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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:15 AM
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Chuck Hagel Talks More Eloquently About Iraq Than 99% of Democrats
I fucking hate to say that, but on CNN he is ripping McCain and bu$h* apart on the war in a way that I've heard few democrats. imho

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:17 AM
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1. the difference is Chuck knows of what he speaks
he knows what war will do for ones self, trust me on that one ok.
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:24 AM
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9. Don't tell nobody, but if Chuck had ran for POTUS
I would have had a hard time voting Dem.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:39 AM
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14. I think Chuck has had that moment
where one wakes the fuck up. We all do, just for some its sooner than later and its almost always an about face when its later.:hi:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:17 AM
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2. I fucking hate to hear that
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:38 AM
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12. I hated to say it.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:17 AM
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3. Why? because he's not RUNNING for office anymore.
When ANY politician has to be "on the record" or is running for office, they turn into mushy-middle, mealy-mouthed liars..

They never want to say anything that "could' cost them a stinking vote..no matter how many people end up dying because of their tentative talk..:grr:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:39 AM
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13. hagel has been opposed to this war for a long long time
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:18 AM
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4. Hagel Left A Lot Of Room Open For A Bloomberg/Hagel Ticket In '08.....
think there is any chance that they can run as Independents and be successful?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:20 AM
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Nope.. but they would be the "perot ticket" that could damage dems
They could siphon off just enough to put Thompson or 911-iani into the WH..
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:18 AM
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5. As far as true conservatives go
Hagel isn't bad.
I just can't even consider a vote for one.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:20 AM
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6. The guy is a total right wing hack
Being against the war if great... but his ideology is right wing...period.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:23 AM
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7. exactly, the only thing Chuck is right on is war
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:23 AM
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8. Exactly.
But comparatively speaking, Hagel is better than any of the Republican candidates...as conservatives go.
I would never consider a vote for him.
It seems to get lost sometimes that the enemy of my enemy isn't always my friend. I am reminded of that every time someone starts posting nice things about him.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:35 AM
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10. So damn true, I wish that would fit on a bumper sticker
the enemy of my enemy isn't always my friend
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:37 AM
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11. One issue does not a good candidate make.
Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 10:38 AM by TwilightZone
He's wrong on pretty much everything else.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:41 AM
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15. i didn't advocate voting for him....just saying i wish dems could be so certain on war.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:52 AM
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16. Amen to that.
:(
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