I've finally made up my mind for '08--Dennis Kucinich for president

[book_worm]

I honestly think Al Gore, my true first choice, will not run. So I'm confronted with the people we now have. Of these talented people only one is truly speaking to me--DK. He wants to end the needless slaughter in Iraq. Not only of American troops, but of the better than a million civilian Iraqis who have died thanks to George W. Bush. He has fought against this war from the start. He isn't somebody who suddenly woke up and said, "My goodness, but George Bush lied to us!" On the domestic front it is DK who has the best and simplist solution to the health care mess in this country--a single payer plan modeled after than of Canada.

Now I know some people think that DK can't win. Of course we don't know that unless he is nominated. But I think that after eight years of Bush the people will want real change, not just incremental change. Kucinich represents a new direction for the country. He will restore honesty and integrity and will do away with the so-called Patriots Act and restore the constitution. He will appoint judges who look out for all and not the few. If he becomes president DK will usher in a new beginning akin to Franklin D. Roosevelt and his "New Deal" in 1932.

Yeah, yeah, I've heard it all--he's funny looking, he's an elf, he's a flake. Granted he isn't our best looking candidate (but come-on if it's DK vs. Grandpa Thompson or old man McCain or Rudy Gouliani), but I believe the American people will care more about ideas than looks in 2008. As for being a flake? some of his ideas are new and maybe even revolutionary, but they said the same thing regardiing FDR when he first ran in '32.

So, I'm going to give my all here in Wisconsin to make it happen. Vote DK in '08

[kenfrequed]

1. Welcome

It is something I realized quite some time ago. Kucinich is the best candidate.

[Jed Dilligan]

2. At one point I would have voted for the likeliest contender

vs. Hillary, but lately I feel more like voting my conscience. (Kucinich--it's Polish for "conscience". Not really.) ;)

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

67. I've made the same evolution. I hope I have the chance to vote for him. nt

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. Good choice, my dear book_worm!

My husband and I have supported him for some time now...

I agree with everything you've said here...

It's time for him.......and for us!

K&R

:patriot:

[The Traveler]

5. Hi Peggy!

For me, it has come down to Edwards or Kucinich. I am still vacillating ... I regard them both highly.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

7. Nice to see you, my dear Traveler!

Long time no talk to...

Hope you're OK...

I prefer Kucinich over Edwards partly because of DK's single payer health plan...

But Edwards is very cool too...

:hug:

[The Traveler]

43. Nice to see you, darlin'

My real world experience has been keeping me far too busy lately. :)

[bdamomma]

35. me too, I like Edwards too.

hmmm....Dennis and John....sigh

[flvegan]

4. Good choice. This is my second time supporting him.

He was our best choice last time, and is again this time.

[Zywiec]

6. Well that should give you something to do until Super Tuesday n/t

[Red Zelda]

8. Any support for Kucinich

is pure silliness. Please, find a real and viable candidate for president. Could you imagine Kucinich as the nominee? There's not ONE repuke he could beat. Not one. He's worse than Dean.

[book_worm]

9. Now, now--did I blast any other candidate in this thread?

btw, I supported Dean in '04 and I think he might have won. I recall everybody saying that you had to vote for Kerry because he was "electable". I don't care for that arguement. Rest assured that if DK is not nominated I will not take my marbles and go home--I will support the Democratic nominee. But I fully intend to work to make sure it's DK.

[Red Zelda]

13. That's fair

Really, Kucinich has no chance. We waste our time with the likes of him and Dean much like the GOP wastes time with Pat Robertson, Alan Keyes, etc. These fringe candidates are a total waste of time. Would I vote for Kucinich if he were the nominee? That would only happen in the Twilight Zone.

[Stevepol]

61. DK is fringe?

Single-payer health care plan, Get out of Iraq? What percentage of the American people would be for that?

A Department of Peace? If allowed to explain this, I'm sure the majority of Americans would be for peace.

Are there any of his policies that the majority of Americans either go for now by over 50% or wouldn't go for if he were given time to explain his policies?

If the majority of the American people support your policies, I don't think that's a fringe candidate.

Now the media may portray him that way to make him seem like a fringe candidate, but his policies are definitely not fringe.

[Warren DeMontague]

95. Please explain how Howard Dean was a "fringe" candidate.

What, precisely, did he suggest or propose that was, to your way of thinking, "fringe"?

Yes, I'd like specifics.

[rabies1]

113. The election is still a year away ... things can happen

I'm not so quick to dismiss him. I was shocked when I went to the DC march on the 15th and saw the size of the crowd. To me, this shows that they NEED Bush et al out of office. They're livid with this war, Iran on the horizon, health care, massive corruption, etc. Maybe the public will take complete control, reject typical politicians, and vote for the candidate who refuses to be bribed or bought in any way.

[Oldenuff]

125. Not to offend you any..but

At some point in time,you have to take a stand on principle.Not a single one of the "other" candidates have anything to say, except the same old bla-bla-bla.(to me at least).Most of them appear to be bobblehead dolls nodding "on command" to the power people who pull all the strings.That seems to me to be why we never get a real standout candidate.

I hate to suggest that I might write in my candidate,but if it comes to that I will.I won't sit out the election,and I won't compromise my principles any more.

[kenfrequed]

132. wow

You really do make me feel confortable with our democracy. Do you have anything resembling idealism?

How the hell can you get elected without a sense of vision and an honest committment to change? Do you think business-as-usual Hillary has that?

Everytime we pick the 'electable' candidate it magically ends up being some unpopulist, bland, moderate, inoffensive pile that couldn't inspire someone to mow their lawn. Maybe we should finally pick someone that actually representd democratic values at their highest.

[old guy]

14. Good for you. Stay with your convictions.

I'm a DK person myself. Do I think he will be the nominee? Probably not, but I won't stop supporting him until he says he is done. Then I will vote against the repub candidate.

[FREEWILL56]

91. Maybe if we did vote for Dean back then

he wouldn't have let Ohio slip right past him with so much at stake and the controversy surrounding much of that state just like Florida in the previous fiasco. I won't forget that Kerry promised that he would not let the election slide when confronted with a Florida like situation and voila he broke his promise and handed it in record time. RED whatever, I will vote for DK in the primaries as that's my choice and my right and no red whatever should be telling anybody here to not vote for anybody unless it is to not vote red. Got it red?

