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Thu Sep-20-07 11:35 AM
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Poll question: Do you give the middle finger to people with Ron Paul Bumper Stickers? |
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:37 AM
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1. For your own safety you have to ignore them. |
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A dumb shit like that can be dangerous when provoked.
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:40 AM
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2. The middle finger for supporting a political candidate? |
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Hell no. There's enough ugly shit on the road, why contribute to it?
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:58 PM
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:40 AM
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:42 AM
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...any Ron Paul stickers or signage.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:23 PM
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28. A "freeway blogger" type in my area put up a "Ron Paul Revolution" |
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sign on an overpass above the interstate highway near the town where I live (in Iowa)...
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:42 AM
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I can think of many more people whom I have a better reason to give the finger to. For starters anyone who still has a W04 sticker.
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:44 AM
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6. You'd have carpal tunnel in Ohio. |
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I just absolutely LAUGH at anyone with a W04 sticker, STILL. As if there's reason to be proud of the blight on our country's history.
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:50 AM
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8. I actually saw a "W is for Women" Bush sticker in Ohio. On a Black woman's car. |
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What the fuck is wrong with HER?
But in her defense, that WAS pre-Katrina.
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:56 AM
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13. Maybe she's a closet Condi fan. |
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Or maybe she's just a flippin' idiot.
I'll go with the latter.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:56 PM
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33. try living in Cincinnati |
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my neighborhood is not bad, but where I work is. I need to get some "I support torture" stickers made up...
:)
and no, I don't flip them off, although I am tempted to sometimes since most of the W sticker owners drive the way they vote - without paying attention to anything but themselves.
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:49 AM
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I generally shake my head at their stupidity. Monday I saw an entire apt. complex with Paul signs and banners. :puke:
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:51 AM
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10. I'm almost considering donating to Ron Paul for the same reason a conservative Repuke... |
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... might donate to Al Sharpton.
To keep him in the debates, causing trouble for the other Repuke candidates.
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:51 AM
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9. They want to be democrats so bad, but they just can't do it. |
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:54 AM
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12. Well, that's because Democrats want everyone to have clean air and water, affordable health care... |
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prescription coverage for seniors, to end the war in Iraq and bring our troops home safely...
but they'll RAISE TAXES!
ARRrrRRRRrggGgGGgGgGHhhHhhhhh!!!!
Which leads me to another poll question:
If you had a son or daughter or spouse serving in Iraq, would you be willing to bring them home if it meant paying higher taxes?
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:52 AM
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11. No. At least they are thinking and not just accepting what they are told. |
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I could not go with #2 because global warming is the most important issue of the day.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:00 PM
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17. Global Warming is more important, but the war is more pressing. |
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Meaning, more urgent.
We can fix the war in a week and be done with it.
Global Warming we have another year to elect the right leadership, plus it's going to be on-going for decades afterward.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:02 PM
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19. Frankly, we are out of time on GW and have been for about ten years. |
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Only immediate, drastic action will mitigate the inevitable damage.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:35 PM
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30. How much CO2 can you sequester iniside a Republicker? |
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I bet Sensenbrenner alone could hold about three metric tons.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:43 PM
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32. Probably four for Hastert. nt |
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:57 AM
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14. Ron Paul's the only GOP Presidential candidate I respect. |
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Granted, that doesn't mean I agree with him on every issue (personally, I'm with Randi Rhodes when she said that libertarians are "lazy liberals" because while their heart is in the right place, they haven't thought through the issues.) That doesn't mean I'll vote for him - I'm leaning towards Kucinich.
But I do respect him for being the only GOP presidential candidate who told the truth about the Iraq War and our actions instead of dickwaving about how much Gitmo would be expanded or how many terrarists would be waterboarded.
All the rest of the GOP candidates are fucking nazis.
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:58 AM
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15. That's awfully immature, but Ron Paul is indeed a terrible candidate n/t |
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:02 PM
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18. Agreed. Ron Paul is a terrible, awful, downright HORRIFYING candidate. But... |
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Ron Paul is also the BEST candidate the Republicks have run for president in years!
