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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:51 AM Original message |
"The Good German Syndrome" -- two great threads that go great together! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. K & R |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. It sure as hell is seeming the "Good German Syndrome"is back....and thanks for |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
103. I just finished reading both threads and feel really disturbed at what I read. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #103 |
121. I think most folks don't realize that there's a "DESTROY IT ALL" mentality... |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #121 |
142. Yes. A consumption-driven existence paves the way to non-existence. |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
135. Here's another companion link |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
153. I had a sig line 3 years ago that said |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. No. 5 was me |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. thanky -- memes should be the least of our worries -- but we really DO need them! |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Here especially |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. i'm sick to death of dismissing, "ignoring" -- |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Intellectual dismissal doesn't mean lack of engagement |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. best to let their words stand as proof of purchase -- see downthread. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. Thanks for posting this -- excellent stuff n/t |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. And look at the floodgate of Good German behavior .. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. wow, you bring up some good points. "authoritarianism" is where the rubber is meeting the road! |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. And they're not even trying to be subtle anymore. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
82. the lyric that keeps popping into my head is "Maybe partying will help..." |
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corkhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #82 |
182. Another Minutemen fan. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #182 |
185. double nickles is on my "top 5" that i would need on that deserted island. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
164. I faced the same thing with my writing... |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
104. I agree with you. The choice to engage in such behavior is terribly disturbing,... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. One juvenile post |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #109 |
169. If it quacks like a duck... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #109 |
188. If you are in a MSM free environment, then you may have an |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #104 |
136. i think we get engaged in social exchanges, and |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. Those who engage in civil disobedience are the ripest targets for the "blame the victim" crowd. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. remember RED FRIDAY? we should bring that back, or are we too scared to self-identify? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Absolutely, I would. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. is that a football thing? :) |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Nope. It's aesthetic and reactionary (i.e. Viet Nam). I'm actually a Packers fan. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. i'm totally glad i asked b/c Packers was exactly what i was thinking... |
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YankmeCrankme (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #24 |
171. I thought it had something to do with the Irish, the orange and the green lol nt |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
166. I won't wear green or orange on St. Pat's day... |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
165. It would be pointless for me... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. (shrug) Many/most DUers are authoritarians at heart - what's new? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. "well known" and "appealing to authority" are each functions of each other |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. That's "flotsam and "jetsam". |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. thank you for the spell checky -- i hope i got "frick" and "frack" correct. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
161. I hate fricken fracktured spelling. |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. K & R |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. k and r nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. I'll only address Mr. Swanson's piece: |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Swanson isnt' "trying to have it both ways" -- he's saying "we lose either way" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. But what about his dishonesty? |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Just back from brunch. Other thread locked. Wanted to thank you for your acknowledgment about... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. I apologized for that on the other thread. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. Can you stop with the insults and just make a point? It is really tedious. n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I give up. |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. "Good German" is used as a tool when there is nothing else to add to discussion |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. I have been called Good German here at DU by both left and right. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. it's a literary narrative as i use it -- authoritarian ideology. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #50 |
186. Sort of like using "Jewish Influence" when you mean "The current Israeli position" |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. "all that is required for the triumph of evil is for us to do nothing" is not reducto ad hitlarum |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. When someone uses that term here it's in an insulting way |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. So, just as with the MIT student, people who use it right must bow to the brainless? n/t |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. Not at all.. However the fact is it is used as an insult here |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. I'm sorry, but one liners do not an argument make |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. This (content, not title) is the clearest thing you have said. Thank you. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #68 |
87. I'm going to try very hard to say this as civilly as I can |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. Yes. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Oh, now we are on the way to banning certain previously accepted phrases, are we? n/t |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. How do you feel about the "being Hitlerish" comment in post #35? n/t |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
88. Accepted by who? You? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. are you sure you're addressing the right person? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. My comment is in reply to #53... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Oh, thanks. |
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followthemoney (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
113. Let's not forget the Good Jew, who in his faith in the benevelence of |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. What?? |
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followthemoney (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Your ignorance in appalling! Jews DID resist, but not enough. nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #117 |
125. Please. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #125 |
178. The Opportunity was small, but it was always there |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #113 |
146. I am not sure that is fair. If you are being ordered onto a train by armed guards... |
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followthemoney (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #146 |
195. Milton Meyer wrote "They Thought They Were Free." He said... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
156. He should've focused on the laughing and cheering... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
19. Excellently said! k & r (nt) |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
25. here is some nuance for you |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Well put! Agreed (nt) |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. So being liberal means being open to the viewpoint |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. thank you for making my point |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
67. Frustrating, isn't it. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. whoa nelly. this is quite smelly. you've got some fire in yer belly. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. okay, one more time before I go |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. So what's your point? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. all that is required for the triumph of evil is for us to do nothing -- you took that way off track |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
159. one last note |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #159 |
167. Burke never wrote (it has not been found) the "triumph of evil" quote so often attributed to him |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #167 |
177. and... |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. THANK YOU!! n/t |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Well spoken. But, I am beginning to feel like I'm in a hall of mirrors. |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Sorry your other thread got locked. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. "obtuse on purpose" - like it. Simpler than "aconnexia dotsosa". n/t |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
65. good question! how far should progressives ride the Authoritarian Tiger? |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
81. That'd be some big ass tatoo. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. i feel so bad for that young woman -- when you're an art student, at that age... |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
