SHRED
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Tue Sep-18-07 10:43 PM
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My mind is changing about the draft |
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It just might take a draft to get college kids to not clap for pigs with tasers.
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Tue Sep-18-07 10:55 PM
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Let the Democratic Congress enact a draft and watch the party go down the drain for a generation.
Great plan.
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Tue Sep-18-07 10:59 PM
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2. Party loyalty at all costs I guess...oh well |
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:06 PM
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3. Loyalty to our country as well -- since the Repubs are shredding |
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the Constitution, and any of their candidates will continue on that path.
I also disagree with your basic premise. I don't think students at most colleges would have cheered that tasering. Starting a draft in the hopes that it will somehow turn them more liberal . . . just doesn't make any sense.
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:20 PM
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7. I don't think it would necessarily make the chickenhawks |
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more liberal, and I'm not personally in favor of reinstating the draft. However if it were reinstated, I think it would force at least some of them to face their own hypocrisy - something they don't have to do now. Of course if college deferments were an option, most of the kids getting drafted would be the poor ones anyway. Rich brats like Dubya would still get off the hook.
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Wed Sep-19-07 12:03 AM
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22. My college student has been out protesting the war in Iraq since |
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before it began. So have many other college students that we know.
They'd all get sucked up in any draft that the Dems were crazy enough to start.
And that would be the end of my support of the party.
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:13 PM
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4. More like loyalty to those kids |
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Who want nothing to do with the killing fields of Iraq and possibly soon Iran.
The soldiers in Iraq now all volunteered to be there, I don't see what good mandating military service will do to attempt to get voters to come around to your line of thinking.
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:19 PM
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6. People with "skin in the game" |
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Think a lot differently than those without..
Just sayin'
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:24 PM
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10. The people who need to think differently about war ... |
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... will NEVER have 'skin in the game' - their own, or their children's.
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:58 PM
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19. But the OP was about college students.. |
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That was what I was commenting on.
In WWII the elite and their kids did go to war.
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:28 PM
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13. So punish a generation of young men |
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Edited on Tue Sep-18-07 11:32 PM by tritsofme
just to prove a point?
Seems pretty sick to me.
The fact that you are even throwing this idea out there makes me believe that you are not of draft age, and that you have no children/grandchildren that are either.
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Wed Sep-19-07 12:05 AM
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23. The media doesn't cover the protests that happen |
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and consistently underestimate the number of participants.
Isn't it discouraging to go to protests and realize that no one even heard the message? Because of the media blackout? I know it is to me.
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:53 PM
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18. They "volunteered" alright |
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do you need me to explain to you the ECONOMIC and BACKDOOR draft ongoing at this time?
Damn I get tired of these right wing memes repeated on Democratic Underground
I guess since they "volunteered" we don't care if they get killed either
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Wed Sep-19-07 12:00 AM
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20. While I definitely respect their decision to serve in the armed forces |
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and understand the economic realities that may have left them feeling as if they had no other choice, I feel less sympathy for their plight than I did those young men I knew in the 70s who had no choice but to submit to military service.
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:17 PM
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5. College kids have nothing in their memory to cause them fear. |
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Like, say, daddy got drafted into Vietnam. Like mine was. But I still dont think drafting is the answer. Susan Sarandon on Colbert tonight talked about what soldiers are like once they come home, or at least tried to get the point across that war profoundly changes people. Maybe the college kids will wake up once the nightmares of the vets starts, all over again.
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:22 PM
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bring something in that most would want to get rid of?
I don't know.
I wouldn't want to see the divisiveness, but understand what you are expressing.
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:23 PM
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9. It is an expression of frustration... |
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...after seeing the taser video and the kids laughing.
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:25 PM
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:27 PM
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12. Yep, that's the ticket. |
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Send tens of thousands of unwilling, innocent parties overseas to kill, die, be maimed & psychologically scarred in a pointless war in order to teach a bunch of spoiled college kids a lesson.
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:29 PM
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14. If there was a draft the students would have been fighting over the mic |
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:30 PM
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the flame war....
I am getting my chair and turning down the lights.... Guess I'll turn on some Barry White Music 'cause I am feelin' da love...
:popcorn: :popcorn:
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:31 PM
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16. Most of us would rather fund a massive military with our taxes ... |
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... and let other people's kids go. :shrug: Gotta love "democracy." :eyes:
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Tue Sep-18-07 11:44 PM
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17. Most of Us Don't Want This War OR the Bloated Military |
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We remember the "peace dividend" quite fondly.
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Wed Sep-19-07 12:02 AM
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21. Conscription is wrong. |
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