HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher weighs in on the MoveOn 'Betray Us?' ad

[BigBearJohn]

In this video, Bill Maher and his panel discuss the political uproar surrounding the recent MoveOn ad, "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" in response to the recent progress report released by Petraeus, currently commanding the Iraq occupation.

Comedienne Janeane Garofalo, musician Rob Thomas and author Salman Rushdie weigh in.

"The Republicans, in order to not talk about the war--any excuse to not discuss the actual war," says Rushdie, "means that you attack people who talk about the war in ways they don't like."

"So you talk about 'talking about the war,' instead of talking about the war."

"General Petraeus," says Garofalo, "has been dishonest; that is sort of the role of a soldier like that. Just like General Westmoreland and the 5:00 reports of Vietnam -- of course they are dishonest."

Garofalo says that the mainstream media are complicit in pretending that MoveOn.org is the problem by "allowing the nonsense to continue" in place of a real discussion of the issues at hand.

MORE AT RAW STORY: (I highly recommend the video)
http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Bill_Maher_on_Betray_Us_ad_0922.html

[mloutre]

1. Rushdie's characterization of the real context of this tempest in a teacup is spot on

And that is one intriguing combination of panel-discussion guests, I tell you what.

[xchrom]

2. rushdie rocks.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

3. "So you talk about 'talking about the war,' instead of talking about the war."

No further questions, Your Honor.

:hi: :pals:

[DCKit]

4. Janeane's explanation of "the fog of (this) war" was concise

and I was floored that she said (and was able to say) the things she did. Bringing the Bush/Bin Laden families incestuous, long-term relationship to light alone is a hugh knock to the nations consciousness. Wake the fuck up dumbshits, we're being prison raped by a yuppie dipshit.

K&R