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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:36 PM
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HOLY Crap !!! -
Edited on Wed Sep-19-07 10:40 PM by WillyT


Army testing soldiers’ brains before deployment
Results may help doctors treat returning vets with traumatic brain injuries

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FORT CAMPBELL, Ky. - Before they leave for Iraq, thousands of troops with the 101st Airborne Division line up at laptop computers to take a test: basic math, matching numbers and symbols, and identifying patterns. They press a button quickly to measure response time.

It’s all part of a fledgling Army program that records how soldiers’ brains work when healthy, giving doctors baseline data to help diagnose and treat the soldiers if they suffer a traumatic brain injury — the signature injury of the Iraq war.

“This allows the Army to be much more proactive,” said Lt. Col. Mark McGrail, division surgeon for the 101st. “We don’t want to wait until the soldier is getting out of the Army to say, ’But I’ve had these symptoms.”’

The mandatory brain-function tests are starting with the 101st at Fort Campbell and are expected to spread to other military bases in the next couple of months. Commanders at each base will decide whether to adopt the program.

The tests provide a standard, objective measurement for each soldier’s reaction time, their short-term memory and other cognitive skills. That data would be used when the soldiers come home to identify mild brain trauma that can often go unnoticed and untreated.

One veterans group wants to ensure the Army doesn’t use the results to deny treatment by claiming that soldiers’ problems came from pre-existing conditions.

“We certainly think these tests should not be used to reduce the responsibility that the Army has to treat the soldiers who have served,” said Jason Forrester, director of policy for Veterans for America.

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Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20876109/

I'm absolutely nauseated by my own country.

:puke:

Onedit: Vote Here-> Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20877905/
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:40 PM
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1. 'Occupation' isn't worth it-read this:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 10:41 PM
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2. Thank You !!!
I'm just flabbergasted.

:banghead:
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:42 AM
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13. Thanks, much more informative. n/t
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:34 PM
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3. These tests should be done on Bush
No telling what you won't find.

Incredible.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:36 PM
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4. Who ARE we any more?
This is a way to deny benefits. That's all it is.

But, BushCo "supports" the troops. :sarcasm:
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iwillalwayswonderwhy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:48 AM
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6. Yep
Wouldn't surprise me. "Your willingness to fight in this war proves you were already brain-damaged."

Catch-22.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 11:52 PM
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5. If they're really stupid they get promoted to commander in chief
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:39 AM
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7. They will be used to deny treatment. What other use is there?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:53 AM
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8. They're using reaction time tests?
Geez, how fucked up is that. That in no way measures a person's brain performance, neither SRT, DRT or CRT. This is meaningless bullshit testing designed for what? That's the question now. . .
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:53 AM
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9. my question is
what percentage of brain function loss will be "acceptable" to deny claims of Trauma?

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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:56 AM
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10. A simple CT scan and MRI can do that....but a computer test? This is fishy.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:58 AM
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11. If it keeps them from being denied services for "pre-existing conditions"
GOOD!

There's a shameful history of returning vets being denied help for PTSD on claims that they had problems before they deployed.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:07 AM
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12. Seems Like A Pretty Smart Idea Actually.
Hopefully they use it appropriately and don't use it for the wrong reasons, but right now I don't see any reason to believe they would. So on its face, I support it fully.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 09:11 AM
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14. Here's a smarter idea:
If they demonstrate deficiencies in short-term memory and other cognitive skills maybe they shouldn't be sent into combat.

What a racket!
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