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:19 PM
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25. So, what exactly is the point of your poll? |
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Thu Sep-20-07 11:59 AM
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16. I vote no because they are on the right side of the most important issue of today.. |
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But my opinion of what the most important issue today is vastly different than just about any other DU'er.
It's the drug war that was the first shot in the loss of freedoms in the USA.
We have about a million people in cages because of it and a very good case can be made that it cost the Dems the 2000 election.
For profit prisons? Thank the drug war.
Pissing in a cup? Thank the drug war.
Searching your car? Thank the drug war.
Paramilitary cops breaking doors down in the middle of the night? Thank the drug war.
People have been conditioned by this bullshit to accept violations of their person and property than no free citizen should ever even think about allowing..
And it's all because of government scare tactics, just like the Iraq war.
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Thu Sep-20-07 07:14 PM
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50. End the Drug War!....but also |
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He doesn't support the (un)Patriot(ic) Act,like all the Dem "frontrunners" do.
The War on our Rights is one issue that should be forefront in this election,but hardly any mention is made of it!The War on Drugs is a total waste of effort...not to mention resources.
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:59 AM
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74. I didn't know that about the PA... |
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Thanks for sharing.
Dennis K, he's da' man..
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:15 PM
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20. That's a yard sign, not a bumper sticker. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 12:16 PM by Buzz Clik
And, no, I do not become personally offended when someone expresses their preference for a political candidate.
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:16 PM
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21. yes, because Ron Paul hates women n/t |
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:17 PM
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23. You're thinking of Ru Paul |
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Thu Sep-20-07 02:43 PM
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all RuPaul wants is my clothes and pumps
Ron Paul wants my freedom
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Thu Sep-20-07 06:19 PM
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43. Libertarians can be odd. But woman haters? Enlighten me... |
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Thu Sep-20-07 06:43 PM
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47. Paul, an OBGYN is anti-choice. eom |
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Thu Sep-20-07 07:06 PM
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49. You can be pro-life and not hate women. |
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Thu Sep-20-07 07:45 PM
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51. I don't believe that. It shows a lack of respect for a woman's very personal decison and it |
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Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 07:51 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
is worse when you try to legislate it. What I can't reconcile is that Paul is a Libertarian and wants to legislate women's choice in the first place.
As to pro-life, one can be pro-life and pro-choice. I thank goodness never had to face an unwanted pregnancy and being pro-choice my whole adult life, I don't think I would have had an abortion but I would never, ever interfere with another's decision.
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Thu Sep-20-07 07:48 PM
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forced birthers hate and fear women. and to be pro-forced-birth is not libertarian in any way.
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Thu Sep-20-07 08:04 PM
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58. And then you have these very same people who want |
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to force women to give birth to unwanted babies, don't want anything to do with those babies once they take their first breath of air. They aren't caring for, feeding, nurturing and raising those babies are they? They aren't going to be there to give those babies love. They love the fetus but then they couldn't care less about the baby. How many unwanted babies has Ron Paul adopted?
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Thu Sep-20-07 08:09 PM
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ownership of females as property.
what is so ironic, is that the majority of menz who now supposedly think they should have a vote on the woman's choice, are the same cast of characters who, before DNA testing, would be the ones yelling "How do I know it's mine?" the loudest.
if they can't just deny it outright and walk away, they HAVE to own it.
:grr:
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Thu Sep-20-07 08:26 PM
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65. Ownership of females as property? That's a tad melodramatic. |
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I know both men and women who in their heart of heart believe that abortion is murder. It is not about control or ownership. I certainly disagree with them, but I flatly refuse to trivialize their position or assume that they are lying to me.
Back to the original topic: Ron Paul. I did not realize he was avidly pro-life. By itself, that does not equate to hating women.
