's, so one can support the troops but not the mission/president...
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 12:09 PM
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10. To the lady: Define "The Mission", please.
Define "Victory".

Don't say "a pro-Western, terrorist-free Democracy in Iraq". We don't even have that HERE; we're a corporocratic Republic, FOR the needs of a few AT the behest of millions.

What makes this woman think we're going to change a few thousand years worth of history, culture, religion and mindset?

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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 12:22 PM
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11. I agree
The president hasn't had a clear mission since day 1 for this war. The war has gone from a 1 month affair that would pay for itself, to a 50 year peace keeping occupation. Doesn't it bother her that her son has no clear objective? Why are we in Iraq WMD, Saddam, prevent civil war, help in civil war, terrorist, insurgents, oil, democracy, Al Qaeda...
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 12:47 PM
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12. Because some people have to believe that
It's alot easier to deal with a death of your child for a good cause but it is almost impossible to come to grips that your child died for a lie and the reality is that no one will ever really pay for it.

Human nature.
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 01:17 PM
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13. What happens if the troops aren't at war?
hehe, think about it. You can only support the troops if you support the war. Then if we are NOT at war, you can't support the troops.
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