[TahitiNut]

17. The more I hear "liberals" say this, the more I'm inclined to vote for him ...

... including as a write-in in the General Election. I can't stand hypocrisy - whether it's from the left or the right. When people who call themselves "Democrats" or "liberals" abandon the values of FDR and Kennedy and Wellstone, and the interests of the working class and the poor ... becoming just an echo of corporate droids ... the more I'm inclined to turn my back on such clay-footed appeasement and say "Fuck it!"

[Individualist]

23. Same here

If a neocon enabling DLCer is the nominee, I'll write-in Kucinich.

[Red Zelda]

31. Nice one

Yeah, if he doesn't get the nomination, just write him in. Get all your friends to do that, too. Just like voting for Nader.

[TahitiNut]

36. Spoken like the political cowards and appeasers who can't take responsibility for their own failures

People who claim to be "democrats" but display pathological antipathy for democracy. People too cowardly to take a firm stance against the Quislings in their own appeasement party like Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson and try to bully folks who stand up for their own principles.

It's understandable that people with atrophied consciences cannot comprehend how others are guided by their consciences, and can only attack and demean their choices instead of addressing those core issues with commitment and courage.

One of the first signs of moral corruption is sneering at and demeaning those who don't sell out their own principles.

[superkia]

39. I dont understand the logic of people like that?

I have noticed that they never really say anything about the issues Kucinich stands for or the message he spreads of a political system working for the people. He stands for what we want and they try to knock him and his supporters down with smart ass comments instead of comparing their candidates stands and issues to Kucinichs? I wonder why that is? He is the candidate that stands for the people and that is very important to me. I don't want another president that cares more about money, their political career and the corporations that keep them in power. Dennis Kucinich would be the strongest blow to the run by money political system.

[Red Zelda]

40. Fine. Support him in the primaries.

But to say you'd write-in Kucinich if he did not get the nomination is the same logic of the Nader voter who stuck by his/her "principles" and damaged Gore/Kerry in the process.
In that case, your "principles" are just as damaging to the country as voting for Bush.
Wake up!

And try to get over the Kucinich disease. Hey - maybe he can run as a third-party candidate with Dean. It would be intriguing to watch how many wasted votes they'd get and stick us all with that nazi Guiliani in the process.

[superkia]

45. Again, less with the attacks and more with the issues please.

First off, I didn't mention writing anyone in. Second, when someone sees the world different from you, it doesn't mean they are the ones that have to wake up, maybe it is your principles that are skewed, I don't know you so I don't know your thought process so I wont attack your principles. Your response pointed out exactly what I previously said, please join the us here on DU to help further the political process and help educate people to make educated decisions during a critical time in our history. Your attacks do nothing but make democrats look like negative republicans, this is how they defend their positions.

I see things different from you and many here at DU, I see our country completely frustrated at the political system and the corrupt politicians at an all time high in my lifetime. I believe that the honest, straightforward approach, addressing the true issues in our country like Dennis Kucinich has been doing, will get the most voters out and voting democratic. People are sick of whats been happening to our country, I don't think it compares to 2004. The American people want change in politics, they want a president who makes the people number one. Not the politicians personal agendas number one. This is what I think many people miss about Clinton, she is looked at as Bush light and hurts our chances in the election.

I dont want a murderer as my neighbor but I wont go for next best thing and take a drug dealer either. So do I give up or fight to get the school teacher in next door? I choose to vote with reason and my conscience, thats why I will vote Kucinich in the primaries. We should all be fighting for the best chance at change, not the easiest candidate to get in at all costs.

[ProudDad]

85. Thanks, Red Zelda!

I was wondering what to do. I had originally intended to vote "none of the above" if hillary got the nomination but you've given me a better idea...I'll write in Kucinich!!!

Thanks :bounce:

[Warren DeMontague]

93. Wow. You mean we're ALLOWED to support whoever we want in the primaries?

How fucking generous of you!

[ShortnFiery]

120. "And try to get over the Kucinich disease."

And where have I seen these gutter tactics used before? :eyes:

God Bless Dennis Kucinich - no more will I lay down for DLC's disgusting efforts at intimidating and degrading LIBERALS. No more!!! :patriot:

"The Party" has been taken hostage by corporate democrats.

I'm greatly saddened that "the party" has left me. :(

[soulcore]

138. So why exactly is he a fringe candidate?

Are there some crazy issues that he supports that are way outside the norm?

Too anti-war for you? Too anti-corporation for ya?

Or maybe he's just too pro-constitution.

I will be writing in DK as well. I refuse to compromise my integrity and vote for a DNC beltway insider.

It's time for change, real change.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

142. I smell disease... it is not emanating from Kucinich however.

Take your diatribe and spew it somewhere else.

[TahitiNut]

42. It's the "domino effect" of bullying and cowardice.

Bullies have usually been bullied themselves. Bullies are cowards. Many of those who 'compromise' and 'cooperate' with tyrants become bullies against those who refuse to join them. It's a cascading effect. Hated most are those who hold on to their principles - becuase they make the cowardice of those who surrender their principles more stark. So, they wind up - not standing against the tyranny - but attacking those who do.

It's usually very evident in the cynicism - sneering at principles and values. It's bar-room braggadocio. They want to point the finger of blame at others (usually smaller and more outspoken individuals) when they themselves are responsible for their own cowardice and clay feet.

[ShortnFiery]

123. Further, if you look at the wide variety of positions on various topics, BULLIES tend

to be for those who *demand* that people default automatically to Authority Figures. They are "usually" the ones who criticize the tactics of our activists as "stupid and impolite."

More recently, those who default to attacks also are IMO, far too harsh on people who "they deem" less than they are, i.e., by whatever arbitrary definition Authoritarian Personas use to justify HATE.

Yes, BULLIES are the ones that people "paralyzed by fear" (many USA citizens due to all the fear-mongering by our Unitary Executive) will quietly try to avoid.

However, the only way to DROP a bully is to get in his/her face and challenge him/her. I've noticed over the years of living in traditional authoritarian cultures (military bases), that good soldiers DESPISE the bullies. In fact, when in combat, they're the very first to be fragged. :wow: :evilgrin: :scared:

Nope, I compromised for the DLC with regard to Presidential Elections since 1992. I had mixed feelings but I always submitted to voting for the Democratic Nominee.

Today? In General, the Democratic Party despises it's liberal base. TODAY I feel a ZERO sense responsibility OR loyalty to "the party" that has gone A.W.O.L. on me. :thumbsdown:

[TahitiNut]

151. "good soldiers DESPISE the bullies"

Yes ... that's part of what I'd call a "good soldier," too. It's almost unquestionable that the military attracts some marginally sociopathic folks ... but it also attracts some folks who truly believe in some things called 'honor' and 'duty.' What distinguishes them from the authoritarians in an authoritarian culture is often not evident without knowing the people a bit more thoroughly than a pollster, but it's there. Some of the most superficially 'macho' guys I knew were, upon closer examination, some truly idealistic people I've ever met.

