RiverStone
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:28 PM
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Are you a member of the "Democratic Base"? |
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I'm not sure anymore what the base of the party is, where it is located, and who is in it.
Are you? :shrug:
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:30 PM
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1. According to some, yes. Others, no. nt. |
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:31 PM
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2. I guess not. I'm not that die-hard. I'm a Democrat mostly because |
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I'm not a Republican. But I'm too far right to be "the base".
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:33 PM
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5. You're right, not left? Or do you think you're correct? nt |
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Thu Sep-20-07 01:11 AM
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26. I'm a rightward-leaning, somewhat conservative Dem--I guess the base |
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would be the left side of the party.
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:31 PM
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3. since I've never voted for anyone other than a Dem in 36 years of voting, i say yes |
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:32 PM
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4. I consider myself a pragmatic member of the Democratic base. nt |
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:17 AM
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36. That's a good way of putting it. Me, too! n/t |
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:34 PM
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6. I'm a member, because the alternative is so infinitely worse. nt |
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:35 PM
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7. "I'm Not A Member Of An Organized Political Party... |
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Edited on Wed Sep-19-07 11:36 PM by MannyGoldstein
...instead, I'm a Democrat" - Will Rogers Actually, I'm a Liberal. Even an http://blueworksbetter.com/EisenhowerFlamingLiberal">Eisenhower Republican is OK by me.
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:56 PM
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14. Lol! Any club that would have me needs reorganizing. |
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Thu Sep-20-07 01:32 AM
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28. The 'old' Groucho Marx line.... |
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"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."
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Thu Sep-20-07 01:50 PM
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40. That's right. I tried unsuccessfully to merge it into |
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the other quotation.
But, it's still probably true. lol
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:46 PM
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8. Clinton leads the polls, if thats the base, Im far from it. |
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:49 PM
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9. No. I am a member of the Green Party. |
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I think that all Progressives should join it. :-)
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:54 PM
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The MSM refers to "the base" supporting HRC |
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Edited on Wed Sep-19-07 11:58 PM by RiverStone
I don't know those people - none of my Dems friends (or myself) are members of the base using an "affinity for Clinton" as a barometer. I do feel a connect with the The Congressional Progressive Caucus - they seem to reflect my views within the party - but I'm not sure they represent the base (or what the MSM defines as the base). http://cpc.lee.house.gov/index.cfm?SectionID=2&ParentID=0&SectionTypeID=2&SectionTree=2
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:50 PM
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10. No. Your laws prevent citizens from other countries from voting in US elections. |
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Metaphorically speaking, the answer is still no. I'm prefer real liberals, not pretend ones.
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:52 PM
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11. Hmm...Al Quaida MEANS "The Base".... |
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....are you implying I may be one of them "Democratic Al Quaida" types the Repubs keep complainin' about??? Well-you MIGHT be right...
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:54 PM
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but if support for a nominee hrc is required...then, no.
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:54 PM
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13. As long as it's not Zell Miller, we're heading in a good direction. |
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Parties change. Platforms get tweaked, tossed out, added anew, amended, and so forth.
History lays down its hand on the poker table and the parties respond. It's more that way than the other way around.
Lincoln's Republican Party ain't Jeff Sessions' Republican Party.
Strom Thurmond began as a Democrat.
I don't think he and Paul Wellstone would have shared a common worldview.
Beats me who the "base" is exactly. Demographics aside, I think it's the more adaptable among those with influence rather than a particular income group or world-view population.
And History is usually the one with the foresight.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:03 AM
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16. Pretty much what I think, but you got here first. n/t |
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:05 AM
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17. TreasonousBastard, you're there first on a hell of a lot of stuff around this |
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place.
I'll buy you a cyber beer that says so, too.
:toast:
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Wed Sep-19-07 11:58 PM
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15. The Democratic Party doesn't have a base anymore |
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I becomne more convinced of that sad truth every day.
They are a hologram of an opposition party, and I begin to suspect that in many ways they are a subsidiary of the Bushies, and one day will be one in fact.