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Thu Sep-20-07 08:35 PM
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67. i do not think it "melodramatic" |
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to hold the opinion that men who seek to control women's bodies, minds, and lives, hate and fear women.
i do not use the term "pro-life", as the very term minimizes women's lives. the term posits a zygote, a blastocyst, to be superior to the life of an actual real living human female. the proper term is "forced birth".
if Ron Paul does not respect my constitutional right to privacy in my healthcare, then i can only assume he hates women.
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:08 PM
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68. Well, we see things differently. |
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Fri Sep-21-07 01:42 PM
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the fact that Ron Paul hates women's freedom doesn't affect you, then.
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Thu Sep-20-07 06:59 PM
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48. Libertarians are just Republicans who smoke pot. n/t |
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:17 PM
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22. I give the peace sign to all repuke stickered cars. |
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:18 PM
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24. Dirty goddamned hippy! |
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Thu Sep-20-07 06:24 PM
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44. starting with a Lurch... |
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:34 PM
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29. That's a very good idea! n/t |
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:20 PM
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26. I love the Ron Paulites that like to deface property |
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There's a construction site near my office that has large concrete drain pipes sitting near the road. One of the upstanding Paulians decided it would be great advertisement to spray paint them with Ron Paul propaganda in bright orange.
If you think that's bad, there's a lady that has some anti-war stickers on her car. One of the Paulians decided it would be great P.R. to scratch her paint near her door handle with PAUL08.
Not only is their candidate horrible (one issue I agree with him on:War), but the people that support him are the most obnoxious and rude trash I have run across.
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Thu Sep-20-07 01:12 PM
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36. I found a Ron Paul sticker on a light pole in Boston. |
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They know that other Repukes are likely to cause them physical harm if they put a Ron Paul sticker on their own property, so they put them on other people's property?
I have a photo, but I'm having trouble getting it posted online.
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Thu Sep-20-07 08:28 PM
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66. Somebody spray painted a drain that is soon to be buried in the ground? |
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Fri Sep-21-07 07:10 AM
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73. Perhaps not a big deal, but it's still not theirs to do that with |
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It's not their property. Sure, it might be getting put into the ground and "no one will ever know", but it still remains some elses property and is indicative of their wanton disregard for anyone else (those G.O.P. values).
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:17 PM
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69. they are taking over in my area as well |
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shitty hand-painted signs above overpasses and under stop lights of busy intersections...the ultimate irony of course is when push comes to shove, these busy activist vandals will be good sheep and vote for the GOP frontrunner and NOT Paul on election day...Most of these vanity campaigns only serve as a publicity diversion (see Kinky Friedman, who got what; 3% of the vote? I'm in VA and for whatever reason, I saw a BUNCH of Kinky bumper stickers here....)
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Thu Sep-20-07 12:35 PM
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But I saw a pack of Ron Paul nuts walking down the street handing out pamphlets. I was about to tell them Ron Paul was a racist fuck and as far as I was concerned so were they, but they crossed the street. Lucky them.
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Thu Sep-20-07 01:00 PM
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35. Why waste a good 'finger'? |
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Thu Sep-20-07 01:13 PM
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But if I did I still wouldn't. I don't hate him.
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Thu Sep-20-07 01:18 PM
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38. As a "good DUer," I must hate Ralph Nader and applaud Ron Paul. |
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After all, that's the "progressive" thing to do, right? :eyes:
:evilgrin:
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Thu Sep-20-07 08:11 PM
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60. I don't have much use for either of 'em. |
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One is an egotistical, self-serving prick, and the other is anti-choice and anti-separation of church and state.
Feh.
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Thu Sep-20-07 01:25 PM
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39. They're mostly angry Republicans around here |
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I'm glad they're pissed off at their party. I'm hoping they get so pissed when he doesn't get the nomination that they decide to sit out '08.
If we can't convert them, I'd rather they feel betrayed by the GOP.
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Thu Sep-20-07 02:46 PM
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41. I have rather liked the Ron Paul people I've encountered. They are at least friendly |
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and willing to talk to me like a person, unlike some Republicans I've tried to be friendly with.