Almost nothing portrays the BANKRUPTCY of principles and values more than the resort to threats and blame-mongering by those who'd DEMAND compliance - the specious 'logic' of "you're either with us or you're with the terrorists." No matter how often people of conscience honestly and sincerely describe the values upon which they make their choices, the bullies and hijackers display an abject paucity of both comprehension and respect. These Vichy Dems never take responsibility for their failures - always picking on the scapegoats uneasily riding their own bandwagon than on more effectively and honestly opposing the tyranny of the Reich.

Quite frankly, it appears to me that they're not as much OPPOSED to that tyranny than ENVIOUS of the power it offers. (This is why the 'Vichy' metaphor is so apt.)

I think it's very important to distinguish between ENVY and OPPOSITION. It's not always evident except upon more careful consideration.

[Red Zelda]

47. Strongest blow?

I give up. You are seriously imagining a President Kucinich?
That's as far removed from reality as President Nader or President Sharpton.
Dream all you want, I'm just trying to get through all the pot smoke in the room and get some people here to realize that Kucinich, a minor career politician from a dead city, has NO chance and support for him is a total waste of energy.

[Chipper Chat]

No one gave Lincoln a chance either.

He was ugly, gawky, homely, and crude. And everyone knew a republican had no chance against the strong democrats. Hell, the Whigs were now flocking to the democratic party!
Yeah, supporting Abe Lincoln was just a waste of energy.

[dbonds]

130. Instead of declaring he has no chance...

why don't you tell why he had no chance, and how that could be fixed. Don't declare him out of the race because the msm says so, work to get the word out for him. He is the best candidate by every measure except media coverage.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

143. So say you, and IMO,

you are a blight to those that would aspire to exact real change.

[ChipperbackDemocrat]

150. Kucinich packs the strongest punch

"Kucinich, a minor career politician from a dead city, has NO chance and support for him is a total waste of energy."


The real waste of energy Zelda is voting for someone who isn't standing up for what you want.

Here's what I want.

1. I want a universal single-payer health care system built a model of prevention and wellness.
2. I want to see United States regain respect around the world by ending this fruitness military adventure in Iraq.
3. I want labor to be respected, protected and defended in this country again.
4. I want a nation that rebuilding its schools and infrastructure.
5. I want a United States that leads a committment to peaceful solutions to problems and issue here at home and abroad.

In short, I want a United States of America that's ready to function in the 21st century...not the 20th or the 19th.

In my mind, only one candidate is talking about these issues in a forward-thinking manner. Only one candidate is thinking of an America for the years ahead, not trying to sell an image of the past.

That candidate is Dennis Kucinich.

His problem? Change. Some people don't like it.

A President Kucinich means C-H-A-N-G-E...And that is something that threatens a lot of powerful interest.

Preisdent Kucinich means, Grover Norquist and the K Street Bunch have to find real jobs. The big buck lobbies for the few won't get much play in a White House that comes from the ground up. The lobbyists who work for those who ship the job overseas? Forgetaboutit.

The defense contractors? A Department Of Peace won't play to well with them. After all, a President Kucinich means they'll get a lot less Rockwellfare. The defense industry depends on a "President Deion Sanders". They want an "Asskickin', Crotch Grabbin', Six Shootin', Trash Talkin' Commando-In-Chief!" When you have a Ronnie Ray-Gun in offense, you get all the ADC you can get. (Aid to Defense Contractors)

The Go-to-war J.R. Ewing Crowd? President Kucinich would be like building an Olympic-sized holy water swimming pool in the Devil's backyard.

Big Pharma and Big Health Insurance? President Kucinich kills their biggest cash cows, and they know it.

And that's not to dis the other candidates. I like the Democrats running overall.

Joe Biden is a good man, but I'm leery of anybody who try to sell themselves as "The Reality Based Candidate"...just like I'm leery of the "Political Professional". I often find that the "reality based" are living in fantasyland a lot more than in the real world. And the "Pros" have gotten the country into the mess they are in.

Hillary Clinton? Immense capable politician. My problem? Her votes on the war for starters..and her platform on a number of issues. She wants to try to sell a return to the Clinton 1990s. What happened to that "Bridge to the 21st century"? The 21st century is here and there's still a big hole where the bridge goes..and her policies don't address that.

Barack Obama? I like the guy. He's green, but he's sharp. In my mind he's not sharp enough, yet. This is a guy who is sending some mixed signals. On one hand he want to talk peace, that talk about loading six guns against Pakistan and Iran and trying to be Billy Bad-Ass.

John Edwards? He talks the talk....but in the Senate he would waver in walking the walk. If you are going to take them on, your legislative record doesn't always show it. I like that he's showing his populist spine, but it has to be more than just a show.

Bill Richardson? Good guy, but much like Hillary in that he's trying to sell the past instead of plan for a future.

But when I put Dennis Kucinich again the others, it come down to what he's done and where he stands for me.
He has what I call the "Three Bs"

1. BELIEF -- He believes in what this nation is really about and has casted the votes and put forth the policies to back it up.

2. BRAINS -- He had the brains to read the Patriot Act. He had the brains to see through this "war". He has the brains to put forth the proposals beyond the status quo.

3. BALLS -- He had the balls to stare down the big banks in Cleveland in 1979. He had the balls to put his butt on the line for Muny Light..and he was proven right. It cost him a job. It cost him power. It cost him some friends. It cost him influence, etc. He had the balls to stand up in 2002 and 2003 and call BS on this "war". He had the balls to take the slights and the laughter...and he was proven right. He had the balls to say the Patriot Act was a bad idea. Other Democrats went along to get along...yet 5'6" elf from Cleveland stood firm. He has the balls to call for single-payer universal health care, knowing that the big money will be riding against him. The person who is willing to put him or herself on the line for something bigger than themselves is the person I want in the White House.

Dennis isn't a waste of time in my mind...because he wants to build the America I want to live in. I'll march right along side him.

[subsuelo]

126. exactly - the issues are always ignored by anti-DK folks

it's always vilification and some other "reason" to stay away from Dennis. But it's never ever about the issues.

[paulk]

48. it's "democracy" to vote for a candidate who isn't even on the

ticket, and has no chance to win?

I'd call it stupidity, myself.

