The Constitution vs the Declaration of Independence..

[The Vinyl Ripper]

The Constitution says that people have the right to peaceably assemble and petition for redress of grievances..

However the Declaration of Independence says:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


Have we gotten to the point where the government has become destructive of liberty yet?

[indepat]

1. The current system is too broken to be fixed imo: the corruption and venality just run too deep

[Romulox]

2. America won't end with a bang, imo, it will end with a whimper...

I think we are witnessing the beginnings of that collapse now, both literally and figuratively. If you follow European news, there has been a lot of talk of the French and Dutch speaking portions of Belgium ceasing to consider themselves part of the same country.

I think some similar regional split is in the future of the US--the various regions simply have too diverse of interests to continue on as a monolith, and the crack up is beginning. All it takes is a natural disaster or infrastructure failure (e.g. Katrina, black out of 2004) for the extremely thin veneer of national strength to fall away...

[melm00se]

3. One is

the basis for the US government, the other was a statement of intent against a tyrannical government.

there is a clear difference between the 2.