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Fri Sep-21-07 01:50 PM
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79. i tried to have a conversation |
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with some female Ron Paul supporters at the Summer of Love 40th Anniversary. one of them was all repentant about her abortions and was just fine with reproductive rights being abolished on the federal level. the other one was a blithering idiot. neither one cared whether anyone had any reproductive rights if they were in a state like Kansas or Mississippi.
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Thu Sep-20-07 02:48 PM
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He is borderline batshit crazy on social issues, but he is right on Iraq and the man on finance. Check him hammer Ben Bernanke (I think this is from today). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeHWW5gbc0w
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Thu Sep-20-07 06:27 PM
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45. Surprisingly, I've never seen a Ron Paul BS or yard sign around here, so no, I haven't |
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Thu Sep-20-07 06:41 PM
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46. No, I tacitly encourage them. |
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For one, he is at least genuine (i.e., he does what most people claim they want a candidate to do). Secondly, fragmentation in the Republican field tends to help the Democratic field. Democrats are, for the most part, already united behind two or three candidates. And as a result, the Democrats appear cohesive and ready to move forward. The Republicans come across as lost children (very much like the Democrats came across in 2004).
I hope he, at least, maintains his percentage.
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Thu Sep-20-07 07:46 PM
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52. No, because I respect the right of others to support whoever they want. |
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Thu Sep-20-07 07:47 PM
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53. I don't think I've ever seen a Ron Paul bumper sticker. - n/t |
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Thu Sep-20-07 07:48 PM
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But if I were to, I wouldn't get upset. :shrug:
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Thu Sep-20-07 07:53 PM
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56. The best place for your middle finger |
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is wrapped around your steering wheel for your own safety. :scared:
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Thu Sep-20-07 08:12 PM
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61. I was going to say "...is in your middle nostril" |
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Thu Sep-20-07 08:15 PM
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:rofl: that's still safer than waving it at someone. :D
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Thu Sep-20-07 07:55 PM
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57. whackjob here in MI has 100 all over his car |
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looks like a real piece of work
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Thu Sep-20-07 08:12 PM
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62. No, because I could live with Ron Paul being the republican candidate |
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Thu Sep-20-07 08:14 PM
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63. I voted "they're all fingerworthy" as I didn't see those bumperstickers |
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I do see the occasional button or T-shirt - and many many sites on Stumble Upon - always give the thumbs down.What irritates me most it's the kids (that used to be the naderites) who think it's so cool, and he's a libertarian (a guy against separation of church and state????)
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:26 PM
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70. One good thing I can say about Paul & his supporters is... |
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that they have a bit of common sense and see what's wrong with things today like the war and our declining dollar.
As a Rudy or Fred Thompson supporter about these same issues & they'll parrot "We're winning in Iraq, and our economy is stronger than ever!"
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:31 PM
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Right now they are making a statement, against the Republican party status quo types like Rudy and Shitt Romney.
Now someone with a Tom Tancredo sticker, they'd get a middle finger.
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Thu Sep-20-07 09:39 PM
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72. Ron Paul is the only republican I'd vote for |
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I'd certainly vote for him over Romney, McCain, or Giulliani.
At least Paul opposes the war, opposes the drug war. He's pro civil liberties...And he doesn't strike me as an authoritarian fuck like the other repukes.
Look, he's crazy on other issues, but fuck, I'd take that craziness over an endless war and diminishing civil liberties.
Granted he's not getting the nomination. And our candidates, while not being that great, are still not bad enough to drive me to voting for any repuke.
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Fri Sep-21-07 08:33 AM
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75. I'd only vote for Ron Paul if he were running against Joe Biden. |
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Or if he were running against Hillary, and Hillary did something really awful, like tie Bill down and eat the flesh from his still-living body while he screamed for help on live television.
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Fri Sep-21-07 01:43 PM
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as regards my health care choices, are no small matter. therefore i would never vote for Ron Paul. any man who seeks to restrict women's liberties is an authoritarian.
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Fri Sep-21-07 08:39 AM
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76. I think most supporters with signs no one thing: he talks against the war very strongly. |
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