Yeah, I know that's gonna piss you off, you with your high and mighty moral convictions, but if you had ANY sort of social conscience at all you'd be doing your damndest to right what's wrong with this country and that sure as fuck doesn't mean helping Republicans win, which is what a write-in vote would do.

If your "principles" extend to saddling this country and the rest of the world with another Republican administration, then they deserve every last sneer, IMHO...


ed for grammar

[TahitiNut]

49. Typical resort to personal attacks and insults from self-anointed "seers".

Is that all you got? :shrug: Pitiful.

[paulk]

51. and to think I actually expected you to defend your post

I'm gonna call 'em like I see 'em from here on out.

What's "pitiful" is anyone who's not going to vote for the Dem nominee next year.

[TahitiNut]

65. You should do the Democratic Party a favor ...

... and affiliate with the GOP. Your GOTV 'skills' would be more helpful there. :shrug:

[paulk]

73. anyone who won't vote for the Democratic nominee

is not a member of the Democratic Party.

If the threat of another Republican Administration isn't enough to get someone to the ballot box, then I doubt there's little I could say to persuade them.

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[ProudDad]

87. Wow, when did Dean

appoint you to decide who's a "Democrat" and who isn't?

I guess I didn't get the memo...

[paulk]

137. I would think logic would dictate that, not Howard Dean

How can a person who doesn't vote for a party's nominee call themself a member of that party?

I'm sure Dr. Dean would agree - isn't it the DNC chairman's job to get people to vote Democratic?

Why you you need a memo for something so basic as that?

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[Ken Burch]

163. Just admit you're DLC and stfu.

You can't be a progressive and be THIS rabidly anti-Kucinich.

Progressives who back anyone else in the primaries are self-loathing and are voting to abandon their principles.

We don't have to settle for a bland centrist hack.

[redqueen]

26. Disagree completely... I think he'd win easily in the general...

He presents the CLEAREST choice for a new direction, and has policy positions that have widespread support.

He'd be GREAT! :bounce:

[Red Zelda]

41. Sorry.

Kucinich couldn't beat Tancredo/Brownback. The M$M would tear him apart, leaving him as a comic book cross between Jerry Brown and Dukakis, and preserving the Bush cancer.

[redqueen]

44. Oh yeah... they'll tear any candidate apart.

So that's guaranteed, no matter who gets the nod.

The thing that makes Kucinich less vulnerable to that, IMO, is the positions he's courageous enough to take a firm stand on.

These are all VERY popular, and would garner him widespread support, no matter how many idiotic non-issues the whore media vomits out at us:

- ending the failed sham that is the war on drugs
- ending the race to the bottom via WTO and NAFTA and other harmful trade agreements
- ensuring there are no US troops permanently stationed in Iraq

[druidity33]

54. don't forget

the reason he takes positions is that he BELIEVES IN THEM. He's done his research, HE CAN SPEAK INTELLIGIBLY on the issues. He's not going to get flustered or caught off guard. He can handle attacks. He's had shit like this slung at him for so long. Everytime i've seen or heard him speak it has been with passion and clarity, about things that I REALLY CARE ABOUT.

I don't waste my time responding to any Kucinich utterance formed in the EXTREME NEGATIVE. I will be doing my part by flyering in NH next month and donating money and phone support for his campaign. Why don't people care to listen? (here's the answer you'll hear most often: "because he can't win"... circular logic at best). Our mission is to GET THEM TO LISTEN or read or at least do a little freakin research fer cryin' out loud. Has any Kucinich naysayer ever been able to point to something substantive that would make him an inadequate candidate?

Oh sure you'll get people saying, "but he was pro-life!" or "he was a shitty Mayor of Cleveland!" or "his wife is half his age!" or "he looks like an elf!"

But really, even when he was "pro-life" it was a personal decision (it never affected his policy). As for being a shitty Mayor, people that say that should go to Cleveland, Ohio and ask around on the streets and see how regular folk feel about DK. His wife? She's got a tongue stud and is totally hot, i don't think she'll be stopping him from getting the job. As for the elf thing, i don't know about anyone else here, but i've been a Lord of the Rings fan for long enough to know the elves are really fucking cool. So if he's an elf then i'm down with it. After all, they are wiser...

:)

[cyclezealot]

107. you have not read the latest polls.

Couple weeks ago. A legitimate poll. Don't know if I can still find it. / It's a bit early, but Kucinich polled in the mid 40 percentile against Romeny, McCain, Thompson. I thought that was pretty good, for a guy who won't sell out his soul for special interest campaign cash.

[GMFORD]

134. This is the closest you have come to

giving even the semblance of a reason why Kucinich is a bad choice. But the reason is bogus. Kucinich has been interviewed on the MSM numerous times and he has handled himself very well. He never gets rattled, he answers any question put to him with dignity. He's one of the few who was interviewed on Faux - can't get any more hostile than that.

So far your argument is
1) DK is a 'fringe' candidate - whatever that means.
2) DK supporters are a bunch of pot smokers - got any statistics on that? Maybe we need a poll.
3) DK would be torn up by the MSM - got an example of him being torn up in the past?

Can you come up with a more substantive argument why DK is a bad choice? Something based on his positions on the issues?

[soulcore]

139. I am a proud DK supporting pot smoker ;)

Just so we can be clear on that.

You can try to offend and browbeat and downtalk all you want to us, but this talk of him being "unelectable" sounds like OP talking point to me.

Anyone have any REAL reasons why I shouldn't support and vote for the man?

[zeemike]

146. I think you are wrong there

Not that they would not try but that they would be successfully at it.
I suspect that he would rip them right back in the Harry Truman style and the new democratic slogan would be "Give them hell Denis"
It has been a long time sense we had a strait talking democrat like that and we desperately need a new one.

[fenriswolf]

30. real candidate?

as far as i am concerned he is the only "real" candidate

[Rainbowreflect]

38. Why silliness? Because he speaks the truth?

Because he was smart enough to vote against invading Iraq? Because he stands up to the powers that be? Because he fights for the weak, the poor and the powerless? Or just because you buy into the media's B.S.?

[superkia]

46. I think he would destroy any republican standing next to him.

They have only political spin to stand on, he presents straight facts that support the American people. I don't think Americans as angry as they are with the system are that stupid like some do. Now Clinton vs. Republican and you have a good spin war going and we might just see another republican president. :puke:

[book_worm]

58. I agree

[mudesi]

56. Of course he can't win. The media told you so!

:eyes:

[Blecht]

79. Kucinich the Kook!

It sure didn't take long for somebody to use a kooky word like "silly" in describing Mr. Kucinich, did it?

