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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:46 AM
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Is oneupmanship hardwired into humans, or mostly a cultural thing?

Having spent many years in the US working world, I'd be inclined to think so. It is one thing I find most tiresome about work. Although you see a lot of it outside of work, as well.

I don't think it's nearly so prevalent among the Inuit, at least it wasn't before they were exposed to Europeans.

Any thoughts?
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:52 AM
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1. I see it in myself - I can suppress it, but the response is there n/t
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:01 AM
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2. Its hardwired into mammels.
Culture can can suppress it. Environment can alleviate its expression.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:04 AM
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3. I think it's been observed in other primates
so I think the tendency is there. It can be exacerbated by our culture, I think, too.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:11 AM
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4. It all depends on the culture
In some cultures - Japan springs to mind - oneupmanship is practically a sin. Being too competitive, showing too much self-promotion and putting down rivals demonstrates extremely bad taste. "The nail that sticks up will be hammered down", is the expression that they use.

In cultures such as the Inuit, where cooperation is vital to the society as a whole, it's almost unheard of, at least where it concerns serious life and death issues. Play is another matter, however.

In America it's practically mandatory for the purposes of 'getting ahead'. You like to think you're a meritocracy, but extreme competition and loud self-promotion seems to be the way to succeed.

Evey culture has their own kind of oneupmanship, but some value cooperation and conciliation a lot more.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:13 AM
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5. doesn't meritocracy imply competition?
I don't see the conflict.

Bryant
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:13 AM
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6. I think the wiring is there but it's expressed through culture
For example, in a culture that values cooperation, the more cooperative one-ups the less cooperative. Imagine a culture that holds humility as an important value. In that culture, folks might be stepping over each other to be the most humble. I don't think the basic drive is about dominance so much as social status.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:14 AM
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7. It's inherent to primates
Alphas always try to dominate. Part of the pack mind, I'm afraid.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:15 AM
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8. Yes
It seems to be instintual among primates, part of a hardwired urge to be "alpha male." Culture can supress or enhance this urge, however.
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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:16 AM
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9. Americans are taught pride
... in destroying other people. It's like a pyramid scheme, you measure your self esteem in the number of people you beat to get somewhere.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:18 AM
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10. Both, but to a varying degree in each individual. - n/t
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:25 AM
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11. It's one, then the other
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