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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:03 AM
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Bush Betting on Clinton Win
Saturday, September 22, 2007; Page A02

HANDING THE KEYS TO CLINTON?

Off the Record, Bush Wonders if She's Like Ike

Karl Rove may not think much of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's chances of winning the White House, but it sounds as though President Bush is less sanguine. At an off-the-record lunch a week ago, Bush expressed admiration for her tenacity in the campaign. And he left some in the room with the impression that he thinks she will win the election and has been thinking about how to turn over the country to her.

The topic came up when Bush invited a group of morning and evening news anchors and Sunday show hosts to join him in the executive mansion's family dining room a few hours before he delivered his nationally televised address on Iraq last week. Bush made no explicit election predictions, according to some in the room, but clearly thought Clinton would win the Democratic nomination and talked in a way that seemed to suggest he expects her to succeed him -- and will continue his Iraq policy if she does.

As Bush was describing his thinking about Iraq and the future, he indicated that he wants to use his final 16 months to stabilize Iraq enough and redefine the U.S. mission there so that the next president would feel politically able to keep a smaller but long-term presence in the country. The broadcasters were not allowed to directly quote the president, but they were allowed to allude to his thinking. George Stephanopoulos of ABC News later cited the analogy of Dwight D. Eisenhower essentially adopting President Harry S. Truman's foreign policy despite the Republican general's 1952 campaign statements.

"He had kind of a striking analogy," Stephanopoulos said of Bush on the air a few hours after the lunch. "He believes that whoever replaces him, like General Eisenhower when he replaced Harry Truman, may criticize the president's policy during the campaign but will likely continue much of it in office."

It is, in fact, a striking analogy, and of course Bush has been positioning himself as a latter-day Truman for a while, particularly in the sense that Truman was reviled by the public toward the end of his presidency but later earned historians' respect for his leadership at the beginning of the Cold War. Not surprisingly, Bush critics consider that wishful thinking.

Either way, even though he has repeatedly forsworn playing "prognosticator in chief," Bush offered the broadcasters some assessment of the race to succeed him. According to people in the room, he said Clinton is formidable and will raise a lot of money. He seemed particularly impressed that she has held up under enormous pressure on the campaign trail, noting that running for national office is extremely hard. Just as he had the advantage of having seen it up close during his father's four national campaigns, he noted that Clinton benefits from having been on the front lines of her husband's two presidential elections. Bush added that Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) is impressive in his own way, but the president seemed to doubt that the freshman senator could win, given his inexperience in high office and national campaigning.


article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/21/AR2007092102056_pf.html
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:06 AM
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1. Harry Truman would have despised Bush.
And any comparisons to him.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:09 AM
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2.  . . . passing the buck on Iraq
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:23 AM
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4. Exactly. Bush has a plan alright - to dump this war in the lap of
the next Democratic President, be it Hillary or whoever. It will suck all the oxygen out of the beginning of the new administration - forget about a "honeymoon." There won't be one. That's why it is so vital for the Democratic Congress to come to grips with this war now, cut off funding, and bring it it to an end - so the new President can have a fresh start.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:30 AM
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9. Bush doesn't care how she handles Iraq - he knows she'll 'handle' the protection
of his secrecy and privilege just like Bill did for Poppy Bush and all the outstanding matters involved in HIS crimes of office.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html


IMO, it will be according to plan - as neither Clinton used their 'machine' for 6 years to oppose Bush and the GOP - and Bush is ruling like he could care less that he's making it difficult for GOP candidates in 2008.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:39 AM
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21. I'm absolutely flabbergasted by those who STILL consider TeamClinton to be...
progressive saviors despite all evidence to the contrary
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:09 AM
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27. can you IMAGINE what Harry would have had to say about W?
Even his wide-ranging and, um, expressive vocabulary would have failed him.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:21 AM
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3. Well, there is that history of Clintons...uh....tidying up for bushes...
and that's not really such a good thing for we "little people"
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:24 AM
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6. I wonder what kind of 'preparing' he's doing for the election
related to Clinton?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:23 AM
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5. he'll roll up his precious rug..sweep some barney Burds under the desk
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 07:24 AM by SoCalDem
and high-tail it back to texas, where some Daddy-pals have no doubt set up some foundations to pay him big bucks for some speeches :)
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:25 AM
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7. He expects the presidency to stay in the family...
Did I say that?
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:30 AM
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8. Hardly prophetic.
The oligarchs have spoken, all is decided. Bush simply has the inside scoop, a privilege they allow him for being their front man.

Julie
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Eagle_Eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:32 AM
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10. little george is right; Hillary is going to be the next President
It is also obvious little george is going to do absolutely nothing about the war in Iraq.

The war will be in what ever state of flux it happens to be in when the next Democrat assumes the helm of the Executive Branch.

We will have control of the Executive Branch, Senate, and the House in 2009. It will be a test of our mettle to set right the wrongs of the previous administration.

I know the progressives and Democrats will do a fine job.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:48 AM
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11. Bush is right about Hillary, IMO.
She will win the nomination and hopefully the election. But his belief that she will continue his Iraq policies is bubble nonsense.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:03 AM
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12. The author said "Bush is thinking..." 3x
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 08:03 AM by mahina
I don't think I've ever seen that written even once.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:07 AM
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13. If she does win
I'm hoping she'll shake shit up. Make bold decisions to move this country make into the correct direction.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:11 AM
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14. You Keep Right On Hoping
If you're really looking for someone who is going to shake things up, Hillary isn't the one.

Gore, Kucinich, Edwards....any of them would stir the pot, but with ANOTHER Clinton in the WH, it will be the same pro-corporate, pro-establishment policies that have brought us to where we are today.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:35 AM
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20. Absolutely! n/t
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:37 AM
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25. Ya, that could happen.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:14 AM
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29. The only thing scarier than a Bush that doesn't think.....
is a Bush that does think.

:scared:
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:15 AM
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15. No more Clintons! No more Bushes!!!
Enablers.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:19 AM
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16. wow! just in time for all hillary on the sunday shows!
one might think this was more propaganda. :eyes:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 09:18 AM
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19. does this really help her?
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 09:19 AM by bigtree
I wouldn't wish this on my candidate
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:31 AM
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17. Bush wants the next president to clean up his mess.
He and the GOP see the writing on the wall - most likely a dem is going to end up in the White House (barring any vote stealing of course). And the republicans are going to spin it as the democrats being responsible for the inevitable chaos that will occur when withdrawal happens under a democratic administration. And I'd bet they'll get away with it because you have a media who has a history of distorting the truth while catapulting propaganda.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:45 AM
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18. She'll be more like Gorbachev
After bush as Breshchnev. She'll simply be the one on watch when the US finally falls apart.
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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:46 AM
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22. Bush is still looking for that silver lining
Doesn't wanna be just another Warren G Harding, Taft, or Grant. No, he'd rather be a Truman...
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:47 AM
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23. Bush "Hoping" for Clinton win.
With the closeness of the Bush family and the Clintons it wouldn't surprise me at all if they helped him maintain the war if she gets elected. And help him cover up his crimes.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:47 AM
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24. As Mos Def said on Bill Maher last week: The Bushes and the Clintons are passing the presidency back
and forth like a Party joint.

That is no lie!

TC


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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:40 AM
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26. they are SO desperate to prop her up as THEIR choice
hilarious. what is next? 'four out of five dentists support hillary' ?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:13 AM
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28. George "the buck stops here" Bush? Ahahahahahahaha
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