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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:32 PM
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http://www.theandrewmeyer.com/columns/iraq_the_media_and_shannons_dad.asp

Iraq, the media, and Shannon's Dad
By The Andrew Meyer
Sunday, July 15, 2007

We hear it on the news almost everyday.

"At least 18 people were killed when two car bombs exploded in a busy market…”

It happens so frequently at this point that we have become desensitized to the message.

“Eleven more died when a minibus blew up in the Karrada district, while a suicide attack…”

Iraq is thousands of miles away from the United States. When a suicide bomber strikes in the middle of a crowded Baghdad street, leaving mayhem and carnage in his wake, America is largely unaffected. The only thing we hear in the States is the same tired story. Yeah, yeah, suicide bomber, 20-something dead, we’ve heard this one before. But in Baghdad, no one is “over” these attacks. Every new bombing is a deadly and frightening jolt, a senseless thunderbolt of destruction bringing the city to its knees and death to its inhabitants. Yet we in America are so far removed from Iraq, so jaded to the tales of violence in its streets, perhaps the only time we truly feel the human cost of the War in Iraq is when it hits close to home.

Shannon Timmann is a friend of mine. On January 7, 2006, her father was killed outside of Mosul, the biggest city in northern Iraq. He was in one of two Black Hawk helicopters that lost contact with base. “Human error in a storm,” they called it. They don’t know what happened. The helicopters just went down. They just crashed.
In exchange for the life of her husband, Shannon’s mom received this letter from the government:


“Dear Mrs. Timmann:

I extend my heartfelt condolences on the death of your husband. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. I am grateful for Robert’s service to our nation and to the Department of State. His dedication and bravery should serve as an example to us all.

Sincerely,

Condoleeza Rice.”

Nice words from our Secretary of State. But that is all they are. Words. Nothing can bring back Shannon’s father, nor the 3,566 other Americans who have died in Iraq to date.

I asked Shannon what she thought of the letter sent from our government. She said it was nice, but, “I mean ….but how many of those do they send a week? It’s just copy.”

Shannon had another letter, sent to her from the Iraqi chief of police. It was heartfelt, and genuinely saddened for the loss that Shannon and the world would feel from Bob’s death.

I watched a video that Bob Timmann filmed in Iraq before he died. He was a good man, and he believed that America was doing good work in Iraq. But what exactly are we accomplishing over there? America invaded Iraq on false pretenses, bogus intelligence that Saddam had WMDs and links to al-Qaeda.

When Cho Seung-Hui killed 32 people on the Virginia Tech campus, it was like a knee to the stomach of Americans across the country. It was the only story on the news for days, and everyone felt affected, whether they had family or friends at Virginia Tech or not.

If 32 Americans died in a bombing in Iraq today, would the media give the story the full-court press that Virginia Tech got? Would every kid on facebook change his or her picture to a ribbon with the message “We support our troops”?

The story would get lumped in with every other Iraq story, mentioned for a day, and then swept under the rug and forgotten.

Virginia Tech was a tragedy, but you can see that death toll almost everyday in Iraq. And for what? For democracy in Iraq? As if anyone in the U.S. government really cares about the Iraqi people? We are there to make money for Vice President Cheney’s corporation, Halliburton. We are there for oil. When insurgents or terrorists or whatever you want to call them blow something up in Iraq, and kill Americans, its not big news – for a reason. The powers that be do not want a true audit of the War in Iraq, and the cowed American media is more than happy to accommodate them. More than anything, the mainstream media is part of the problem. Now here’s a real tragedy - what it takes to get play in the mainstream media. Billions of dollars are missing from the department of defense, eight U.S. attorney generals were fired in an unprecedented political coup, and the biggest news stories of the year are Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith.

It’s enough to make you think about what the real goal of the news is. Is it to keep the populace as educated and up-to-date on America and world affairs as possible, or is the news like any other business, with the chief goal to make money. The news is designed to keep viewers watching and sedated and not thinking bad thoughts about America, because that would be bad for the economy. Stories about a severely unbalanced budget are out, train wrecks like Paris and Anna are in. A train wreck may be senseless and pointless, but Americans sure do love to watch.

Is it “news” when a toddler accidentally drowns in Lake Michigan? It’s a tragedy, to be sure, but does it affect the world as much as, say, the decisions of the U.S. Federal Reserve, which drastically affects the value of money? The news is a crock of spit, mostly of the bull variety. People need to stop assaulting their brains with garbage, and start educating themselves with books.

