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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:30 PM
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Request for Context: What precedents are there for the Moveon vote?
The Senate just voted a resolution to morally condemn the speech of a domestic political actor.

Can anyone think of precedents? I'm at a loss. When was the last time the Congress condemned a free-speech statement by U.S. citizens or a citizen association?

Historic examples?

I can't think of any. It would put Moveon in a pretty exclusive class.

Anyone?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:34 PM
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1. Oh, wonderful! Another Betrayus thread!
Let's fillet all the angles
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:36 PM
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2. No, maybe we should just ignore it and hope it goes away...
In case you didn't recognize it, that was :sarcasm:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:44 PM
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3. There's a "hide thread" function, ya know. n/t
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:49 PM
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4. Ahem, restarting here...
I won't get roped into that endless diagonal thing but for certain people do seem to feel a need to preemptively screw up this thread, which does nothing other than pose a question:

How often does Congress do this kind of thing?

Are there precedents?

I am asking genuinely, and if you don't believe you have anything to contribute, or if you would prefer no discussion on this topic, why please - go on into the next thread.

thanks!
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:22 PM
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5. Jeez, the question is serious!
When has this ever happened?

Is it routine, and I missed something?

Anyone remember when DU was once a research community?
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The Vinyl Ripper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:24 PM
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6. It could be that it has never happened..
I certainly don't recall hearing anything like this before.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:46 PM
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7. This was a move(Republicans have said as much)
to embarass Democrats in Senate. The GOP knows very few Democrats
in the Senate have a spine and can be bullied. When they accuse
them of not having core values, they mean the Democrats do not
have the moral courage to stand up for anything. Sadly, these
Senators listed here prove the GOP Perception accurate.

If the Democrats had stood together and pointed out that the
GOP are using this "false outrage over the Ad" to keep the focus
away trom the fact that theyGOP have sentenced us to a non ending
war and an occupation for fifty years at least. What would be
happening in the world if the Dems had gone on all the Networks
and proclaimed the GOP afre committing us to twenty or more years
in Iraq. Stayed on this point until Republicans gave us an estimate
of how long they intend to be there. They should have explained
the only reason Petreus testified was to give the Republicans'
cover. They knew their consituents did not trust Bush.

It is all in how it explained.

As usual certain Democrats protect GOP.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:48 PM
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8. The first one I could think of...
is Congress investigating lyrics of "Louie Louie."
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:49 PM
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9. I don't think it has ever happened before
Never.


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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:51 PM
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10. Maybe the Sedition Act or maybe under McCarthy?
That is the BEST question I've seen on DU today. Anyone know?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:43 PM
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11. well, thanks for taking it seriously...
I'm wondering how to even research this thing. It's sort of resistant to search-word logic. How would you go about it?

Congress condemn political speech resolution precedents

See what I mean? Either you know this stuff or you don't?

Any lawyers in the house?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:08 PM
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12. A new try: Can anyone cite a precedent?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:19 PM
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14. Nope. I did a brief search and couldn't find
anything like it. I did find a resolution condemning Bob Jones University for its discriminatory practices, but I'm not sure it passed.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:14 PM
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13. It doesn't matter. what matters is that it gets attention, and allows the focus
to shift, once again, as it always does, from the message to the messenger

that is the CRUX of the Right Wing/M$M's success in controlling the terms of the debate at ALL times, and is what helps keep people in the dark, because all that registers with them is the constant wingnut barrage that Dems are AGAINST the troops because they support a left wing group's attack against a brave general

that's how they do it all the time

how many examples do you want?

start with the Swiftboating of Kerry, for just one example

the entire media campaign against Gore in 2000, for another

the smearing of John Edwards, for another

the entire eight years of the Clinton Inquisition, for another

etc

etc

rinse

repeat
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