The people are finally seeing through the propaganda, and I for one am started to believe that Kucinich actually has a shot. He has always been the best man for the job, and he has my support.

[Warren DeMontague]

90. "He's worse than Dean". Er, I supported Kerry in the primaries in '04 because he was the "sensible"

choice.

BIG FUCKIN' MISTAKE.

Here's a news flash: Dean would have been the far SUPERIOR candidate, IMHO.

[cyclezealot]

103. and did Kerry win.

I suggest Americans are fed up with cameleon's without backbone. That is why they once elected Reagan. I hope not because they agreed with him , but that he is real. Not only are some of the Democratic pick cameleon's , but even worse- panderers to some pretty un Democratic elements. DK is the only one that I suspect if for real.

[cyclezealot]

104. being that DK has not sold his soul

example Hillary to Murdock. Should DK not be our nominee, its snooze time for this Democrat. No more triangulation for us thank you. . All she would get is my vote and nothing more. After Hillary's health care plan, I am afraid I might not even wake up from my early November snooze. I'll stick to the issues/ thank you.

[Ken Burch]

162. There's no other candidate that's worth any enthusiastic progressive support

HRC is conservative.

Obama isn't committed to anything strong.

Edwards has passion but is still too centrist in the end(although he's tolerable).

Gravel is unhinged.

Richardson is DLC(if you STILL back NAFTA, you aren't progressive on anything).

Dodd has no support.

Biden has no support and his combover sucks.

Dennis is the only progressive in the race. And he's done nothing to deserve your insane hatred.

Only Kucinich delegates will fight for a progressive platform. The others will all settle for nothing but victory in name.

[Bjornsdotter]

165. And apparently someone elected you

...to tell everyone who a "real and viable candidate" is.....sorry I missed that election.:eyes:

Could I imagine DK, why yes I could.....imagine the possiblities

Cheers

[bigtree]

10. I wonder if we'll see a shift in the coming months as the majority of voters focus in on the race?

right now, we have the die-hards chiming in. I wonder if there will be a realigning of the support?

[Nothing Without Hope]

11. He's the speaker of truth, and he isn't owned by the corporations.

If more people were allowed by the corporate media to hear what he's been saying for years, he'd have a much larger following. There needs to be a loud, obnoxious penalty buzzer sound whenever a Democrat, including those at DU, says "he's not electable." Why bother trying, if you call defeat at the beginning of the fight? Dare to believe it CAN be done. At the worst, giving him more of a platform to be heard will spread his truth-speaking further.

He's the truth-teller, and he has sensible ideas. No wonder all the corporate enablers in both parties try to distort and bury his message!

K & R

[damntexdem]

12. Good. Now if you can make up the minds of millions of others ...

Kucinich would have a choice. I'd like him to be the candidate -- and to be elected -- too.

[GreenTea]

15. Kucinich just need your donation....

He has the least amount of money of any major Dem candidate running.

http://www.dennis4president.com/

[book_worm]

20. thanks for the link

[OnyxCollie]

78. I just donated $15. nt

[ProudDad]

88. And he's doing the most with it

The others all track linearly to the money they've raised. Kucinich polls much higher in proportion to the money he's raised.

Imagine if he had $40 or $50 Million...

There wouldn't be a contest...

[Think82]

16. Let me ask you this...

If Kucinich actually wins, do you think he will be able to build any kind of bipartisan consensus to get things done? Every candidate wants out of iraq, energy reform, and healthcare reform. They ALL do. The next president will need to rally people to his or her side to get ANY of this done. I know Kucinich tells the far-left peace-loving wing of the party things they want to hear, but it's often far from practical and there is NO WAY he'll be able to build bi-partisan consensus for anything. Nice guy, though...

[book_worm]

19. A Kucinich victory would be so monumental and such a clear expression of the will

of the people that even the Republicans in congress will get on board to removing the troops from Iraq and ending that bloody conflict. Now can he work with congress on other issues--I think he can. But he will also stand up for his beliefs. Look, I'm not saying it will be easy to nominate Kucinich, but if he is--and he wins--I think it would be a defining election and that he will bring in many like-minded people and will have a congress which will work with him.

[JANdad]

55. He can work with Congress you say?

In the last two congressional sessions, he has NOT passed ANY legislation that he authored. A lot of legislation that he co-sponsored, but NOTHING that he authored himself...

[superkia]

63. I believe that he would stand up to the corruption and give us...

a much needed voice. No other candidate is standing up for us like he is. Getting a congress to follow you with money from corporations controlling every move is almost impossible for any candidate, that is a bad argument to knock him. I think if he was the president speaking to the people with his honest and straightforward approach to whats going on in the system, the American public would finally wake up and rally behind him. If a president stood up in an address to the nation and said " citizens the system is blocking all my efforts to protect your rights, to end the war and keeping the power in the hands of the corporations, you need to call your representitives daily, hit the streets in peaceful protests and help me give power back to the people!"

Can you really say that Americans wouldn't wake up then, I mean everyone, we would have a chance at getting our country back instead of giving in to the run by money system like most are doing now and have done in the past.I think he is the only one that would stand up and get that response which would have the best chance at ever giving the system back to the people. Do we give and say lets not try because it probably wont work? I think our rights as Americans is extremely important and the power needs to come back to the people.

There is no other candidate that will stand up to the system and do that, none! The proof is in the campaigns they run, he is the only one standing up for us now. So if we go with most peoples ideas, we are saying lets give up on our freedoms and our country and take the lesser of the evils. Just a country of quitters, is that what we are? Is that why the world is really starting to lose respect for us, maybe its the fact that many countries people die because they are fighting their corrupt government while we sit and take it.

[cali]

149. I'm voting for Dennis in my primary, but

I'm under no illusion that he'll win. I'm voting for him as an edorsement of his ideas. Having said that, I don't know that he'd be an effective President. Reference Jimmy Carter as someone DC chewed up and spat out. And the truth is, Dennis' Congressional record doesn't reflect that he's effective. Compare him, for instance, to Bernie.

[ProudDad]

89. Golly, Gee, Shucks

you mean (yuck, yuck, duh) dat the REPUBLICANS didn't allow ANY Kucinich legislation to come to a vote or pass...

Wow, you've sure convinced me... I feel soooooo dumb...






NOT!




So how much did Edwards pass and get signed into law -- good stuff, that is?

How about hillary -- how's that health care plan she passed to cover the uninsured workin' out?