96. Actually she is in the electrical engr/comp sci department. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. QUESTION DOCTRINAIRE THINKING. DON'T BUY YOUR IDEAS WHOLESALE |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. NO...the saliva and blood thing... |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #108 |
131. ech -- sorry, it's still the CREEPIEST story from this week. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #131 |
144. Oh, I agree |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #144 |
155. well, "the government" in the form of the DOT or St Troopers had to arrange the road blocks |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 07:05 AM Response to Reply #155 |
173. No kidding. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #173 |
183. a poster above negates condemnation of this b/c "only 5 in 200" complained... |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #183 |
193. Back at you. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
71. where? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
107. Excellent points--what gets lost in these arguments is the wisdom |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
34. My thoughts on authoritarianism can be summed up perfectly |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. Killing in the name of -->> lyrics |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. You left out the GOOD part. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. damn! you're right! thank you! |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
35. I am getting a little sick of the 'good German' thing. Isn't it a little Hitlerish |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. it's not an attack -- sorry if you take it that way -- the "good german" narrative is about |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. ? Making a historical reference is "being Hitlerish".? Wrong..its called making an argument. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. the lesson from history is that fear/terror is behind authoritarianism. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. Hey, can you write a post without denigrating someone's intelligence? |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #64 |
83. The very argument they're making denigrates the reader's intelligence |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
70. Unfortunately, too many Americans are behaving like "good |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #70 |
85. I agree 100%. The term shouldn't be used to describe people who |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
42. K&R...really good post. |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
49. great post. thanks--I really appreciate your efforts |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
77. that made me smile -- :) |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
63. Although there hasn't been an immigration thread lately, this |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. we are told that national ID cards with RFID chips are to protect us "immigration." |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
66. So if you aren't being a confrontational asshole, you're a nazi. Nice. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Way to fucking miss the point. (nt) |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. No, that was pretty much the point: If you don't approve of people |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. nope -- that was not my point. but, do continue with that expired pony. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. you invoked that image; you cannot disown its consequences |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. Then what was your point |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
98. No, that is categorically NOT the point! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #98 |
127. spot on. thank you! love the term "unworthy victim" -- been ages since reading |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #127 |
147. Thank you. Just trying to help -- you started a great thread. (nt) |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #79 |
101. What cheap uncivil publicity stunt are you referring to? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. I can't speak for that poster, but as someone |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #105 |
141. What is wrong with being concerned about all of it? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. Seriously...out of curiosity... |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
129. you should read John Dean's writing on authoritarianism -- |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #79 |
140. You think it's all about the student but it's about the cops getting out of hand. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. nope -- the point is the syndrome -- the banality of evil. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. What evil? Being opposed to cheap and dangerous stunts? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. i describe the operation of fear -- the "good german" is a "narrative" which means that |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. What you are neglecting is that the response to these events |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. LOL. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #94 |
184. you are wrong again -- probably b/c you have strong feelings that are clouding your view |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. nice try. goes for you too. |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
73. OUT FOR A FEW HOURS. hate to leave this interesting discussion. n/t |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
91. Precisely! nashville brook! |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
110. Excellent Post! We need more of these kind of posts around here! |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #110 |
119. Agree! and another KICK! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #110 |
132. yep -- i know from which you speak |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
111. I want to point out that in April 1993 the ATF and FBI murdered |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. That was an obscenity |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. Wow |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. There are lots and lots of liberals |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. One liberal who stood up was none other than John Conyers |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #116 |
122. and a little information for you: |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Sounds like Wiki research and my research is in agreement |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #122 |
143. Deleted message |
cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Excuse me? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. Revisionist history |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. I disagree |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #115 |
137. I did NOT SAY that Janet Reno caused it Maybe RW pundits say that |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #111 |
126. eggsactly. the syndrome can happen within any political persuasion. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #126 |
138. Agreed. And it was not simply that those who |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #111 |
130. This happened very close in time to the Ruby Ridge shootout |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #130 |
139. Cleita -Thank you for sharing your observations n/t |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #111 |
160. A simple request, all : Please maintain civil discussion, keep comments on the issue, not the poster |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
128. In a way I think this boils down to our ability to question authority. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #128 |
133. It's a two edged sword all right. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #128 |
134. You've clearly never protested with Bread & Puppet. |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
148. The most authoritarian behavior on DU |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #148 |
149. Well said. n/t |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 08:42 AM Response to Reply #148 |
180. Very well said |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
150. False binary, that Democrat or appeaser crap. We aren't necessarily one or the other... |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #150 |
187. this is about standing behind the law, and refusing to be "terrorized" |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #187 |
190. "You are either a DEMOCRAT (in the full meaning of the word), or you an APPEASER." |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. a "DEMOCRAT" as in one who participates in DEMOCRACY -- advocating rule of law |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Look, I'm speaking in plain English. If you don't get it, that's your problem. |
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ToolTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
151. K & R |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
152. well, contrary to many, I "get" it |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. The Shock Doctrine -- corporatists need us to shut up and do what we're told. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #152 |
170. Many were the same as the ones supporting the current resident's fascist regime |
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cosmicdot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
157. knr |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
158. Art imitates life. Life imitates art. |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 07:17 AM Response to Reply #158 |
174. Interesting. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #158 |
189. i think you're on to something here, and i'd love to see it fleshed out -- panopticon? |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
162. Evening Kick! nt |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
163. "Geek Chic" I LIKE it... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
168. K&R |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
172. Excellent post. K & R |
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tnlurker (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
175. For later |
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tomfodw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
176. We're not the "Good Germans" |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #176 |
181. a middle class person has plenty of reason not to "protest" |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
179. When the authoritarians came for the dopers, I remained silent; I was not a doper. |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
194. The Authoritarians by Robert Altemeyer. |
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