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fedupfisherman Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:07 PM
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Taxation for healthcare
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 11:20 PM by fedupfisherman
How much are you willing to see your taxes raised to pay for health care for all?

I'd pay a lot to make sure everyone gets health care and coverage
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:08 PM
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1. My Medicare deduction is $40 per month.
My health insurance deduction is just over $500 per month. I might even split the difference.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:09 PM
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2. Let's cut our defense budget first.
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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:46 PM
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8. I'll Say!
Remember that plane that lost billions of $$, when it went over to Iraq, and they claimed that they couldn't find it?

That was enough $$ to cover every man woman and child in the USA! :wtf:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:09 PM
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3. if we pay insurance premiums already
why not pay a tax instead? Very rich pay more?
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:10 PM
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4. Welcome to DU
I am willing to send the amount I pay to the insurance company per month - about $500 for my family - to Medicare if they'll let me and mine in on it now.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:17 PM
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5. can't keep taxing cigarettes
Oregon is trying to raise cigarette taxes at the same time the feds are. I love how everybody is gung ho for children's health insurance since they aren't the ones paying for it. Maybe we should tax wine or something like that for a change.

You can raise my taxes 5%, but I can't do much more than that. Most programs I've seen call for a 6% tax. I don't know if that includes what we already pay for medicare or not.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:31 PM
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6. EU runs 10% to 15% - depends on coverage & if part of FIT or just on wages
I'd prefer 10% of FIT
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 11:37 PM
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7. France's Sécurité Sociale levies something like a 20 percent payroll tax to fund it all
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 11:41 PM by Selatius
Of course, I think the payroll tax is too regressive in nature and acts to slow an economy, but aside from the funding, it covers all medical expenses. Roughly 75 percent of costs are covered, and people are free to purchase supplemental insurance to cover the last 25 percent.

My suggestion is if we're going to pay for a single-payer health care system, it should be done through a progressive tax code, but this requires reform of the tax code to eliminate the special interest pork in the code. Otherwise, you will continue having the wealthiest people finding ways to pay lower income taxes than average middle class people and the working poor.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:05 AM
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9. Medicare taxes are a modest 1.45% of wages, paid by employees and employers both.
For Part A...A bargain.

Part B premiums (individual) are $88.50 a month...A bargain.

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Social Security taxes are currently 6.2% of employee wages up to a $90,000 wage cap. No taxes on wages above that income...A grossly too low cap. Social Security solvency could be adequately maintained with even a modest increase in the wage cap on taxation.



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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:13 AM
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10. Whatever the future taxation figure increase attributed to a new heathcare
payment system, it must be offset by at least an equivalent reduction in the currently-insured individual's total healthcare expenses.

There is enough fat and ineffciency to do that, but only by removing the insurance companies and their skim-some-profit mindset.


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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 12:24 AM
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11. I saw a post earlier that mentioned the possibility that a buy in option for Medicare, open to all,
may be the choice taken by many already insured individuals. An unintended consequence, I guess, and not the most *up front* way to universal, single-payer healthcare, but an interesting possible consequence.
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