How about Obama...I don't remember him passing anything ending the Iraq Invasion/Occupation or aiding folks whose jobs are getting outsourced...

[madmunchie]

145. And Edwards co sponsored and voted for the IWR

Which is the worst action of the two?

[redqueen]

27. Yes I do.

Bush has been able to push through whatever he wants, no matter if the people are behind him or not.

DK with a Dem house and senate will be able to do LOTS because not only will he have a dem house and senate, he will also have the will of the people behind him on many major, major issues.

[RangerRK]

37. "do you think he will be able to build any kind of bipartisan consensus to get things done?"

We need to do more than get him elected.

We need to replace almost the entire Congress who has been enabling Bush.

We need real Americans(not politicians) like Cindy Sheehan to stand up together and take back our country.

We need every day citizens to start running in the primaries now.

[ProudDad]

97. When Kucinich becomes President

he will only need 218 votes in the House...

and 51 in the Senate...(sometimes 60 if it's stuff that's REALLY good for the People)

"Bi-partisan" be damned...

[FREEWILL56]

100. Who cares about bipartisan consensuses?

The r cons haven't, don't, and won't and the idea is not to negotiate with terrorists isn't it? It's time to put democracy back into our own country and negotiating with the likes of the republicon party is futile as you may as well try negociating with Osama and you'd get better results I'm sure.

[Ken Burch]

164. Why even BOTHER with "bipartisan consensus"?

All that ever happens in "bipartisan consensus" in this country is that we cave in to the GOP demands and they never give us anything in return.

No one will ever be a "moderate" Republican again.

Clinton never did anything after '94 but approve all GOP legislation like a robot. We can assume HRC, faced with a Republican Congress, would do the same, since she also has no passionate convictions.

[Individualist]

18. He'll get my vote

DK is the antithesis of everything the neocon enabling DLC stands for.

[againes654]

21. Good choice

He has been my choice for months now. He makes the most sense, but I continue to hear, "I like him, but...." If everyone that said that would tell 20 people about him, we never know where we could be. If we assume from jump that he won't win, then we as the Dem party have lost it for him.

I personally am doing everything I can in Texas, which is not easy btw, but I will continue support for Kucinich until he is no longer on the ballot.

IMO, his best chance is as VP candidate with Edwards. I actually think that could happen, but what do I know.

[redqueen]

22. Welcome aboard!

:toast:

:thumbsup:

[lateo]

24. I'm with you there.

I tried sticking with the establishment candidate. It isn't working. The only way to get change it to stand behind people who you believe share your values and work for them.

[DurShar]

25. Nobody but Dennis Kucinich in 2008.

He is the only chance we have to make this country great again.

[Greyhound]

28. Welcome, here's a K & R for you.

You are an example of what is needed right now, somebody that is more concerned with improving the state of the union than personal aggrandizement. He is smart and, perhaps more importantly, right.

The next President will be faced with crises, the likes of which this nation has not faced for generations, and we need a leader that can build consensus between the disparate peoples of this country and work on their behalf, not between politicians and corporations.
:kick: & R

[RangerRK]

29. Right on!

Here are some flyers to pass around

Kucinich on the Issues
http://dk2008.us/issues

12 Point Plan to End the Iraq War
http://dk2008.us/endthewar

[RangerRK]

32. Peace and love in the Whitehouse

We deserve this after everything that has happened.

Time to take our country back!

[zeemike]

148. Dam his wire is so beautiful

And I understand quite smart and caring.
What a refreshing change for a first lady.

[slipslidingaway]

33. Welcome K&R n/t

[bdamomma]

34. you know if all the people who say he won't get in, if

all those voted for him, he probably be nominated.

[RushIsRot]

50. DK has my vote as long as his name is on a ballot.

[Cleita]

52. Welcome aboard,

Now he needs $50 from you. You don't have to give it all at once. I send in $10 a month. He's trying to get his campaign funds from grass roots so he's sorely missing all that corporate moolah the other candidates are getting. If we all put in our $50 he can do it.

[cosmicdot]

53. knr

[sellitman]

57. Nobody comes close.

DK for President!

[Stevepol]

59. K&R!!

[Rainscents]

60. He is my choice too!

[CreekDog]

62. This should please the Amen corner at DU

[jackster]

64. I made my mind up for Dennis this week too!

nice coincidence!

[Vidar]

66. Great choice & welcome aboard.

[snappyturtle]

68. My hubby and I have been deciding for quite some time now about

which candidate best speaks to us. As much as we would love to see Gore run, if that does not come to be, we could easily vote for Kucinich! We like what he has to say....what's more important than that?

[FREEWILL56]

101. I was thinking DK before, but

when I saw the footage of him leading an antiwar rally in Walker, Maine and then helping somebody who had fallen ill due to the heat, that did it for me. How many cadidates would do either of those things? He's one of us for sure.

[snappyturtle]

131. And,I bet DK would allow an attendee of one of his rallies to wear

a t-shirt that says, "Troops Home Now". Hilliary wouldn't.

[soulcore]

140. THANK YOU!

Why would you want to vote GOP-Fascist Light(tm)?

[snappyturtle]

144. You're welcome!

I guess i'm a little thick....I don't understand your question. I think I know what the GOP-Facist Light is but what is 'tm'? Sorry.

[FREEWILL56]

166. I might be wrong, but

I think it's for 'TRADE MARK'.

[snappyturtle]

167. I thought that too because tm always means that to me and it

just didn't seem to fit! Thanks for helping! :hi:

[TSIAS]

69. K+R

[Maat]

70. We campaign for him out here!

Welcome!

:hi:

[Faygo Kid]

71. His fight against AARP will likely put him over the top.

I know the depth of hatred here for AARP, but to not acknowledge many of the positions they take for people, and their role in stopping Bush's privatization of Social Security - the one unequivocal defeat of the guy we have enjoyed - is disingenous. Apparently, that's his strategy. In all sincerity, good luck with it. I would have thought his consistent and principled opposition to the war would have been his most effective approach, but I am no political strategist, and I guess equating AARP with Halliburton will work best. I look forward to his convention acceptance speech.

[ProudDad]

98. What "depth of hatred for AARP"????

As for Dennis' blast at their "health care forum", I agree with him 100%

AARP's MAIN money maker is "Supplementary Medicare Insurance". They partner with the health insurance mafia to stick folks with this turkey.

So yes, AARP has a vested interest in maintaining the health insurance status quo and the inadequate coverage provided by Medicare...

It wouldn't even be necessary if Medicare included everyone and were fully funded...HR676 - Single Payer Health Care for ALL...

