Why the hell should any Democrat aplogize for Move On ad?

[samplegirl]

This really makes my blood boil. Why should any Democrat feel the need to denounce the Petraeus Ad???
The Republicans see this as a victory and a weakness in the Democratic Party. When in history of verbal acusations and posed
slams on the democrats have we asked to denouce or recived an apology from the Republican party??? Its time for the Democrats
to stand up and remember every voice they have deemed to ruin or
silence in the past. They ruined Howard Dean for his scream. Tried to abolish Max Cleland and the unforgiveable swiftboating of John Kerry.
This is the party that can use every dirty handed trick in book that they can dish out.......then cry like a baby when counter
attacked. How bout a few more death wishs like Coulter gave.
Move On has my support and I hope they continue with more great
prospectives.

[Joanne98]

1. Because they're a bunch of PUSSIES!

[AuntPatsy]

2. Not all of them n/t

[DUyellow]

26. PUSSIES to the MAX

I have never seen so much

[BlooInBloo]

3. Only cowards have a problem with it.

[patrice]

4. Two's company. Three's a crowd. And MoveOn makes it three. nt

[bluethruandthru]

5. You've got that right!

This ad wasn't put out by the Democratic party. I think our so-called leaders of the party need to draft some resolutions forcing the repukes to denounce the swiftboat ads, Ann Coulter's calling for the assassination of Supreme Court judges, the Max Cleland attack ads, the purple band aids, Rush Limburger, Sean insanity, Billo and all the other right wing radio and tv screamers calling me a godless traitor - just because I'm a Democrat and on and on and on.

[samplegirl]

38. When its all said and done

Petraues will be no better than Don Rumsfeld. He will just be another fall guy for the Bush Administration.

[Gabi Hayes]

6. here's why

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1863950&mesg_id=1863950

[Critters2]

12. LOL!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Exultant Democracy]

7. Cause they are the defensive wing of the republican party.

If things were otherwise then the Republicans wouldn't keep getting their way on everything. If the Democrats were a real opposition party they would have shut it all down a while ago.

[Harper_is_Bush]

8. Because it calls a General a traitor? n/t

[Nevernose]

17. More than just attacking the troops, attacking a GENERAL

This isn't Jesus or Gandhi or MLK or George Washington we're talking about, it's just a regular guy -- a guy who has everything to gain by lying, and stands to lose big time by telling the truth. Not the truth as he sees it, but the reality-based truth.

And no one on TV mentions all of the other generals that have been FIRED for reporting the unpleasant truth.

Since Vietnam, we have enshrined having a military job to the same level of credibility that we used to give to the second coming of Jesus Christ Himself. It's a cult of the military. And it's bullshit.

[DefenseLawyer]

21. Geez Louise, He's a general

When the hell did criticizing a military leader become the equivalent of kicking a disabled vet in the balls and spitting in his eye? I can't believe Lincoln had the temerity to criticize General McClellan! He was clearly un-american. And Truman fired MacArthur. He clearly wanted the terrorists to win. As long as we kowtow to this idea that everyone in a uniform is above reproach we will continue to let this country be run by war profiteers.

[Harper_is_Bush]

23. Calling someone a traitor is a bit beyond just "criticizing" them.

These false arguments are something more suitable to FR.

[DefenseLawyer]

27. Wasn't Benedict Arnold a general?

If he lied through his teeth to Congress to justify continuing an illegal immoral war, maybe he is a traitor. I'm not saying he is or he isn't, but the fact that he is in the fucking Army doesn't enter into the equation one way or the other.

[Cha]

29. It's not a false argument

when it's the truth but thanks for your input.

The general betrayed us..and moveon called him on it..moveon was right to do this..I don't care if it's condemned in the Senate where they keep enabling bush.. it's a badge of honor for us and moveon.

[patrice]

28. Have you ever been in the military?

There are ALL kinds of people in the military. Putting on a uniform and hanging in there for a gazillion years does not qualify one for beatification. People in uniform are just as capable, maybe even more so, of lying to themselves as anyone else is.

The reference to betrayal was phrased as a question, asking readers to make up their own minds. That makes it even worse to suppress; we aren't even supposed to wonder, no questions asked, "Shut up and obey!".

[Harper_is_Bush]

34. Do you understand what being a traitor is? What treason is?

The alternative is not "beatification", as you say.

wow.

[samplegirl]

39. A four star General

who has never even seen combat. Armchair General nothing more.

[goclark]

9. Let's Hear It For Move On!

I loved the post that says that "the troops" named him Be Tray Us, not <ove On.

If that is a fact, Move On Should Say That In Their Ad --- hope they did.

[brentspeak]

10. None of the Democrats "apologized" for the ad

[robinlynne]

32. the ones who voted for censure did.

[samplegirl]

40. thanks

thats what I was implying

[murray hill farm]

11. The pres wants to see them bend down and kiss his feet

and they do it! Why? who knows. The real victory here is for moveon.org, because apparently they strike more fear into the repug party heart than any of the dem candidates do...so, uhhhhhhhhh.....moveon.org is very scary to them. Scary,scary, scary....to get such a freaked out reaction by one little ad. The repugs see the power of moveon.org..and they are in a panic mode by what that power implies.

[Lint Head]

13. This damn installed President and everybody ever associated with him

should apologize to the entire country for the deaths, the destruction, the lying, the treason and then be thrown into jail! :dem:

[Purveyor]

14. Because it's the "DLC" thing to do perhaps? eom

[patrice]

30. Hillary didn't vote for it.

She and Kerry voted No.

[eridani]

33. Good!

They think they need to concede at least some things to their base, which is definitely a step forward.

[patrice]

35. I'm working on a mass-fax to her and the other Nay-sayers.

We REALLY should give them our positive reinforcement!

[samplegirl]

41. I agree!

[Swamp Rat]

15. Democrats should be PROUD!!

:patriot: The ad was a greater success than I had anticipated! :applause:

[Gabi Hayes]

16. AMEN, bra...and where were the senate dems when the Swiftboat ads came out?

what would the pugs have done with a 'bill' like that?

would it have made it to the floor for a vote?

[Swamp Rat]

20. They were told to shut up and obey.

... and many did.

[Gabi Hayes]

36. you forgot consume!

[samplegirl]

42. Not on your life.

When Dems say they don't have time for this its just a weak excuse.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

44. Even if we shall never meet in person,

Swampy, you will always hold a spot in my heart as a true friend. :toast:

[C_U_L8R]

18. Apparently we can't handle the truth

or at least our elected representatives can't.

C'mon Dems.. lead or get out of the way.

[msongs]

19. "..but I will defend to my death your right to say it." oops, not some democrats

to paraphrase the entire quote (don't recall the author),

I disagree with what you say but I will defend to my death your right to say it.

msongs
www.msongs.com

[unkachuck]

22. thank you, samplegirl....

....excellent post!

....Democrats should be proud of that ad....

[samplegirl]

43. These dirty rotten

repukes have railroaded us long enough.

[Peregrine Took]

24. No true-blue Democrat would do so. Only a craven POS would cave in to the

wingnuts. I have new found respect for HRC.

[brentspeak]

37. Uh, yeah. Sure.

:eyes:

I'll listen to anything Jim Webb says than to anything you might come up with.

[Cha]

25. Recommended!

Because, they're been enabling bushit for so long they can't break the habit over night? :( Fuck if I know.

[robinlynne]

31. They should be apologizing for their fisa fuckup a month ago!