Therefore, and considering that 74% of Americans have 0% representation, and considering that the Democratic Leadership (with a very few exceptions) seems to loathe it's dirty, smelly, hippie base, I would have to say that no one belongs to the Democratic Base anymore.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:13 AM
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18. My guess is the "real " base is a combination of all those who support someone other than Hillary |
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for the Dem nomination! But I must be mistaken.The polls tell me so!:sarcasm:
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:20 AM
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20. I share your guess... |
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Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 12:20 AM by RiverStone
But alas saracat, I think in this case the tail is wagging the dog.
The MSM is the tail --- or should I say a "fairy tale". I don't believe any of their poll bullshit, but John Q Public believes what that stupid box on his TV stand tells him. The polls are driven by corporations which are driven by $$$$$. Show me the $$$ and I'll show you the leader in the polls.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:23 AM
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21. Ordinary I'd agree but it seems Obama has more dollars and donors and yet she leads? |
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Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 01:03 AM by saracat
I think this has more to do with Murdoch and MSM than dollars at the moment but that is just a guess.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:17 AM
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19. "democratic base" is an oxymoron. |
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:26 AM
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I'll bitch about them plenty but at the end of the day I vote Democratic.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:58 AM
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Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 12:59 AM by RiverStone
Though it feels as if the base has shifted right --- even to the point of blurring lines between the rethugs and Dems at times.
But I'm a life-long Dem voter, and could NEVER imagine voting rethug.
Yet, AFTER we get a DEM President, if it is Hillary --- I can imagine supporting a new Progressive 3rd Party. But first things first, we must kick the lying puke bastards out of The White House. Of that, I feel most passionate!!!
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:59 AM
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24. I consider myself part of the human race....why do we always need to be divided? |
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Thu Sep-20-07 01:01 AM
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25. I'm a Democrat, as are the majority of registered voters. |
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That's a pretty broad base, doncha think.
:kick:
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Thu Sep-20-07 01:18 AM
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27. Then why is it DU seems out of sync... |
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With what the MSM defines as the base of the Democratic party?
Or better yet, they are out of sync with us!
It really feels to this voter that we are in a tug of war - you have the wonderful likes of Dennis Kucinich or Russ Feingold (add the Out of Iraq Caucus) VS the party establishment: Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, the DLC - the party/corporate - and all their compromising --- on IWR and total non-negotiation on the impeachment question.
In the end, for the 2008 election anyway, I do believe we to the left and the right within the part WILL COME TOGETHER and work collectively to defeat the possibility of any rethug taking up further occupancy in the White House. Beyond 08, if the base keeps shifting right - the movement to begin a Progressive 3rd party will pick up steam.
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Thu Sep-20-07 01:34 AM
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29. Yes. And I do NOT hesitate to remind ANY Democrat I call on Capitol Hill |
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of that.
TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers conveniently located in my sig line below.
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Thu Sep-20-07 02:11 AM
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30. what a brilliant sig line! thank you. n/t |
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Thu Sep-20-07 07:53 AM
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60 year old graying white male, armed forces retiree, like to hunt, own fire arms, will watch a foot ball game occasionally.
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:01 AM
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http://www.bigeddieradio.com/No guns here - but I am a big Seattle Seahawks fan!
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Thu Sep-20-07 08:14 AM
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It seems like a lot of people on DU want to think that they are part of "the base" and thus define "the base" as including themselves and their positions on the issues.
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:05 AM
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If the criterion is that I vote Democratic, then yes. :shrug:
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:06 AM
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I swing between Democratic and apathetic.
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:22 AM
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I registered as a Democrat because they're at least a little less evil and sometimes seem to at least feel a bit of shame about screwing everyone else over.
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:24 AM
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Thu Sep-20-07 10:52 AM
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39. since I have voted a straight Democratic ticket my entire life |
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I would say yes.
OTOH - since I don't threaten on a daily basis to either sit at home come election day or vote third party unless every single elected Democrat doesn't do exactly what I want - then maybe the answer is "no", at least by the definition employed by many here at this website...
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