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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:08 AM
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'Clinton is advocating the Marie Antoinette approach to health care'
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PM Tuesday, September 18, 2007

Clinton Health Plan

DAVID HIMMELSTEIN, M.D., david_himmelstein@hms.harvard.edu,
http://www.pnhp.org
Himmelstein is associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical
School. He said today: "Hillary Clinton is combining two failed
Massachusetts plans: the Dukakis plan, which fell
apart 20 years ago, and the Romney plan, which is in the
process of falling apart.
"Clinton is advocating the Marie Antoinette approach to health care:
'Let them buy their own coverage.'She is attempting to force middle
class families to buy coverage without making it affordable.
Clinton
wants to keep the private insurance industry in the middle of the
system." Himmelstein is co-founder of Physicians for a National Health
Program.

QUENTIN YOUNG, M.D., info@pnhp.org, http://www.pnhp.org
Young is national coordinator of Physicians for a National Health
Program. He said: "It's always ironic to hear Clinton talk about
standing up to the insurance companies. She'd tried to work them into
her plan , which is a large part of why it failed. The
biggest insurance companies actually backed her plan for a time while
the smaller ones opposed it."

For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy:
Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; or David Zupan, (541) 484-9167.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:10 AM
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1. Just like no-fault auto, it will make the insurance companies wealthy[ier]...
Get ready for non-stop Geico/E-surance/Allstate style media blitz under Hill's plan. Insurance corporation awash in cash from government mandated insurance programs have lots of $$$ to spend on commercials.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:17 AM
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6. I can't imagine how any self-respecting Democrat would think this was a good plan.
This is taking the country deeper into the Second Gilded Age. Someone needs to get it into Hillary and Bill's head that we're looking for deliverance from Bushism, not acquiescence to it.

Please Al, save us!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:11 AM
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2. Sadly, I agree.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:12 AM
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3.  Romney mandated choice health insurance here in Massachusetts
Because I am 60 the premium is $10500/year, or about 17% of my part-time work income.

The state can therefore shove their mandate where the sun does not shine, because I'm not paying. First the government takes away my guaranteed for life free health care benefits, and then they have the balls to turn around and tell me it's illegal not to have health insurance so cough up or we will fine you!

Shove Hillary's Health Care plan. It's a carbon copy rip-off of Mountain Meadows Mitt's plan for health insurance bankruptcy.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:15 AM
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4. let 'em cake!!! that way they can be obese and develop diabetes
and be even more in debt to us :rofl:

king george is planning to crown queen hillary in a coronation of pomp and fanfare the world has NEVER seen ;)
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:20 AM
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7. Of course, Marie Antoinette never said "let them eat cake,"
anymore than Gore said he invented the internet.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:57 AM
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8. ~
:eyes: shootin' for a duzy, missed badly. :yoiks:
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 09:17 AM
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5. Listen to the good doctor Hillary!
Your plan is an appeasement to the Health care insurance industry.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:20 AM
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9. Throw Diebold and ES&S election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!
That's how the Corporate Rulers are shoving all this fascist crap down our throats--from the war to credit card usury, from torture to multiple tax cuts for the rich, from domestic spying and "impeachment is off the table," to five billionaire CEOs controlling all news and opinion on our public airwaves, and it's going to be the same with Emperor Hillary. We have no control of our government any more, and no hope of regaining control through elections, because we have lost the right to vote--the final corporate 'coup de gras' to our democracy.

With vote counting that everyone could see and understand, we still had a chance to influence policy. We've proved that we can out-fundraise and out-organize and out-vote the fascists. We are the majority, 56% of whom opposed the Iraq War in Feb. 03, and 63% of whom opposed torture "under any circumstances" in May '04, and 70% to 90% of whom have opposed virtually every Bush policy over four years' time, and who elected John Kerry in 2004 to change the course of the nation. We are the great, peace-minded, justice-minded, progressive American majority that has been here all along. But with rightwing Bushite corporations now controlling election outcomes, with "TRADE SECRET," PROPRIETARY programming code in all the new electronic voting systems that were fast-tracked into place for the 2004 and 2006 (s) elections, we have no chance. They can tweak close elections--one insider hacker, a couple of minutes, leaving no trace, that's all it takes--or outright reverse big leftist wins with the public having no right whatsoever to review the secret code. Thus, they can shape Congress overall, as a fascist tool, and combine the filthy money around presidential elections, Time magazine nomination of our candidate, and Diebold/ES&S secret vote counting to retain fascist control of the White House.

The linchpin of fascist control is the "trade secret" vote counting. We MUST knock it out. It is still doable at the state/local level--and it may be a long hard struggle to restore the most fundamental condition of democracy--transparent vote counting--or it may snowball as a movement, because it is such a no-brainer. But we MUST do it! If we give nothing else to future generations, we must give them this: restoration of their right to vote!

Diebold/ES&S "trade secret" vote counting WAS the fascist coup. Both parties were in on it, and still are. WAKE UP!
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