REPUBLICANS BLOCK Restoration of Habeas Corpus!

[berni_mccoy]

Let's be clear. It was a vote for cloture with 56 Yay, 43 Nay. The Republicans are filibustering a vote on restoring Habeas Corpus, WHICH WOULD PASS if voted upon.

The TRUE American Congressmen were short by 4 votes. The Fascists win this battle (and that is all it is). They will not succeed in destroying the Constitution.

But it's also CLEAR that the Republicans don't believe in the CONSTITUTION. The Republicans WANT A FASCIST STATE.

Spread the word!

[bullimiami]

1. little boots would have vetoed it anyway.

[Hydra]

9. Yeah, there's no way he would give up that little toy

"You mean I can arrest people without charge and they can't say s*** about it?? Sign me up!"
Our Furless Leader

[dickbearton]

39. The Criminal Bush...

And the rat bastard Republican's are marching right out of
Hitler's Nazi Germany.

[valerief]

2. I hate our government. There, I've said. I really, really hate these cornholes. nt

[bullimiami]

29. hard to have any disagreement with that statement.

[Jim__]

3. What I don't understand is before the election of 2006, if the Dems even ...

mentioned filibuster, the media was all over them calling them obstructionists. Where is the media outrage at all of this repuke filibustering critical issues?

[MelissaB]

4. That's a damn good question!

[iamthebandfanman]

8. youre darn right they did

EVERYTIME...
but you know , its probably because they had republicans on all the time whining about how the democrats were wasting time and standing in the way of the work of the congress...

perhaps we need to be out there doing the same when they threaten such things against us...

[unblock]

10. yeah, i'm sure foxnews is just hopping to get vocal democrats on the air...

[iamthebandfanman]

14. why should we appeal to the sheep watching fox ?

there are other cable news outletts you know

[unblock]

15. we don't own them either.

oh sure, we can get on the daily show and olberman can have a nice rant, but our ability to get the message out is NOT solely at the discretion of democratic politicians. obvious or not, those who control the medium control the message.

[dickbearton]

42. The fox sheep are nazi enablers...

If not outright fascists.

[Junkdrawer]

12. The term "obstructionist" only applies to those "obstructing" the Imperial agenda...

You know, the "The $30 trillion of oil in Iraq is belonging to us" agenda.

Get with the program.

[IronLionZion]

19. That's the liberal media for you

I wish more "conservatives" would boycott the liberal media and just turn it off...you know since it's so damn liberal and all.

[NancyBreen]

40. Maybe MoveOver dot com should place another

ad. That at least gets noticed.

[robinlynne]

5. Yesterday they only had 51. So our phone calls did help somewhat.

[robinlynne]

6. Why couldn't they let the filibuster happen, and keep on asking for cloture till they

got it? Besides, a filibuster, discussing habeus wouldn't be a bad thing.

[Junkdrawer]

13. Ummm...because this was a show for our benefit?

:shrug:

[Gabi Hayes]

45. EXACTLY, and because of this:

Ecce Achordata

[rosesaylavee]

7. I hope Reid brings this to a vote every week

until it passes. Could he do that?

[robinlynne]

22. Could have kept on doing it today, in my opinion. Bush did that over and over.

Remember/ With the all repub congress, they just kept on going till the vote went as they wanted it. They never gave up after one miserable little vote.

[rosesaylavee]

23. Thanks... will give him a call to make that suggestion. n/t

[Froward69]

34. I second that motion!!!

second

[sarge43]

11. Just for the record, the Republicans who voted for cloture.

Hagel (NE), Lugar (IN), Smith (OR), Snow (ME), Specter (PA), Sununu (NH).

[rucognizant]

43. I couldn't even get through!

To Snowe's office. I did get through to Collins, they are uncertain it is necessary because they THINK (NOT) it doesn't affect American Citizens???????????????
Does anyone in this state have an IQ over 90?
The Bangor Daily News bloggers have turned away from the viscious, disagreement over the Extreme House makeover to EEEEEEKKK Politics.
Impeach Baldacci he's ruining the state?
Keep Collins she's done so much for the state? ( Have any of them tried to declare bankruptcy lately?) How many have lost loved ones to the invasion & occupancy?
ANd that Tom ALLen..............he's a commie at least . He has shirked his duty by missing 100 votes in congress See we're paying him to do nothing! ( Isn't not voting a valid choice too?) especially in the 109th congress!
I'm terrified! Not of terrorists but of my fellow voters! Unequal tho they may be, they DO get to pull the lever!SEE The country is founded on a lie! All men are created equal. Should read ALl men should recieve equal opportunity.
And that's not working very well either at this point!