AARP has DEFINITELY picked the wrong group to climb into bed with and the people should be told about it.

I too, look forward to his acceptance speech. :hi:

[toughboy]

72. K and R - Great Post. We need more of them

Go Kucinich!

I'm certain I'm voting for Clinton at this point, but I would be pleased and honored to vote for DK if he wins the primaries. He has some very cool ideas and I trust him to always speak his mind.

You presented your choice and didn't trash anyone in the process. This country needs more Democrats and more people like you! They also need to listen to DK for what he has to say instead of talking about his appearance or chances.

This should be about a great big dialog where attacks on other candidates are just not allowed.

Thanks for your post!

[eridani]

74. I don't care whether or not he can get nominated

It isn't about him, it's about the issues he's carrying the banner for.

[rhett o rick]

76. I would gladly choose DK, but we must not let him, Obama and Edwards split up our

votes. We must decide on one of them otherwise HRC will be our candidate.

[f the letter]

77. i am so tired of the argument that he is unelectable.

Anybody who chooses to vote for a candidate they don't believe in on the grounds that they might win may as well vote for anyone but the candidate they believe in.

In a race where more or less everybody is in bed with the worst of the special interests / corporate interests, there is no reason to vote for anyone but one who stands up. If someone else would support impeachment and single-payer healthcare i might change my mind here. Until that occurs (don't hold your breath), go Kucinich.

[frog92969]

80. Kucitizen book_worm

Welcome to the club!
Now let's get our country back.

[Hoof Hearted]

81. cough, cough.

In other news, Crawford Tx, is relocated to a barrier island.

[tomp]

82. kucinich is the only candidate worth voting for, period.

the rest are at best second class.

[Yukari Yakumo]

83. I doubt his sincerity on the issues

He was pro-life and against stem cell research until one week announcing his candidacy in '04. Now, if had some kind of real epiphany that lead him to switch, I'd cut him some slack. However, all he has done is say everything the far left has ever wanted to hear. So excuse me for having doubts about his positions. Furthermore, what legislation has he been involved with supports his position? You'd think he or his personality cult would roll any of this out, but I've never seen or heard anything showing his sincerity on the issues.

Furthermore he is not treating the election seriously anyway. He has no staffers or offices in Iowa. And note the places Kuch has campaigned at; Hawaii, California, and Florida. And yet, no offices or staffers in Iowa. I think his campaign is a scam to go on vacations on other peoples dime in the name of "campaigning".

[lakeguy]

84. DK is the only choice as far as i'm concerned...

and i'm tired of those who say he can't win. exactly what stances does he have that would not appeal to the general public? the guy plain kicks ass, stood up to the mafia, and will stand up for americans. why shouldn't he get everyone's vote...except for those who are happy with the status quo of course.

[Norrin Radd]

92. k+r

[Mind_your_head]

94. Amen! DK's "cred's" are 'rock-solid'/long-term

....I don't agree with him 100% (90% would be more accurate).....but that's a GREAT PERCENTAGE (and a GREAT KUCINICH!!!)

[Warren DeMontague]

96. I'm voting for Kucinich in the primary. And I will support our nominee whoever he or she is.

I trust our friends who don't support Kucinich in the primary will "get on board" when he wins the nomination!

Edit: Yeah, obviously that's barring a Gore entry.

[ShortnFiery]

127. "get on board" ? No you've already have thrown liberals off of "the boat"

I've been there "for the party" since 1992. No more. Not until the leadership addresses the needs of the WORKING (wage-slave) people.

No, I will not lay down for the DLC's nominee again. :thumbsdown:

[Warren DeMontague]

161. Did you read my post?

No, I don't think you did. Try going back and reading it again.

I haven't thrown anybody off ANY boat, Cap'n Queeg.

But, whatever. I'm voting for Kucinch in the primary, and then I'm supporting our nominee whoever he or she is. So shoot me.

[snot]

99. I'm with you. nt

[cboy4]

102. I am very fond of DK. I haven't made up my mind completely,

but I can very easily vote for him.

There's not a major issue I disagree with him about. Not one.

[bjobotts]

105. Kucinich is the only candidate who will bring a real change. Ahead of the rest

Kucinich been there and done that on everything. He best fits everyones projected wishes for a candidate. Electability is not an issue with this presidential campaign so if he wins the nomination he will be the next president. After the horror of Bush and with the GOP hopefuls all being such a joke, Dems will win the presidency by default. Nominate Kucinich. He WILL make a big difference and not just more of the same. His list of credits far surpasses the other candidates. No need to compromise on a candidate this time because of "electability" bullshit. Kucinich has it all.

Kucinich/Edwards '08...the truth ticket. They can't be bought and don't owe special interest corporations. Make it happen. For once get the best we have...Kucinich/Edwards '08...that's the ticket.

[B Calm]

106. If he wins Iowa, he has my full support!

[Roland99]

108. Woo hoo! Welcome aboard! I made up my mind for him when I 1st heard his health plan ideas.

You know there's a Kucinich MySpace page, too?
http://www.myspace.com/denniskucinich

[0007]

109. Good for you! He's the only one I can vote for this time around

and I been around for a long fucking time.

Vote Dennis Kucinich

[Maryland Liberal]

110. ABH - (Anybody But Hillary)

is fine with me. I like the way DK is out in front on the impeachment issue

[patrioticintellect]

119. You say that...

...as if "anybody but a Republican" has worked. We've got to quit this "anybody but" thing. It kills politics and it kills the future of the American people when we subscribe to that.

[1monster]

111. I came to the same conclusion about three months ago. Let's hope

more and more Democrats make the same choice and soon.

on edit: P.S. I like elves! :D

[Odin2005]

112. People who think Kucinich has a chance in hell are either naive or fooling themselves.

He's evolving into the perennial back-of-the-pack candidate that gets a few votes from the ideological purists but few else.

[Roxy66]

121. I like his politics too, but unfortunatly this is the age of Television.....

Lincoln never would have been elected in these times. Thank god we didnt have t.v. then.

[Odin2005]

153. That plays a part in in, but also there is the fact that just because one is a good legislator...

...it does not follow from that to assume that person is a good administrator/executive. The skills and personality needed to be a good congressperson are not necessarily the same as the skills and personality that makes for good presidents.