If you truly want knowledge on the world around you, try picking up a book. The great thing about books? They have authors who have to do months of research, and actually know exactly what they are talking about. (Unless the author is Bill O’Reilly or Sean Hannity, in which case they can say whatever they want because their audience is a bunch of self-deluded ignoramuses who want to be told what they think they already know.)

Do you care about what’s going on in Iraq? Do you want to know the truth? Start reading. Just now, I typed “Iraq Book” into google and found this: Target Iraq: What the News Media Didn't Tell You. Without even reading this book, I can all but guarantee you that this book has more information than every news story NBC, ABC, and CBS did in 2003, when invading Iraq was still up for debate.

“Deftly separating truth from propaganda, Target Iraq is a hard-hitting expose of the harsh realities and consequences of the pending war and the media's failure to present the full spectrum of issues to the public.”

Why wasn’t this stuff on the news? It isn’t necessarily corporate malfeasance hiding facts. Maybe they just think critical reasoning and big words and knowledge will drive away viewers. Whatever the case, the war in Iraq is still going on, and most of America still doesn’t know why we went there in the first place, or what we’re doing now to get out.

Americans might not care, like when they hear about “just another bombing” in Baghdad, but I’ll bet you a Prius that if Iraq was negatively affecting the price of gas, people would start to give a damn. Maybe they’ll care next time around, when Bush starts talking about “consequences” for Iran. You know, one of two “Axis of Evil” countries that actually has nukes? The one that’s secretly funding the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip? Maybe Iran should start getting some attention. If only they were run by a millionaire debutante famous for nipple slips and a sex tape. Then they might even be news-worthy.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:36 PM
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1. Only polite dissent is allowed.
No speaking out in public. No trying to get on the news. Please, dear leader, taser all those who disturb our tranquility. Taser Code Pink. Taser Cindy Sheehan. Taser them all, and perhaps, in the bliss of the taser, they too will learn to love dear leader.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:43 PM
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2. I honestly do not know what kind of ruckus he made prior to questioning
Edited on Wed Sep-19-07 12:46 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
Kerry. Perhaps he appeared to be a loose cannon and the police thought he was a physical danger, I don't know until all the evidence comes in, but my take on Meyer is this.
He wanted his questions "out there" and didn't care how the heck he did it. I just spoke to a friend who personally knows 3 witness and she was told that he rushed the front of the line. When you do that, you have to accept the consequence of your actions, as with all acts of civil disobedience. Cindy knows that, Code Pink knows that, Ray McGovern knows that. I don't believe that tasering should have been a consequence. From accounts I've heard, he was already cuffed when they tasered him. Meanwhile, there is a contingent here on DU that believe that he wasn't even tasered.
That said,

I decided to visit his website and found this article, which IMHO is very thoughtful.
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RangerRK Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:54 PM
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3. I think this is well written
I would like his questions answered as well.
We should continue to pursue them,
and Kerry should willingly come forth to offer the answers.

Kerry said he read Palast's book- why is he not speaking out about the 2004 election?
Why isn't he introducing legislation for hand counted paper ballots in the Senate?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:27 PM
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5. His question about the 2004 election has been asked 100s upon 100s of times on DU.
We had a forum here on DU that I actively participated on in regard to that election and those questions were asked all the time.

When Kerry conceded the next morning I was in tears. I knew that it was stolen from him and had hoped he would pursue a recount. Not for himself, but for each and every disenfranchised voter. When he conceded I really believed that he deliberately took a fall. Here was a man with millions of dollars stashed away and a huge team of lawyers chomping at the bit to go into a recount, and he folded. Meyer was distrustful of that as I have been and that's why he asked about Skull and Bones. Skull and Bones is anything but another Frat.

And yes, why isn't he introducing legislation to make sure this never happens again? Excellent question.

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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:56 PM
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4. You really don't get much choice about accepting a tasering applied to you.
But I get a choice about accepting that he was tasered. I find it unacceptable. I find it unacceptable that the police were controlling who was speaking and how they should speak. I am amazed at those here who do not understand where we are headed but are instead within the bounds of the parody in my previous post.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:29 PM
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6. I don't believe the police were in control of who could speak. If you watch the video again
there were two men in suits and ties standing there, and I believe that they might have been giving the cues.