[druidqueen]

58. Maine congressional team

I always contact Senators Snowe & Collins as well as Congressperson Tom Allen. I can't say too many bad things about Allen...case in point...three years ago (in October) when there was a shortage of flu vaccine, my husband who has lung cancer in BOTH lungs & is also in the late stages of advanced emphysema, needed to get a flu shot. At that time no private physicians were receiving any flu vaccine & the only way to get a flu shot was to go to one of the very FEW flu shot clinics scheduled. My husband went to several here in southern Maine, arriving two hours before they were to begin, but was turned away & not even allowed to park by the local police. Obviously, my husband is in the high risk category - a bout of flu would definitely kill him. I immediately e-mailed all of the Maine congressional team. (I didn't expect a response form Collins --- she has NEVER answered any of the many e-mails I have sent her on various issues....Medicare, the War etc.) Tom Allen responded in 24 hours with an 800 number for my husband to give his physician (His doctor was not even aware of the number). The doctor called and found out that there was ONE dose of vaccine left at York Hospital & they would put it aside for my husband. My husband was more than willing to drive the 25 miles to the hospital, but because of the intervention of Tom Allen, a visiting nurse was at our house in less than 30 minutes!!! Oh, by the way, Sen. Snowe did respond...the following MAY with a list of flu clinics that had taken place the previous October ---- the same ones from which my husband was turned away!!!

At least, most, if not all Democrats seem to be caring people!!!! Can't say that about the Repukes!!!

[CanonRay]

16. Now THIS should make a good ad!

If there's anything worth making them filibuster, it's this.

[Marr]

17. They need to be forced to actually filibuster every time.

And make them keep it going this time, don't just do a little show and then roll over. And if they succeed, reintroduce the same thing next week.

These Republicans will eventually give up and go back to their men's rooms or whatever.

[iamasmadashell2]

35. These repukes will evenyually go back to their mens room!

Everyone except Sen. Craig [R-Id.} the word is out that he is now wearing one of those NASA diapers.

[roguevalley]

18. vote list please. I am sure our repobates are on it.

[sarge43]

20. Long list

http://www.senate.gov

Then go to Legislation and Records, then Votes (left hand column), the cloture vote is the first listed.

[cosmicdot]

44. the roll call vote

Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Specter Amdt. No. 2022 )

Vote Number: 340 Vote Date: September 19, 2007, 10:47 AM

Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Cloture Motion Rejected

Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 2022 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008)

Statement of Purpose: To restore habeas corpus for those detained by the United States.

Vote Counts:

YEAs 56
NAYs 43
Not Voting 1

YEAs ---56

Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE) - even Ben voted right
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Sununu (R-NH)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)


The List of Traitors

NAYs ---43

Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

Not Voting - 1

Chambliss (R-GA)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00340

[Kazak]

21. Nu-cu-lar option?

Might be time to invoke that sucker! :)

[high density]

24. Up or down vote, Republics!!

Remember how much you like those up or down votes?!

[progressoid]

25. Republicans AND Joementum blocked it.

Oh, wait, Joe=Republican so, yeah, Republicans blocked it.

[moondust]

26. They hate freedom.

Except when it comes to their own which they believe must be unlimited.

[redqueen]

27. GMTA!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1845046

:toast:

[berni_mccoy]

30. Yes, they do. And I didn't like the thread that had been going on about this topic

So I started a new one with a better title. :-D

You beat me to it though. DU is funny sometimes the way threads drop off the radar.

[Kajsa]

28. Damn!

Reid has got to keep the pressure on them!

We can't lose this one!

[cooolandrew]

31. Very little will get done between here and 09 when a sane president takes office...

... It's very simple it's all about the votes till there is at least 60 in the senate and good slice more in the house very little will get passed or move forward. The simple top and bottom of it they are keeping bush in power till enough Americans understand what is going on. Those extra seat are essential to move america forward following 08.

