Does anyone know what that obnoxious student asked of Kerry

[question everything]

that he was forcefully removed?

And, according to the video, there were several hefty police officers who carried him away. So why not just carry him away and hand cuff him?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. He asked him about his fraternity.

Or something.

[question everything]

2. Thanks. And Kerry did say that he was going to answer

I cannot believe that some on campus who say he deserved it..

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. Oh I don't think the kid was interested in questions and answers.

[reality based]

10. They were afraid he was going to ask if the Skull and Bones initiation

really involved "gettin' nekkid".

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. They were afraid he was going to ask about european or african swallows.

[parasim]

24. Yeah, no kiddin', those 'Boners really hate that question...

... but they really get up in arms when they're asked if they're subverting the Constitution so they can rule the world... that's when they compare themseleves to just some dumb college fraternity. Ha ha ha...

[LanternWaste]

28. he horror. The horror...

"subverting the Constitution so they can rule the world... "

Gotta watch out for those fraternities... one of them took over a local pub already. The horror. The horror...

[parasim]

29. Yeah... heh heh, they sure got you convinced... ha ha...

[poverlay]

3. The kid was in no way "obnoxious", "inciting a riot", or even rude. He had legit questions and we

should all be outraged over the stifling of questioning. We need more like him.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. kerry encouraged his questions.

[Connie_Corleone]

15. He was obnoxious and rude.

He was in the back of the line and cut in front of everyone to get to the mic. He was told to ask his questions and he continued to go on and on with his statements before getting to the questions.

He had a confrontation with the cops before he got to the mic. That part isn't on the video.

The questions aren't the problem. It's his behavior before, during and after his questions that's the problem.

[poverlay]

18. None of which is a tazering offense. n/t

[Connie_Corleone]

22. Didn't say it was.

As far as the tasering, I'm sure they could've subdued him with I think 6 cops.

I'm more upset at some people blaming Kerry for this. He was trying to answer the guy's questions and told everyone to calm down. Kerry said he didn't realize the young man had been tasered until after the event. I believe him considering you can't really see what's going on in the back of the auditorium.

[MannyGoldstein]

23. He Might Have Been Drunk Or Drugged, Or Had Psych Issues

But can't imagine it warranting a Taser. Tasers can kill people by causing cardiac arrest.

[goodgd_yall]

27. Didn't look like it to me.

[question everything]

30. If many wanted to ask questions and he grabbed the microphone

then there should be some method of cutting him off.

However, tasering him was not call for. If there was ever a case to be sued, this is it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

4. he went on about impeachment, stolen votes and skull and bones

[saracat]

8. He was obnoxious and delusional!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

12. he might have been but regardless kerry had the grace to NOT stop him

or ask him to shut up

[radiclib]

19. OK he was obnoxious, but delusional?

Kerry DID win, voters WERE disenfranchised, machines DID steal votes, Kerry IS a "Bonesman", and the Chimp SHOULD ABSOLUTELY be impeached. Where's the delusion?

[poverlay]

20. How was he delusional? I mean I must be too because I have all of the same questions. Get out your

taser...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

6. He held up Greg Palast's book, Armed Madhouse and asked Kerry, that if there were

so many issues in Ohio and it is very possible with election fraud that he won, why did he concede. The second question .. He asked Kerry about Skull and Bones and then he mentioned his concern about war with Iran and asked Kerry why won't he support Impeachment.

These are valid questions that have created hundreds of threads on DU from concerned DUers.

[question everything]

31. Yes, all are valid questions that could be asked on a one on one

interview.

But he was not the only one and, no doubt, Kerry was there for a limited time and, no doubt, other students had their own questions, perhaps the same.

We are getting to be a society where some thinks that because they are the strongest, or the loudest, or the richest - that they have a birthright to move to the front of the line and screw others who - gasp - are willing to stand quietly and wait for their turn.

But, as I said, tasering him was not warranted. Not with many muscular cops grabbing him and hauling him out.

[jpgray]

9. He asked a few good questions

First about black voter suppression, backwards counting voting machines, etc.

Then about Skull and Bones, which from what I've read is not very relevant but it is fine to ask.

Then about impeachment, and the "why aren't we doing it" which is again a totally valid question.

[question everything]

32. Yes, all are valid questions

see my response, above #31.

[parasim]

11. Yeah, he asked him about why he didn't contest the election and...

... his membership in Skull and Bones. The cops started their swoop right after the S&B question, so apparently that was the evil question.

Kerry was attempting to answer the election question, but it's not clear whether or not he was going to answer the one on Bones...

Whatever... yeah, I also wondered why the six officers swarming him couldn't subdue him without their beloved tasers, but what do I know, I ain't no po-po...

