How DARE you want to limit THIS Constitutional Right? NOT just at Moveon ad but ALL of us!

[uppityperson]

Reconcile these for me:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

To express the sense of the Senate that General David H. Petraeus, Commanding General, Multi-National Force-Iraq, deserves the full support of the Senate and strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all members of the United States Armed Forces.

I am condemned by the Senate now for saying, writing ANY personal attack on ANYONE in the USA military? WTF? MoveOn is not mentioned anywhere in the text of what they passed, just "personal attacks" which means me, you, anyone.

Edited to add, ok, they didn't pass a law, but it is totally against the spirit of the first amendment and this is what is pissing me off. How DARE they.

[Mythsaje]

1. That's okay, Congress.

We think YOU suck too.

:)

[TwilightGardener]

2. LOL! Are you really afraid of being "condemned" by a bunch of overpaid weenies? Really?

[uppityperson]

4. First they came for the....

I cannot believe that this bunch of overpaid weenies voted against the constitution. This is just another chip chip chipping away of our rights. Where is moveon mentioned in what they passed? Nowhere. It can be used broadly and is just another bit gone.

[TwilightGardener]

7. They didn't vote against the Constitution. All they said was,

"MoveOn? We no likey your ad". That's it.

[uppityperson]

9. Where is MoveOn mentioned in what they passed? True, not a law, but

I'm having a hard time explaining why I find this so upsetting. True, it is not a law. I think it is the spirit of the thing, spirit of the law being smashed.

Why stop for a stop sign out in the country if no one is around for miles? Spirit of the law vs word of the law sort of thing. This thing today is counter to the spirit of the Constitution.

[JackRiddler]

15. Um...

They're the Congress, dude. This may not be a law that locks up Moveon but who says it's not a precursor? They just condemned speech. When did they ever do that, for a domestic actor?

[TwilightGardener]

16. Well, I'm not a dude, first of all. Second, I don't think this will end up

being the Constitutionally-threatening slippery slope you're envisioning. It was just a political cheap shot from the R's to the D's, and the Dems said, "OK, fine, we didn't like the freakin' ad", and that's it--it's over.

[treestar]

18. Maybe it has no real effect, but it does show what their attitude is

I think that's the point. It shouldn't even occur to a U.S. Senator to condemn anyone for speaking out.

[cali]

3. Sure. It's not a law. n/t

[Buzz Clik]

5. No kidding.

It sucks that the Dems caved on this, but it's hardly a violation rights.

Such drama.

[uppityperson]

11. I edited to change, yes, not violating rights but showing they want to.

Why do they cave, why do they want to? thanks for kicking, even if it was to say what you did.

[jpgray]

6. No problem. It's not a law, it's an expression of opinion. It's an offensive opinion, in my view

But it has little practical effect.

[Xipe Totec]

8. So where is the Senate's condemnation of the Swift-boat attacks on Kerry?

[uppityperson]

10. That would also fall under this.

strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity (of General Petraeus and0 all members of the United States Armed Forces.

[Xipe Totec]

12. A little late now; where were they when it mattered?

What a bunch of hypocrites.

FWIW, I know this kind of crap is an attack on the first amendment. It galls me further because it is so selective.

By the way, the chimperor is the Commander in Chief of the armed forces. Does this mean we can't criticize the putz anymore?

[uppityperson]

13. We can, just will be condemned.

What is sad is people who do not see this as an attack on 1st.

[Trisket-Bisket]

14. What?

I see no limit to moveon. It will be a great fundraiser. It was a meaningless resolutionas far as law is concerned..

[goodgd_yall]

17. Gravely wrong

And it doesn't matter if this is not a law. It's a condemnation of free speech. It should bother us that this is the opinion of the majority of our elected officials.