[lovuian]

32. Poof positive Republicans are the Third Reich

truly Evil

this is what causes revolutions

Shame on them Shame

[Disturbed]

33. Republicans WANT A FASCIST STATE.

Maybe that is because they are Fascists?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

36. Damn, this government needs to be cleansed

cleansed of violation of people's right
cleansed of torture allowing the raping of children to make parent prisoners speak

etc

[earth mom]

37. Any lawyers out there know if there's a way to sue these bastards into following the Constitution?

Something has to be done and soon! Or bye bye United States of America!

[Clintonista2]

38. Can we give the dems some tasers?

[mzmolly]

41. But "there is no difference"

right? Tweedle dum and tweedle .... somebody. :shrug:

Another day, another disaster - sadly.

[hurricaneric]

46. Agreed!

the Republicans need to be labeled as the obstructionists they are. they've been fillibustering every real reform the Democrats attempt to make. Infuriating!

[Danger Mouse]

47. All Republicans...except Lieberman.

The unprincipled swine.

[kenfrequed]

59. Huh

Has that DLC scumbag even attempted to explain why he voted this way? Is he that much a flunky for Bush?

[goforit]

48. Ya need to do a little bit more than just spread the word.

[minnesota_liberal]

49. Voting with the Fascists: Coleman (MN) and Lieberman (CT)

Minnesota is getting rid of Coleman in 2008 and I'll do what I can to see that Lieberman has to find a new job in 2012.

[appalachianguy]

50. GOP well on the way to "total" control

Taking habeas corpus out of our "Constitution"
devalues society as we knew it.
The whole discussion has been deluted by GOP ground control
and they have
largely been unchallenged on the issue because most of the
persons who are
affected by the change are either immigrants, supposed
terrorists or  international suspects.      

AppGuy

[WinstonSmith4740]

51. I'm writing to John Ensign right now...

Can anybody give me the date (or any info) about the time Junior declared "this job would be a lot easier if it was a dictatorship, as long as I was the dictator"? I'm including it, but want to be able to quote chapter and verse as it were.:banghead:
Thanks!!

[provis99]

52. I din't know Ensign could read

Seriously, I'd rather have an illiterate caveman in office than a troglodyte like Ensign.

[WinstonSmith4740]

54. Tell me about it...

I've got a double whammy here. Not only do I have to deal with Ensign, my rep is Jon Porter. If those two had their lips any firmer on Junior's ass, they'd be Joe Lieberman.

[NewJeffCT]

62. December 18, 2000

GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH (R-TX), PRESIDENT-ELECT: I told all four that there were going to be some times where we don't agree with each other. But that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html

[defendandprotect]

53. Dems should pound on this because I think public understands "habeas corpus" --- !!!!

[BeliQueen]

60. And they would...

if the media weren't so obsessed with OJ Simpson, and who is his new girlfriend, and doesn't she look so much like Nicole, and blah blah blah

Good God I'm going to be sick!

[FREEWILL56]

55. Gee, what a surprize

being it was republicons that took it away from us in the first place. I really pray for some good new leadership to oust the scumbags in our government in all branches and aspects of it.

[opihimoimoi]

56. Shameful, despicable behavior on Pubs Part...Lacking of "What is Right"

What is Best for Common Interest....???? The Pubs don think that way....they focus of ME and Greed.

[Maxdee55]

57. Fascist Republicans

Funny when the Republicans controlled the Senate they were all for up and down votes and ending filibusters. No longer does the Republican party stand for democracy and the Constitution, they shill for corporate America, serve the wealthy, while trying to build a fascist state. In the meantime in order to mask their intentions they sell fear to the American people, as they pour $trillions into exotic weapons that cannot stop a terrorist armed with a box cutter. President Eisenhower warned against this almost 50 years ago, clearly if the Republicans are put back in power, America will move further and further away from democracy until it no longer exists.

[NewJeffCT]

61. Sounds like we should write Letters to the Editors of our local papers

Asking why those 43 Republicans hate the Constitution and the rule of law?

Or, was it 42 Republicans and Lieberman?

Their response will be, "Lincoln did it and he is considered a great president." So, we should take the pre-emptive action of saying that while Lincoln did suspend habeus corpus, that was during a civil war that involved hundreds of thousands of soldiers on the soil of the United States of America.

[TechBear_Seattle]

63. So the Republickers can filibuster, but the Democrats can not?

:puke: