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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:13 PM
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Instead of protesting Democrats, can we focus on these folks instead?
These are the people who voted against the Webb amendment. These are the people who are putting politics and party over country. These are the people who are enabling endless occupation.

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE KEEPING US IN IRAQ.

why aren't we swarming their offices? why isn't anybody camped out in front of their homes? why are they allowed to spit on the Constitution and their constituents and ignore their mandate to end this fucking war?

Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thune (R-SD)
Voinovich (R-OH)
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:14 PM
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1. Thank you--this is the REAL crime.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:41 PM
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10. The real crime was commited back before the war started.
Giving an idiot like Bush a loaded gun and then ammo whenever he asked for it, so he could continue the killings...that was the REAL crime. People try to brush it to the side because they don't want to admit that their candidate has blood on their hands and they are still promoting and voting for them. At least thats why I think most brush it under the rug?

One person stood up against everyone else in the system and said the war was about oil back in 2002 and didn't vote for it, to me thats true leadership. For some reason we ignore that LITTLE fact also. All the lives that could have been saved if our politicians weren't controlled by corporate interests instead of the people who they are supposed to represent. We the people had one voice in 2002.

That same person that stood up alone as a leader is now looked at by the American people, as unelectable? What do we really stand for as Americans?
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:18 PM
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2. no fucking way. letting DEMS off the hook just because they are
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 01:18 PM by jonnyblitz
DEMS is pure BULLSHIT. anybody with half a fucking brain knows how the republicans will vote/behave on this issue so why waste time stating the obvious ?!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:56 PM
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11. Hear, hear!
The pukes will always do the wrong thing. If we don't hold Dem feat to the fire, nothing good will ever come out of D.C.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:18 PM
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3. Thanks, we needed that.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:24 PM
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4. No, its my duty
as a faithful and loyal member of the Democratic Party to ensure we have good Democrats in office who represent the party's best interests and values.

We fought for and got a Democratic majority in Congress the last time around and it didn't help. We won't improve things until we get rid of the "driftwood" in the party and replace them with good people.

Its an internal management problem, not an external one. I'm a member of the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party and its my job to deal with Dems, not Republicans.

Its vitally important that ALL Democrats take ownership for the management and governance of their party and learn how to fix it when its broken. The Democratic Party in Washington DC is broken, very broken and it requires fixing.

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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:05 PM
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13. Well said, OzarkDem n/t
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:27 PM
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5. Focus on the people who elected them too. The pols reflect their constituents.
The reason the Mass. politicians are good is because they have an educated state.

There's a direct correlation between the educational level of the state and how blue or red it is.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:37 PM
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7. Romney? nt
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:37 PM
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8. Blue-red doesn't work any more.
The "red staters" no longer have an excuse. Their people hate Bush and his policies just as much as the rest of the country



The only Dems that have this excuse live in Utah. Know any Utah Dems on the national stage?

It is not 2004 any more, but hey, if the "red state" excuse can run for another year to cover bad Democrat's asses before anyone notices it's bullshit, then by all means, spout off.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:36 PM
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6. I don't blame the Dems more than Repubs at all, but our Dems are SUPPOSED to listen to us
thus, I think they make worthwhile targets for protest---if they refuse to listen to us, their base, that is.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:38 PM
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9. every single Democrat voted for the Webb amendment
and nearly every single Democrat consistently votes in favor of measures aimed at ending this war.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:05 PM
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12. Good idea and needs respect. I do notice that Lieberman (Ind)
Couldn't avoid voting with his Repuglican buddies.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:08 PM
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14. I'll never stop protesting elected officials who pretend to be dems
but who are, in fact, neocon enablers.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:23 PM
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15. Thanks.
Glad some people have some since around hear today.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:27 PM
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16. None of those people care what the common folk think
They will be true to their party/lobbyists to the end of time and any effort spent on complaining to them is just a huge waste of time.

Hey, half the Democratic Senate agrees with them the majority of the time. Isn't that proof enough that their feelings of righteousness is right?
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:17 PM
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17. alright, might as well not even try then, forget about it
just let em do whatever they want with nary a peep from us

half of those assholes are up for re-election next year - they'll listen if it's made clear that people aren't going to vote for them
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:23 PM
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18. Because Republicans don't listen to the Democratic base?
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:27 PM
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19. DUers represented by (R)s need to bother them as much as they can
and bring everyone else in their state or district who's against this war with them

it's not just Democrats who hate this thing...bring the pressure on the people who NOT ONCE HAVE EVER DONE ANYTHING TO TRY TO END THIS
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:57 AM
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27. Sorry, I'm too busy trying to meet with my own rep
who hasn't bothered to meet with her district in a year because she's too busy being Speaker.

Sure, let's be equal opportunity advocates. I agree with that.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:29 PM
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20. ,...along with the neocons, the corporacrats and the theocrats who created this nightmare. n/t
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:31 PM
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Because that would be too easy...
Same shit, different decade...
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:31 PM
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21. Because that would be too easy...
Same shit, different decade...
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:12 PM
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22. great post
kick

:hug:
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:38 PM
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23. thanks
it boggles my mind to hear people make the excuse that "we need to hold them accountable," but when asked why they aren't treating the Republicans the same way they reply "well they won't listen anyways..."

the Democrats ARE listening. they aren't the obstructionists. they aren't the ones providing Bush with cover to keep this thing going. they aren't the ones introducing bullshit amendments about a newspaper ad (though a whole bunch of the morons did vote for it). they aren't the ones calling for a congressional investigation (like Tom Davis of VA) on whether or not the New York Times illegally gave MoveOn a discounted rate. they aren't the ones voting against habeas corpus. etc. etc. etc. etc.

i understand the need to keep pressure up on ALL lawmakers regardless of party or opinion. and it's important to let the Dem leadership know we're on them so they don't cave. but they can't even get bills up for a simple vote because of republican filibuster and republican filibuster.

and I know that plenty of DUers here are represented by Republicans. and plenty of people of all political stripes who are represented by republicans are against this war. so we should be hounding EVERYONE. every senator, every house member, everybody and anybody who has any sort of capability to end this thing. pack their offices. interrupt their schedules.

make their lives and leisure as difficult as possible.

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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:46 PM
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25. another great post
:yourock:
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:40 PM
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24. K&R
Can. Not. Be. Overstated.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 02:41 AM
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26. We expect betrayal from Republicans. We the Dems ...
... have a right to expect our elected "leaders" to take a stand against Republican malfeasance -- not join with them.

How likely is it that focusing on Republicans is going to change anything? They're Teflon coated.
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