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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:31 PM
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Answer me THIS, please?
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 03:39 PM by in_cog_ni_to
The Democrats are the Majority in the Senate. Being the Majority in the Senate they control the agenda, right? If they control the agenda and some rat bastard Senator adds a dumb ass resolution to an appropriations bill, is it not within the power of the Majority party, who supposedly controls the agenda, to NOT bring the bill to the floor for a vote UNLESS THE RAT BASTARD SENATOR REMOVES HIS DUMB ASS RESOLUTION FROM THE BILL???? Why did Reid allow the bill, with the resolution attached, to make it to the floor for a vote?

Someone please explain this to me.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:33 PM
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1. I would like to know this as well.
The Democrats CONTROL the agenda. THEY DECIDE which bills make it to the floor, and which ones do not.

So, WHY AREN'T THEY IN CONTROL?

You'd almost think we were still the minority. :shrug:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:35 PM
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3. NOTHING has changed being in the Majority! The Democrats in Congress act like abused women!
They've been beaten so much, they've just given up and refuse to fight back.

I really want an answer to my question.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:33 PM
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2. My best guess
is that Reid wanted it in there.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:36 PM
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6. WHY?
Does he not realize WE are the people who support and PAY FOR THOSE ADS Moveon.org runs? WE are the people who vote Democratic.
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Trisket-Bisket Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:35 PM
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4. Ask Sen. Reid.
I say that because he is the only one that can honestly answer your question.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:39 PM
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8. Here's what he WON'T say
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 03:40 PM by radiclib
that not voting for it gets him called a "far-left moonbat" by people he's ascared of.
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Trisket-Bisket Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:45 PM
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11. Thank you.
Your powers of mind reading are truly amazing.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:36 PM
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5. Reid allowed the bill because he's DLC
This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

Without a doubt, the DLC is the most fundamentalist organization within the caucus, the most ideologically rigid, and the most destructive to the progressive cause.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/5/24/1712/23448

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RangerRK Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:38 PM
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7. The PRETEND they have no power
...just like they pretend they cannot cut the funding....

why do they participate in these lies?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:42 PM
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9. You don't think Bush started wire-tapping TERRORISTS early 2001, do you?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:47 PM
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12. No. IF the Dems are being blackmailed and/or extorted,
they need to go public with it. Enough is enough.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:43 PM
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10. The Democrats don't know how to use power...
They've made themselves obsolete.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:54 PM
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13. Reid is exposed as the weak manager he is....his record is pretty bad...
but, I know there are many here who deny this. I would have hoped they were correct about Reid but his track record is not looking good. He dumped the FISA Reauthorization on the House and then let the Senate go out of town when in a Press Conference the day before he said the Senate would stay in town until they got the revisions they wanted. When I saw what he did ...I knew he had not told the truth at that Press Conference. Maybe it isn't him making the decisions in the Senate, though. Maybe there's something ELSE we don't know about what's going on in the power structure for Dems there. :shrug:

Emannuel and Hoyer are the culprits with the Blue Dogs in the House... but there must be more going on in the Senate than Reid.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:00 PM
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14. So, Reid COULD HAVE stopped that vote today and chose not to?
That was an insane thing to do. He'd rather piss of the Democrats than the repuke supporters? Not very smart, IMCPO.

Who in the Senate could be pulling Reid's strings? Who could it possibly be...unless he's one that's being blackmailed/extorted?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:02 PM
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18. I wish we knew more about the "power structure" in the Senate...
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 05:08 PM by KoKo01
I don't think it's what we think it is. Yet in all the blogs I read and everywhere...I can't seem to get more than "headlines" about Reid. I always wondered how a Senator from Nevada..(gambling Capitol) who is so mild mannered and flustery in his speech could have achieved Senate Leadership. When I asked on DU years ago...I was told that Reid was a good second to Daschel and that when Dems were in the Minority he was a good "gardian or caretaker." :shrug: Maybe Nevada is now very powerful given the Boom there...but Nevada wouldn't be a state that I would pick a Leader from to represent the majority of Population for Democrats. But what do I know. :shrug: I'm just an "East Coaster."
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:11 PM
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15. DLC = Reps in disguise?


----------------------------

Remember Fallujah
Bush to The Hague!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:39 PM
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16. You seem to be catching on. n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:51 PM
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17. becauuuuuuse....
most are complicit rat bastard corporatist dlc so called opposition party. Sadly they are not even putting up the pretense of representing us and defending the constitution anymore. Save very few. :(
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:45 PM
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19. Here's what I think...
...I think Reid figured it was just a "symbolic" vote anyway since it is only a resolution -- a "sense of the Senate" sort of thing, not a law -- so it was safe to bring it to the floor. Plus, it allowed the Dems from more conservative states to vote for it, thus providing them political cover from the unrelenting attacks of the rabid right wing as to their patriotism and support of the Good General (gag me) and The Troops.

Unfortunately for Reid, all it has done is activate the base that they've been trying so hard, for so long, to ignore.

Ha ha.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:15 PM
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20. If what you say is true, though..wouldn't it seem he's "Clueless" ABOUT the rest of us Out Here?
Sheesh...Our Dems have been e-mailing us and showing up on Lefty Blogs and on Air America begging for us to SEND MONEY ...to get us OUT OF IRAQ...SEND MONEY TO RESTORE .."Habeus, Truth in Lending, and Get Us Out of Iraq!"

If Harry Reid doesn't know what Dem Fundraisers are PROMISING for $$$$$$$$$$$/s from the American Public...then he must be totally Deaf and Blind or an OPPORTUNIST who DOESN'T LISTEN...but thinks we OUT HERE..will just Pay his POSTAGE STAMPS for our puny DOLLARS COMPARED TO THE "VEGAS LOBBYISTS" that he's used to. :eyes: Sheesh...incredible...
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:25 PM
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21. Well I of course do not know what he was thinking...
...it's just my theory. But it's the only one that makes sense to me. Because I can't think of any other possible advantage he could have been thinking of.

As for the being out of touch thing, my theory on that is there's something in the drinking water in DC. I can't think of any other plausible reason why seemingly smart, decent people get elected, head to DC, and then suddenly lose any semblance of independent thought, instead seeing everything through the distorted prism of the Beltway insiders.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:36 PM
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22. DC Beltway is like "Hotel California Song" Once you get in...you can't Get Out!"
What do we know...we are just the "pajamas media." :-(
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