[NotGivingUp]

158. You folks sound like the mainstream media. Boo! Hiss! n/t

[Odin2005]

160. Actually, I hate the MSM, so there.

[NotGivingUp]

157. Bullshit! Corporatists are so worried he's going to win, they are omitting him from polls. n/t

[Odin2005]

159. Wishful thinking.

[Roland99]

114. Dennis will be on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno on Monday Sept. 24!!!

[Echo In Light]

115. I will caucus for DK also!

:)

[caseycoon]

116. Dennis Kucinich is the only one running

that I can completely & happily support.
If folks would just LISTEN to the man I think most would agree.
I'm with him for as long as he's in the running!
:yourock: DENNIS!

That said, after the primaries I will support the Democratic nominee. I sure hope it's DK!

[ShortnFiery]

117. I'm THERE! nt

[patrioticintellect]

118. Thanks for making the change

Dennis won't let you down. And neither will his supporters or volunteers. I've only been actively campaigning/supporting for 1 month and already I wouldn't join any other campaign. These people are amazing.

[cooolandrew]

122. Dennis is just right on the money. There is not 1 aspect of his platform I can fault. GO DENNIS!

[cooolandrew]

124. Kucinich " I am only 'unelectable' if you don't elect me". Visualise visualse. Dennis victorious 08.

[Seabiscuit]

128. As a DK supporter I am troubled with a little voice in my head that says:

I want to vote for DK out of principle - he represents my views better than anyone else. But when my state's primary comes around, if the only candidate that appears close to catching Hillary (who is my very last choice) is either Obama or Edwards, would I be "wasting" my vote if I didn't vote for Obama or Edwards?

It troubles me. I hate having to make that kind of choice.

In the meantime, of course, I will campaign for and donate to only one candidate: Dennis Kucinich.

Confession - I did make a small donation to Elizabeth Edwards on her birthday to thank her for handing Ann Coulter her ass on a platter.

[GMFORD]

135. I have that little voice too.

But I won't give in to it. DK's position on the issues agree with mine so I must vote for him. If I wimp out and vote for someone else then I am no better than those in congress who wimp out on ending the war because 'We don't have the votes to overcome a veto'. I say it's better to go down fighting.

[Seabiscuit]

147. I hear you, but I'm still troubled...

If Edwards, for instance, were the only one with a good chance to defeat Hillary in the primaries (with DK being a distant 5th or 6th after the intitial primaries leading to the primary in my state) and if all indications were that a Hillary nomination would virtually guarantee a Republican victory in 11/08, and if my vote might actually make a difference, shouldn't I take the big picture into account and vote for Edwards if that would push him over the top and virtually gurantee a Democratic victory in 11/08?

I know above contains a some pretty wild speculation, but I'm getting the feeling that not only are the Republicans drooling over the prospect of tearing Hillary apart in the general election, John Edwards appears to represent, to their thinking, their biggest nightmare, because he stands a good chance of winning.

The above are all subthoughts to that little voice in my head about DK.

As much as I want to vote for DK out of principle, if it resulted in denying Edwards the Presidency and guaranteeing a Hillary loss to a Republican in the general election, I feel I'd be compelled to vote for Edwards over DK.

If DK and Edwards were one person, with Edwards' looks and credentials fighting poverty, and DK's resume on Iraq and health care, what a wonderful world this could be.

[dbonds]

129. He's my choice as well.

[Douglas Carpenter]

133. Those who REALLY want to help the Kucinich campaign move into the TOP-TIER

NOW IS THE TIME TO DONATE!


you can do it RIGHT NOW on DU/Act Blue.

If those who care about the issues Mr. Kucinich raises donate NOW – HE WILL BE

A TOP-TIER CANDIATE!!


I'm not addressing those who do not support Congressman Dennis Kucinich

and do not agree with him on the issues. I'm addressing those who DO

support Congressman Kucinich and/or do agree with him on the issues:

Donating to the Kucinich 2008 campaign through DU/ACT Blue is very fast.

It's very easy. Do it now!

link:

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/12518
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Some are supporting Congressman Kucinich because they strongly believe he can win. Others are supporting him because they support his agenda (or at least most of it) and want those issues brought to the center of public debate.

Mr. Kucinich does not have the funding of the top-tier candidates. Corporate lobbyist seeking government favoritism for their special interest won’t be writing their $2300 checks paying for access like they do for other candidates. But small donations DO add up very, very fast. That's how the Dean campaign became a significant force in 2004.

So whether or not you are convinced that Congressman Kucinich could possibly win...if you want the issues only Dennis Kucinich raises brought to the public square, if you believe his message of Strength through Peace is important, that the whole question of corporate control of government is important, that single-payer universal health care is important, if you believe American needs fundamental changes; his campaign needs a lot more money then it has in its coffers now.

IF anywhere near half the people who agree with Congressman Dennis Kucinich on the issues sent him a donation -- he would be a major top-tier contender very, very fast:

Donating through DU/ACT Blue is very fast. It's very easy. Do it now! I did...

link:

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/12518

He won't be getting a whole lot from the corporate lobbyist buying access for their special interest and paying for favoritism... so ...

PLEASE DONATE NOW ! you can do it RIGHT NOW on DU/Act Blue.

It's fast. It's very easy. Do it now! I did…..

link:

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/12518

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Congressman Dennis Kucinich on the Issues:




http://www.dennis4president.com/go/issues/


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NEW Website:

http://www.dennis4president.com/home/

GET INVOLVED!!

Kucinich 2008 Action Center:

http://action.dennis4president.com/


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[EV_Ares]

136. Hey, I am pretty much with you on Dennis. Right now for me, it is

him or Edwards. I especially got pissed when the AARP refused to let him in their debate. He is not for helping the insurance companies like Hillary is.

[Individualist]

141. kick. Vote in your best interest

It's time to end the cycle of buying the presidency.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1876562&mesg_id=1876811

[KAT119]

152. DK in '08 is miles/kilometers above the rest!!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

154. Dennis' platform is what the Democratic platform SHOULD be, but isn't.

Due to the corporatocracy we live in. Guvmint by and for the corporations.

[NotGivingUp]

155. DK CAN win. WE can make him win. Blow the socks off all the corporatists promoting Hillary.

Let's show 'em. Dennis is the ONLY one who has my vote. He is the ONLY one for the people.

[brainshrub]

156. Don't waste your vote

Don't waste your vote.

In these dangerous times, it is important that you not waste your vote. After all, your vote isn't really yours - it belongs to a Democrat who you have been told can win.

A vote for a candidate who reflects your values would set a dangerous precedent. How can corporations retain control of the Democratic party if progressives vote their conscience and support Kucinich?

Answer: They can't!

So please reconsider your selection of Kucinich - and instead go for a corporate-approved candidate like Senator Hillary Clinton.

Thank you.