It isn't too late Senator Kerry - ANSWER the question the poor kid who was tasered asked you

[debbierlus]

I haven't forgotten 2004, Senator Kerry. I remember you concedeing the election without a fight. I remember you breaking your promise to ensure that every vote would be counted. You wouldn't allow a repeat of 2000. You would fight.

But, you didn't. And, it wasn't about you claiming your legitimately won seat. It was about fighting for the people who believed in you & fought for YOU. The African-American citizens who stood hours in line in Ohio, only to have their votes never counted. The people who volunteered their time & gave the few pennies they had to help you get elected. Those who traveled to swing states to campaign & work & try to stop this criminal regime.

But, you turned your back on us. And, you have NEVER ANSWERED WHY.

I am disgusted. Where are you? Are you helping the poor kid whose only crime was asking a question you did not wish to talk about? Are you helping provide medical & legal assistance? Have you met with him & have you given him a personal apology? I am one of your constituents, Sen Kerry, & I am not impressed. You are not the leader I thought you were. You proved that three years ago. But, this just takes the cake.

[lazer47]

1. And you need to to answer up for world hunger also,

and everything else thats wrong with anything,,:sarcasm:

[debbierlus]

10. What a pathetic comment to a valid post...

Kerry is at the CENTER of both incidents.

[sandnsea]

2. E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E

It's been answered so many fucking times that people are hoarse and their fingers are bleeding.

[uppityperson]

5. He had enough evidence by the morning after the election? THAT is what rankles.

[GeorgeGist]

7. Kerry is pulling a reverse Bush ...

Kerry never bothered to look for evidence that existed. And like Bush he doesn't want to be reminded that he's busted.

[debbierlus]

14. The kid was holding the evidence in his hand

Ever read Armed Madhouse....

Kerry has NEVER stood up to his responsibility on this issue. Ever.

[RangerRK]

3. BRAVO!

He needs to answer to the people who worked to get him elected.

He said he read Palast's book- if he knows what went down, he should be working to expose the election fraud now, for the future of our Democracy. He owes us at least that much.

He should be speaking out in favor of Kucinich's bill for Hand counted paper ballots! He should be introducing it in the Senate!

[ProSense]

8. Palast needs to talk to RFK. Jr.

By midnight, the official tallies showed a decisive lead for George Bush -- and the next day, lacking enough legal evidence to contest the results, Kerry conceded.

Only a complete investigation by federal authorities can determine the full extent of any bribery and vote rigging that has taken place. The public must be assured that the power to count the votes -- and to recount them, if necessary -- will not be ceded to for-profit corporations with a vested interest in superseding the will of the people. America's elections are the most fundamental element of our democracy -- not a market to be privatized by companies like Diebold.

More.

[debbierlus]

11. Exactly. The evidence for a stolen election in Ohio in 2004 was HUGE

Kerry had a moral & ethical responsibility to work openly, exhaustively, & transparently to expose what went down in 2004. But, he didn't. I have seen so many people say here...but he wouldn't have been able to get the office...SO WHAT????!!! By dropping the issue, he allowed Bush to steal ANOTHER election, it dropped all coverage of the extensive fraud & illegal tactics used during the 2004 campaign, & betrayed those he assured he would fight for....

It was a slap in the face & a huge betrayal.

The fact that (some) people here can't understand the vital importance of his actions after the election leaves me baffled.

So, here we are...2008 approaches...they have been working since 2004 to steal this next election & the sound of silence is deafening. Two stolen elections & the truth is silenced by the mere threat of the words consiparacy theory.

[MalloyLiberal]

4. you're not allowed to ask tough questions anymore.

It's "1984" really. If you've read that book this country is turning exactly into it.

[brentspeak]

6. Where's YOUR pledge to assist the kid/practical jokester?

Well, come on! Let's hear all your plan to help the kid.

How about if you make a pledge, right here, right now, that YOU will donate your time and/or money to help this kid.

[uppityperson]

9. sometimes I don't understand you brentspeak.

[debbierlus]

12. The lack of ability of those responding to this post to critically think is frightening.

Practical jokester. He was ASKING A LEGITIMATE QUESTION. Where did you make the leap into practical joker? Are you a freeper?

Go google the video & watch it. It is beyond sickening. The kid did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG.

And, where on earth do you get off putting the Senator's failure to act & intervene on MY lap???? This comment is just bizarre.

[blm]

13. That MAN pushed and shoved other students waiting to speak - students who

had rights that Meyer believed were INFERIOR to his rights.

Students who in post Virginia Tech reality are entitled to exercise their rights in a safe environment on their campuses.

Kerry acted appropriately. The police and the MAN who caused the incident OVER=REACTED.

And Kerry has spoken out a number of times - including about the GOP's institutionalization of election theft tactics.

Except THAT doesn't get the coverage does it?

Making this into Kerry's fault is always an easy task when corpmedia and the establishment in DC has been working for three decades to shut his voice and work down. Just what they need - more help.

[cali]

15. Gag me.

Show evidence. Real incontrovertible evidence, that Kerry actually won, and evidence that he knew he won. That obviously was NOT what his lawyers advised him. And they know more than Palast.

