Should Cops be able to stop public disturbances?

[bryant69]

Bryant
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[YOY]

1. Define "Public Disturbances" and you'll get some votes

There's a lot of "grey area" in there. Like someone un-popularly speaking their mind loudly or someone unnecessarily waving a loaded gun in the air in a public place.

[BostonMa]

2. From what mindset comes such a foolish question?

[donheld]

5. Welcome to DU YeOldeBostonEarl

:hi:

[Bluebear]

3. ??? Isn't that part of the job description?

What are you getting at here bryant?

[havocmom]

4. Should polls which do not include pertinent context in question/answer choices

be locked as flame-bait?

[bryant69]

10. How many people here aren't aware of the Tasering incident? n/t

[havocmom]

14. How many here have seen the whole thing and think the kid was outta line?

How many here haven't seen the whole thing and just caught the tail end of the video?

How many here have had their own free speech curtailed by uncivil idiots who think only their voice should be heard?

How many are curious about what looked like a taser used when disruptor was already down with hands behind him (was he cuffed at that point? To be honest, my ol eyes are confused on that pertinent point)

Are we talking THIS incident as a basis for what police should do in ALL incidents? Because life is not quite so easy to pigeon hole. Variables do exist. Policy cannot be wisely set based on one incident.

Like I said, poll questions/answers without context is just tossing flame-bait around.

But, I read somewhere this morning that you don't give a shit about anything today... Just bored and feel like tossing grenades around? Again, context is enlightening.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1843737&mesg_id=1843825

[bryant69]

16. Ah - so if people have come ot the wrong conclusion they haven't watched the whole t hing? n/t

[havocmom]

20. No, if people post inconsequential polls (based on stupid questions without context)

they may well be walking around with a chip on their shoulder, looking for trouble because they don't want to do anything constructive.

Or, it may just be they are bored because, as already stated, they don't give a shit about anything today?

The point of stupid questions without specifics or context on a hot topic is WHAT, exactly?

[Nailzberg]

6. Definetly not. Somone may get tased, and we can't have that

:hide:

[Canuckistanian]

7. Too broad a question

Whose idea of "disturbance" are you using?

[havocmom]

15. BINGO!

Context is important, as are definations

Without them, FLAME BAIT

Somebody must be really really bored and thinking more shit needs to be flung to post such a fucking stupid, incomplete, question.

[Rhiannon12866]

8. Depends on the disturbance.

If there is an orderly protest, like the sit-ins of the '60s or the people carrying signs that were in D.C. last weekend, I would not consider that a disturbance, or even somebody speaking out in a crowd...:-(

But if somebody is threatening other people with harm, like holding hostages or has some kind of weapon, that's what the cops are paid to stop...:shrug:

Hi, Bryant, or whoever you are today...;):hi:

[Bluebear]

11. Clearly, a group of 20 drunks setting fire to a hotel should not be broken up.

:eyes:

;)

[Rhiannon12866]

18. Well, yeah, that would be a situation where I'd call the cops myself.

Unless, as drunk people are wont to do, they were doing this in a very amusing and entertaining way...;)

[baby_mouse]

9. "Public disturbance"....

"disorderly conduct..."






"enemy combatant..."

[bryant69]

12. "total bullshit."

[baby_mouse]

13. What is? NT

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Absolutely. Just like they did at...

The Pettis Bridge
Birmingham
Oxford
Chicago '68
Berkeley
Haymarket
Ludlow, CO

And, hundreds of other places when people said, "NO!" to the system.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:OoWzPIERH2cUzM:

[SidDithers]

23. You forgot a few...

The Detroit World Series Riot in 1984


LA Lakers NBA Finals 2000


Minnesota Gophers 2003 NCAA Hockey Championship


And countless other places where people disrupt the peace for no good reason. Sometimes a riot (or a disturbance) is just a disturbance.

Sid

[in_cog_ni_to]

19. Is talking at a public town hall meeting a disturbance?

:eyes:

[havocmom]

21. Is preventing others from having their turn to speak at a public meeting a disturbance?

:shrug:

[Kelly Rupert]

22. People don't seem to understand

that "free speech" does not extend to unreasonably interfering with the free speech of others.

[wuushew]

24. How do you make such an inference?

A direct reading of the Constitution does not make such an idea self evident.

[Virginia Dare]

25. The courts interpret these things..

it's the same inference as the fact that you can't stand up in a crowded movie theater and yell "fire".

[Kelly Rupert]

26. I don't have to.

We have things called "courts" which make these inferences for us.