Don't use condum, take the vaccine. Don't look over here now, Merck's vaccine doesn't work.

[Robbien]

In a disappointing setback, a promising experimental AIDS vaccine failed to work in a large international test, leading the developer to halt the study. Merck & Co. said Friday that it is ending enrollment and vaccination of volunteers in the study, which was partly funded by the National Institutes of Health.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070921/ap_on_he_me/aids_vaccine_fails

But take the vaccine anyway, it makes Merck a ton of money. Okay?

Well good then.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. Um, the vaccine doesn't make Merck any money.

They're working on an HIV vaccine. It failed.

Let's see you come up with an HIV vaccine.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

2. When the flying fuck...

...did Merck ever tell anyone not to use a condom? Is your argument actually so weak that you have to resort to completely making shit up?

Never mind, you can't even fucking spell condom.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. Just what sort of person...

is giddy when an experimental HIV vaccine fails?

Yeesh.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

4. Well, Pat Robertson, for one.

Mazbe neo-nazis? Freepers? Certainly nobody who's ever had a friend with HIV. Jesus Christ.
But then AIDS was probably all an evil bushco plot, anzway.

[Prophet 451]

13. Drug companies

Drug companies make far more from treating symptoms than they ever could from a cure or vaccine.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

15. Then why is Merck testing an HIV vaccine?

Guess that proves you wrong.

[Prophet 451]

23. Not necessarily

Merck may feel they could make even more money marketing the vaccine to populations unlikely to get the virus anyway.

EDIT: Also, if a vaccine was successful, they could charge whatever they liked for it, making up the loss of profits from treatment drugs.

[ecstatic]

5. I liken their STD vaccines to laser eye surgery: a luxury

but not necessarily a luxury I would want to risk going blind/dying for. The risk of dying from their HPV vaccine is very minimal... but still... How do you explain something like that to everyone? How is an HPV vaccine death justifiable in any way, when a simple safe sex lesson would have sufficed?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. That's why I'm against condoms.

Why put somebody at the risk of a potentially fatal latex allergy, when simple abstinence would suffice?

[Warren DeMontague]

18. I'm against condoms when some joker puts em on his head.

That's just wrong.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. Fancy looking drink though.

[jmowreader]

26. Why use latex condoms?

Polyurethane condoms are available. They are completely latex-free, and they feel really good.

[tammywammy]

7. What shocks me is any DU member happy that Merck's HIV vaccine failed

:wtf:

[Robbien]

8. What surprises me is that any DU member supports Merck

and it's drive to make sure that every female little child is forcibly injected with Merck's mandatory vaccine.

You support Merck and their huge flow of immoral funding of lobby money to congresscritters for mandatory immoral injecting unproven drugs into American female children.

I do not.

That is the way it is.

[tammywammy]

9. When did I say any of this:

"You support Merck and their huge flow of immoral funding of lobby money to congresscritters for mandatory immoral injecting unproven drugs into American female children."

I find it deplorable that in your hatred of Merck that you'd be happy that their HIV vaccine would fail. Disgusting.

I'd get the HPV vaccine if I could, and I'm all for insurance covering it and being widely available to people. I'm not for forced vaccination of Gardasil.

[Robbien]

17. 'kay

Sorry.

I strongly desperately wish there is a solution for HIV positive, even if hater Merck was the one to deliver it.

Don't mean to dump on another hopeful believer.

Again, sorry.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

10. You're insane.

You're against the creation of a vaccine that could save literally MILLIONS of lives if it works. How the hell do you justify that? Have you ever known anyone who has died of AIDS? It isn't a pretty sight. So quite frankly you can take your concerns about lobbying money and shove it, mkay? Fortunately, most people in this world are more reasonable than you.

Ya, I support the creation of an HIV vaccine. There, I said it. Must make me a freeper, eh? Jeezus, some people.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. If Merck invents an HIV, more power to them.

Give them billions of tax payer buck. Give them fucking Disneyland. They'd earn it.

"You support Merck and their huge flow of immoral funding of lobby money to congresscritters for mandatory immoral injecting unproven drugs into American female children."

You confused the HPV vaccine with this experimental HIV vaccine, didn't you? Did you even bother to read it?

[tammywammy]

14. Of course he didn't read it

All he had to see was "Merck" and "failed" and went off on his rant against how evil Merck and pharmaceuticals are. :eyes:

[Warren DeMontague]

16. You don't have any clue what you're talking about, do you?

Beyond that, yeah, I know that an HPV (not to be confused with an HIV) vaccine interferes with the agenda of uptight fundy assholes who are deluded enough to think that the daughters they dragged to the purity ball will never have sex... and sometimes their neo-luddite agenda overlaps with the agenda of deluded anti-science neo-luddites on the "left".. but the truth is, no one is going to be forcibly injected with anything.

And vaccines save lives. I have a relative who still suffers from post-polio syndrome. Thank god my kids don't have to worry about THAT.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. I think these people are one in the same.

Back a few months ago when all the debate was HPV vaccine, if you scratched the surface of these "deluded anti-science neo-luddites" underneath you'd find a sexist conservative prude who are really worried about women having promiscuous sex.

[Warren DeMontague]

21. I noticed that, too. nt

[alittlelark]

28. Big Pharma is into BIG $$$$$$$$$$$$

They take university research, create a drug, and then make hundreds of millions.....


WE paid for the research (Universities) THEY get the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Warren DeMontague]

12. You spelled "condom" wrong.

But don't let me interfere with your nonsensical rant against what is an extremely worthwhile pursuit, namely, the attempt to find an HIV vaccine.

Oh, sorry, I forgot: Bad, evil drug companies! Bad! Bad! :eyes:

[xchrom]

22. well i think i have found one thing truly evil at du -- this OP.

through their hatred of things ''Big Pharma'' they wish disease and death on others who would be other wise helped or cured or even prevented from contracting a horrifying and deadly disease,.

ronald reagan didn't sink this low.

[focusfan]

24. If a vaccine does work we will never get it anyway

I wonder if anyone in the federal government has ever died from AIDS?

[LeftyMom]

25. oh ffs

Shut up with the :tinfoilhat: crap, you're disrespecting real people with a real disease, not engaged in some goofy theoretical exercise.

[alittlelark]

27. I know there are those that immediately attack you w/ these posts

to those I say



HA HA!!!!