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. Mark Crispin Miller quoting John Kerry:

"Speaking of John Kerry, I have some news for you. On Friday, this last Friday night, I arranged to meet Senator Kerry at a fundraiser to give him a copy of my book. He told me he now thinks the election was stolen. He said he doesn't believe that he is the person who can go out front on the issue, because of the sour grapes, you know, question. But he said he believes it was stolen."

[Johonny]

16. Maybe the kid might of gotten an answer

If he hadn't push himself through the line, asked a question with intent to get it answered rather than rattling off questions with no chance to or interest in receiving an answer, left when his allotted time was up, had not disobeyed the order of a police officer, had not ended up publicly embarrassing himself and has made the rest of the questioners question time irrelevant by placing the focus of the event on himself and the officers actions, then any real issues that demanded real answers might have gotten answered. If you want or think Kerry must answer any subject brought up by this kid then I hate to tell you this was the worst way in which to get a response to his questions. Can I take serious a person that feels Kerry's membership in Skull and Bones is equal to the possible fraud in the 2004 election? No. And by questioning Kerry in this manner you make it far less likely Kerry will ever give you his honest opinion on the 2004 election results, because it would appear to equate 2004 election fraud with conspiracy theories of secret societies. Way to marginalize yourself in public. There is a right way and a wrong way to conduct yourself in a public forum, if you chose the wrong way you better be prepared for the possible consequences. Was his a cause worth what he did? No, you can’t even tell what exactly is incoherent ramblings were about. If this was a legitimate protest then it’s almost certainly a failure as it has pushed the topic of his arrest above the topic of his protest. I repeat this is not only because of his being tasered but because he failed to make a clear precise statement. If you are for election reform and honest investigation into the 2000 and 2004 election results then this kid did you no favors.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. The Frees Press 2004 election theft...GAO report:

The GAO findings are particularly damning when set in the context of an election run in Ohio by a Secretary of State simultaneously working as co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign. Far from what election theft skeptics have long asserted, the GAO findings confirm that the electronic network on which 800,000 Ohio votes were cast was vulnerable enough to allow a a tiny handful of operatives -- or less -- to turn the whole vote count using personal computers operating on relatively simple software.

The GAO documentation flows alongside other crucial realities surrounding the 2004 vote count. For example:

# The exit polls showed Kerry winning in Ohio, until an unexplained last minute shift gave the election to Bush. Similar definitive shifts also occurred in Iowa, Nevada and New Mexico, a virtual statistical impossibility.

# A few weeks prior to the election, an unauthorized former ES&S voting machine company employee, was caught on the ballot-making machine in Auglaize County

# Election officials in Mahoning County now concede that at least 18 machines visibly transferred votes for Kerry to Bush. Voters who pushed Kerry's name saw Bush's name light up, again and again, all day long. Officials claim the problems were quickly solved, but sworn statements and affidavits say otherwise. They confirm similar problems in Franklin County (Columbus). Kerry's margins in both counties were suspiciously low.

# A voting machine in Mahoning County recorded a negative 25 million votes for Kerry. The problem was allegedly fixed.

# In Gahanna Ward 1B, at a fundamentalist church, a so-called "electronic transfer glitch" gave Bush nearly 4000 extra votes when only 638 people voted at that polling place. The tally was allegedly corrected, but remains infamous as the "loaves and fishes" vote count.

# In Franklin County, dozens of voters swore under oath that their vote for Kerry faded away on the DRE without a paper trail.

# In Miami County, at 1:43am after Election Day, with the county's central tabulator reporting 100% of the vote - 19,000 more votes mysteriously arrived; 13,000 were for Bush at the same percentage as prior to the additional votes, a virtual statistical impossibility.

# In Cleveland, large, entirely implausible vote totals turned up for obscure third party candidates in traditional Democratic African-American wards. Vote counts in neighboring wards showed virtually no votes for those candidates, with 90% going instead for Kerry.

# Prior to one of Blackwell's illegitimate "show recounts," technicians from Triad voting machine company showed up unannounced at the Hocking County Board of Elections and removed the computer hard drive.

# In response to official information requests, Shelby and other counties admit to having discarded key records and equipment before any recount could take place.

# In a conference call with Rev. Jackson, Attorney Cliff Arnebeck, Attorney Bob Fitrakis and others, John Kerry confirmed that he lost every precinct in New Mexico that had a touchscreen voting machine. The losses had no correlation with ethnicity, social class or traditional party affiliation---only with the fact that touchscreen machines were used.

# In a public letter, Rep. Conyers has stated that "by and large, when it comes to a voting machine, the average voter is getting a lemon - the Ford Pinto of voting technology. We must demand better."


But the GAO report now confirms that electronic voting machines as deployed in 2004 were in fact perfectly engineered to allow a very small number of partisans with minimal computer skills and equipment to shift enough votes to put George W. Bush back in the White House.

Given the growing body of evidence, it appears increasingly clear that's exactly what happened.

GAO Report

Revised 10/27/05

http://freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1529