Bluebear
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Sun Sep-23-07 02:43 PM
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"The Ron Paul Revolution!" |
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T-shirt being seen at airports, supermarkets, county fairs in New Hampshire. I have already seen three of the Paul shirts. (I remember wearing "Dean for America" shirts and striking up conversations with people.)
Maybe this human advertisement would be a good way to gain publicity for lesser-known candidates :cough Kucinich: out there?
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Sun Sep-23-07 02:46 PM
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1. great... Libertarianism is exponentially worse than Republicans.. wouldn't ya know |
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:03 PM
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2. Kucinich is running an awful campaign |
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sorry, but it's true. he's running like he's a contender, when he's not, yet. Gravel is making some noise, Ron Paul is making noise, Kucinich, and his supporters, are just complaining about how he isn't being taken seriously. Well of course he's not being taken seriously, he's a non-entity, until he has the money to play with the big boys (and girls) he has to be an insurgent. and he's not running that way.
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terminal_concept
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:19 PM
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Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 03:42 PM by terminal_concept
I think "Ron Paul" will get the nomination. All the spam all over the internet can't be for nothing. They are faking his support .they are buying people to support him. "BILL MAHER" for one .How can a person be either a Democrat or a libertarian? He's the same old republican lies and propaganda with a shiny new name. In "Freedom to fascism" they said there is no law that says the government can collect income taxes. Except for the 16th amendment. And they tried to steal from the left the criticism that the administration is fascist to promote their lie. I forget the name of that 9/11 conspiracy theorist. They bought him too. One minute he's saying the right wing is fascist and they are responsible for 9/11,next thing you know hes promoting "Ron Paul". It's class warfare. They will give up any of their other issues as long as they ensure their profits. I don't think they are trying to save money on taxes . It looks more like they want us begging for jobs.
Look at what libertarians beleive.No public schools .No public assistance of any kind .Even stuff most would consider worthwhile like scholarships and housing loans. I even heard they are against public libraries. No minimum wage. they are global corporatists. These corporations are not American any more. Talk about disgusting .Now that's greedy.
And "Ron Paul says he's against the war. All the Democrats are against the war. What moron would be in favor of war? "Ron Paul" wrote the declaration of war on Iraq .How is that against the war?
Now search google for "Ron Paul" you will find thousands of page . And not one single negative comment. And don't forget how the right has been throwing around the word liberty.I prefer freedom.
Sure you say he doesn't have a chance but there's plenty of time to the election. And there's plenty of ways to fake support and cheat an election.
I started looking at voting records to get an idea of which candidate to support. I look for the party line Democrat vote myself.
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gateley
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:45 PM
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6. I think Ron Paul's appeal is that he's so radical and different from all the other |
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R's -- and Dems, for that matter. People who want to shake things up and drastically make changes are excited by his approach. And who wouldn't be intrigued by the idea of no Fed Income Tax (regardless of the ramifications that would bring)?
I think he has some valid and intriguing POINTS -- not his entire philosophy.
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:51 PM
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7. "Who wouldn't be intrigued by the idea of no Federal income tax?" |
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Me and a lot of other liberals who've looked at the various proposals.
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gateley
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:59 PM
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10. Yeah, that's why I added the statement 'regardless of the repercussions'. I'm |
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just saying that the idea sounds appealing -- knowing full well that I don't understand how that would affect the country (which is why I'm not actually a proponent of it).
It's good to know -- seriously -- that those of like-mind have researched it. And come to think of it, if it were really viable, every candidate would probably be promoting it.
Thanks for your response.
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terminal_concept
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Sun Sep-23-07 04:00 PM
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What is intriguing about huge mobs of hungry homeless uneducated working poor people reminiscent of the Grapes of Wrath and the great depression? For a few buck in tax money that people don't really need. Maybe it's the bribery of staying out of peoples personal lives.
All the corporatists keep saying small government because it opens up markets for them to monopolize. The smaller the government gets the more power the corporation have over us.
Not to sound sarcastic but I feel strongly about this subject.
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:54 PM
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9. You forgot they are against any corporate regulations. |
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I have several Ron Paul supporters at work. He also wants to do away with the FDA. They cite the rotten job the FDA has done recently, you know, since Bush relaxed it's regulations.
I tried to point out that all the laws he is against were put in place FOR A REASON and all you have to do is look at American history. Why should we go back to policies that didn't work?
I pointed out that the Articles of Confederation was a Libertarian's wet-dream, but it was replace because IT DIDN'T WORK.
They won't listen. They think about no longer have to paying income taxes and begn drooling and won't listen to anything else.
They point out that all of his votes reflect his principles and he has never "flip-flopped", I point out that means he hasn't learned anything. It's useless.
:banghead:
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Sun Sep-23-07 04:51 PM
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12. Its even worse than that |
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Along with abolishing the IRS and the FDA, he also wants to eliminate the NSA, CIA, FBI and SEC. No more alphabet soup for you!
The guy is a kook who should be holed up in a ranch on the Canadian border with his guns, his own well and 100 pound sacks of rice.
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:26 PM
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4. So the Republicans now have their own Ralph Nader in their own backyard. |
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I think its funny. The man has more half-baked-ideas that appeal to the fans of half-baked-ideas than Ross Perot had in his heyday. If he wants to suck the vote of the lunatic fringe element (the cream of the crop so to speak) of the Republican Party right off the top that's just fine with me.
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:38 PM
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5. Kucinich doesn't have a very powerful ground game going. |
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You need people on the ground to get your message out in the primary state in question. If Kucinich had people on the ground in places like Iowa and other key battleground states like Edwards or Obama or even Clinton, he'd be in a better position than now.
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Sun Sep-23-07 03:51 PM
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8. I have seen quite a few Ron Paul bumper stickers |
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in the Merrimack Valley. He must have a good PR/marketing team.
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