And tasering IMHO is torture.
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:29 PM
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7. Yes, lots of people are calling this guy a nut
You know, I think he's a patriot. For this young man to stand up and ask valid questions takes
a lot of courage and sure, he may not have come off perfectly, but he's angry and perhaps he let
it show because sometimes it's plainly difficult to control rage. It was his chance to ask Senator Kerry questions that had been bothering him for years. How many of us actually get that opportunity or just sit and vent through our keyboards?

Fox News is defending the tazering. Does that tell you anything at all? Kill the messenger and
allow a police state to completely take over. The brainwashing just continues and I cannot believe
how many on this site could justify the actions of the police just because Senator Kerry was
involved.

Thank you for posting what that nut job wrote.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:57 PM
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10. And I think he is afraid too. Notice at the end of the article he mentions Iran?One of his questions
to Kerry was concerning Impeachment and his fear about our going to war with Iran. This is a very real fear. The war drums are beating strongly. Questions asked of Patraeus last week during the hearings left me without a doubt. Although I haven't doubted it since I learned about PNAC some five years ago. Iran is next on the hit list.

And there is real rage. There are times when I seethe here with anger and frustration seeing our country becoming more and more of a totalitarian state and I am just a keyboard jockey and honestly have not put my boots on the ground. I admire this young man for having the nerve to ask what he asked, and if he had to be "boorish" in order to do it. So be it. There is a point when nice and polite isn't going to cut it. We all have tried that with our endless emails and phone calls to our representatives, and what do we get? We get the Fourth Amendment slashed with the FISA Amendement, We get habeus corpus slammed down, and bet your bottom dollar, the war will be continued to be financed. Consolidation of media just keeps going on. etc etc etc

As to tasers. IMHO, they are torture.

BTW..it also seems that anything about a polite whisper is considered a rant these days. It all started with Howard Dean's "screaming", has carried on to Al Gore talking passionately.. and the beat goes on...
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:45 PM
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8. Thank you for posting this
People on DU are talking about his web site in a disparaging way, yet none of those people have mentioned a thing about his political writing (of course! because the whole point is to dismiss him as an asshole!) I mentioned in a few of those threads that he has written against the war and Bush in his college newspaper. But, some people will believe what they want to believe and they will twist the truth to get others to join "their side."
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 02:21 PM
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12. Frankly, I was very surprised to find this article at his site after I heard
about what an "attention whore" he was reported to be. If you look at his site you will also find a link to a 9/11 video.

I think there are other forces at work here. It seems that there is a large contingent of people posting about Meyer who are deliberately making this about Kerry. This stirs up the loyalties of Kerry supporters, my candidate right or wrong against the rest of us who question everything.

But this is far greater than about Kerry. It is about a person who appears to see something very wrong happening with our government and he wants to shout out in order to stop it. He was pointing out some glaring issues, asked questions of Kerry that I Would Love To Ask. Perhaps he is a grandstander who wants attention but I think at the same time he has a political conscience.
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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 01:49 PM
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9. Just an example: Christopher Hitchens
I generally admire this guy because his arguements are beyond the usual flag waving mumbo-jumbo that most people resort to arguing for the Iraq war, however.... I'm a bit puzzled. He's an atheist, so he doesn't even believe that brave men and women who die serving their country have a special place in God's heart. So... what exactly does he believe? Why doesn't he go over there and throw his life away for what he believes in? That's my beef with him, I don't understand how he can take a pro-Iraq war position when he's asking other people to throw away their lives for what will be a lost cause. Throw away their lives at a tender young age. Some of these kids haven't even drank a beer, gotten laid, let alone got maried or see their own kids grow up.

You can agree that Islamic extremism is a greatest threat to the Western world, but Iraq is a tactical error, there were no large masses of Muslim extremists there, threatening the US before we invaded that country, and even if there is some "good" to killing Hussein and riding the world of another Baath party holdout, should Americans bear the brunt of that cost? I don't think so. The best he can do is trump up stuff about Klinghoffer's killer is dead and Saddam can't send money to suicide bombers in the West Bank. Is that suppossed to console the families of the 4,000 dead American soldiers?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 02:02 PM
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11. Thank you for your post. IMHO in regard to Hitchens, the "darkside" got to him. He was either paid
Edited on Wed Sep-19-07 02:02 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
off or is being blackmailed. I still cannot believe that the man who wrote The Trials of Henry Kissenger has joined with the same dark forces willingly.

As to my opinions of Islamic extremists.. I do believe that there are but I also believe that some of them are working for those same "dark forces", stirring the pot.
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