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patrioticintellect Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:21 AM
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And so the money shifts parties to preserve the status quo...
and keep the American people, young, lower income, working people who are asked to do labor and die for this country so the wealthy can live, from ever seeing a candidate who leads this country for the people of America and not the corporate powers.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:23 AM
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1. Very astute observation!
That is EXACTLY what is happening. And, it's safe for the corporations to think that way, too -- now that the DLC's infiltration of our Party and the way our Party does things is complete.

Bravo for a great post!

TC


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patrioticintellect Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:48 AM
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8. thanks for the bravo
I had an article that somehow I forgot to link to in my post. It goes with my post.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=afaR_KaZJEds">CEOs, Bush Rangers Rebuff Republicans on War, Widening Deficit
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:24 AM
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2. Al Gore
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:25 AM
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3. Amen... but where the hell IS he?
I would support him in a nano-second against HRC and her corporate wing of this Party, but do you think he'll run?

I sure hope so!

TC



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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:29 AM
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5. Thats all we can do ,Keep saying his name and naming reasons why!
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 08:30 AM by orpupilofnature57
The things Shrub has given u.s. Al never could.http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:27 AM
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4. that about sums it up
:(
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:45 AM
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6. I disagree CEOs are rational, while business interests historically felt they were
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 08:46 AM by rosebud57
represented by the business coalition of the GOP, the CEOs who are not idealogues have realized that the GOP has been a disaster on multiple fronts and is unlikely to change it's ways with a Rudy or Mit.

An example of a CEO idealogue is Karl Linder of Cincinnati. All GOP.
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patrioticintellect Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:45 AM
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7. There was a news article to go with my "astute" observation
Here it is. I am amazed nobody asked if I had left something out.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=afaR_KaZJEds">CEOs, Bush Rangers Rebuff Republicans on War, Widening Deficit

Sept. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Dozens of corporate executives who backed President George W. Bush for re-election in 2004, including some of his top fund-raisers, are now helping Democrats running for president.

John Mack, chief executive officer of Morgan Stanley, Rupert Murdoch, chairman of News Corp., and Terry Semel, chairman of Yahoo! Inc., are among some 60 executives writing checks to Democrats such as Senators Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois, a review of U.S. Federal Election Commission records shows.

While the vast majority of business leaders still back Republicans for 2008, the stature of some of those donating to Democrats suggests that support may be eroding, seven years into the Bush presidency. Some executives expressed concern over Republican positions on issues ranging from the war in Iraq and stem-cell research to global warming and the fiscal deficit.

The shift in political-spending patterns is ``very unusual,'' says Fred Wertheimer, president of Democracy 21, a Washington-based group that advocates campaign-finance reform.

``Normally, if you have dissatisfaction with the administration, you figure out who in your own party you'll support in the next election,'' he says. ``You don't look at other parties.''

The Democratic victory in last November's congressional elections may have also sparked greater interest in the party. ``Money tends to follow people who have power,'' Wertheimer says.

Watch closely. The Bushies are taking control of Democratic candidates because they do not care. All they want to do is win.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:49 AM
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10. I believe a lot of business people have come to realize that Clinton was the best
president we have had in recent memory and are sorry that Gore did not follow him. They have come to regret unquestioning demonization of anything with a D.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:53 AM
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11. "The Bushies are taking control of Democratic candidates because they do not care...."
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 08:53 AM by Totally Committed
... All they want to do is win."

Right you are! --- It's called the DLC, and it is the Republican hedge against not having a voice in the government, even when a "Democrat" (sic) administration is voted in.






And, it is no error that HRC will probably get the nomination and Presidency seeing that that same hedge probably involves the BUSH - CLINTON - CLINTON - BUSH - BUSH - CLINTON - CLINTON government plan.

TC



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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:48 AM
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9. Thanks, patrioticintellect! And many don't see it or don't seem to care... n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 09:00 AM
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12. That's the idea! It's all a dog and pony show and we're the field mice. nt
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patrioticintellect Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 09:24 AM
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13. Democratic Underground (Where Field Mice Unite)
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 09:25 AM by patrioticintellect
Yea, well, the field mice can change a few things around here. I mean, the war hawks and corporate fat cats present a few problems. But if we outnumber them, we can use our strength in numbers to survive.

I would rather die trying to return democracy to this land than die trying to impose democracy in another.

Bring the troops home and let them help us restore this democracy which has led them on a mission to do what?
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 09:39 AM
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14. If enough "field mice" get together, no one's "cheese" will be safe...
trust me.

We just have to find a way to get everyone up off the sofa and together in action.

TC


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patrioticintellect Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 09:50 AM
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15. Making connections through the Internet is a start.
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 09:50 AM by patrioticintellect
Then, well, seeing as you have a quote by Kucinich I will start with him...then we get Kucinich to pick up on the "little guy" and I mean, really in truly pick up on the "little guy".

He should look at Gravel's policies and consider incorporating them to take on his supporters so they can move to a more viable option.

He should appeal to members of the Green Party and other third, fourth, and fifth parties talking about helping them do away with a rigged system and in turn maybe they will see he will respect them and will vote for him.

Lastly, Barack does not stand up for black people. He should not be America's first "black President" at all. If anyone should be the next "black President", it would be John Lewis, Barbara Lee, Maxine Waters, Robert Scott, or especially Cynthia McKinney. I think we have to get these leaders who draw much attention from the African-American voters to start speaking out about the past two elections in relation to how the 2008 campaigns are going. I want them to specifically look at Barack and how he voted nay on the objection to the electoral vote count of the 2004 election. The objection was led by African-Americans and he did not add his voice proving it means nothing to be black but means something to be wealthy and uncomfortable with sticking up for lower class or poor Americans.

Black people almost UNIVERSALLY do not believe the official account of 9/11. Barack Obama could care less.

I emailed McKinney to ask for her to add her voice and endorse Kucinich. I want her to start speaking up and saying Kucinich is a viable option for black people.

Polarizing? I don't care. We need to start electing more courageous people who are not afraid to speak their mind and stand up for the American people.
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