[cboy4]

13. This is just like the UCLA incident. It's unbelievable that

so many officers couldn't get the arms of a single male behind his back.

If the person is 6-5, 290 and is swinging all over the place, that's one thing.

But this guy was on the ground, covered with officers. It's inexcusable that they couldn't take him into custody using the arrest control holds they most certainly should have learned in the academy.

[WilliamPitt]

14. Impeachment, Skull & Bones, per Associated Press report

Videos of the Monday night incident, posted on several Web sites and played repeatedly on television news, show University of Florida police officers pulling Meyer away from the microphone after he asks Kerry about impeaching President Bush and whether he and Bush were both members of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale University.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20835952/

I find it hard to believe this guy isn't a DUer already.

[parasim]

17. heh, heh...yeah, you know, he could be...

... hanging around down there in that bad ol' dungeon we got there... ya never know...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

21. AP conveniently left out the person's questioning the 2004 election and why did

Kerry concede the next day considering all of the voting irregularities. That was his first question.

Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag

[durrrty libby]

25. He was yelling questions at Kerry, but would not pause to let Kerry answer

The cops tried to push him to the back of the room

and the guy kept yelling, jumping, swinging his arms
and pulling away.


Then, the cops told him he was under arrest and the guy just continued his
behavior. So now he is resisting arrest and I believe that is when the decision was made to taser him.

I watched several videos

[DaveJ]

26. I agree that he was obnoxious...

It doesn't even seem like he really expected an answer, he just wanted to grand stand. Yeah he has free speech but do I walk into a community theater during a play, and started to put on my own. If so I would expect to get forcefully removed as well, and I wouldn't whine like a brat during the process.

[B Calm]

33. Wasn't Bush in the Skull and Bones?

[cgrindley]

34. yeah both him and kerry

kerry had shittier grades than bush at yale, too. skull and bones is very real. there are about 20 secret societies at yale. windowless, bizarre senior secret societies of which skull and bones is the most famous.

so the kid was basicallyl accusing kerry of rolling over and licking his nuts on the orders of his secret society to make sure that there was no real challenge to bush? that makes way more sense than some of the other goofy things people type around here...

fuckit, how would those mihop assholes like to be tased for writing their idiotic ramblings? or how about the kennedy conspiracy theorists. I certainly hold their mental abilities in slight regard, but I would never advocate swarming them and arresting them. even the dumb ass draft Gore crowd... I may think that they've completely discounted the reality of Gore NOT RUNNING, but I sure don't think that the police should beat them for continuing to say so.

DU has really upset me this week. but weirdly enough, I have seen some bright flashes from some like-minded people out there. I feel a lot better about some people and a lot worse about others.

[Apollo11]

35. Historical perspective

Annie Kenney, together with Christabel Pankhurst, has somewhat of a run-in with Mr Winston Churchill on 13th October 1905 in the Free Trade Hall in Manchester when she posed the question to Churchill and Sir Edward Grey, "If you are elected will you do your best to make women's suffrage a Government measure?".

http://www.iknow-northwest.co.uk/tourist_information/manchester/oldham/saddleworth.htm


Campaign for Women's suffrage continues

On 14 October, two young women decided to go to prison rather than pay a fine for causing a disturbance. Christabel Pankhurst and Annie Kenney were the first to be jailed for demanding the right to vote.

Uproar broke out at Manchester Free Trade Hall, England, when the women demanded to know if a Liberal government would give women the vote. Their protest came at the end of an election address by leading Liberal politician Sir Edward Grey, when Pankhurst and Kenney stood up and unfurled their banner, saying "Votes for Women". Their behaviour provoked an angry reaction from the crowd, who threw the two into the street, where they were arrested by police.

In 1903, Christabel Pankhurst had founded the Women's Political and Social Union with her mother Emmeline Pankhurst, the pioneer of women's suffrage. The arrest marked a new militancy in what would have been a peaceful political campaign.

http://library.thinkquest.org/27629/chronicle/1905.html


Christabel Pankhurst
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Christabel Pankhurst (September 22, 1880 – February 13, 1958) was a suffragette born in Manchester, England.

Along with her mother Emmeline and others, Christabel co-founded the Women's Social and Political Union (WSPU) in 1903. In 1905, Christabel Pankhurst interrupted a Liberal Party meeting by shouting demands for voting rights for women. She was arrested and along with fellow suffragette Annie Kenney went to prison rather than pay a fine as punishment for their outburst. Their case gained much media interest and the ranks of the WSPU swelled following their trial. Emmeline began to take more militant action for the suffragette cause after her daughter's arrest and was herself imprisoned on many occasions for her principles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christabel_Pankhurst