The ultimate irony re: 'Betray-us'

[PCIntern]

When it comes out, and almost all of us here know that it will eventually be 'determined' (albeit grudgingly by the MSM), that the Petraeus testimony was a put-up job by the WH, there will be almost no acknowledgment that the 'Pile-on of Move-on' was wrong-headed and that they were correct in their assessment.

How many papers referred to Watergate as a dead-end third-rate burglary and there was never a retraction of that statement? You can point to hundreds of these terrible pronouncements including (but certainly not limited to) GENERAL POWELL'S U.N. SPEECH. How many papers or outlets wrote: "Oh shit, we blew it, I guess. Where's Lucy with that football?"

It will be..."Yeah, maybe, but they never should have said that about the General." Or, as a matter of fact, asked a question about the General, b/c it was a question, not a statement. Watchers of Fox know the difference, right?

P.S. To you FR lurkers who've been posting so much...we know who you are...we're just gathering evidence.

[frogcycle]

1. the other irony is that moveon is not all that clever

he's had that nickname for a long time


http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/09/senate_rebukes_moveonorg_for_g.html

Posted by: heartburn | September 20, 2007 2:56 PM

While I would agree the ad went way too far, did not accomplish anything constructive, and ultimately harmed the cause it supposedly supported more than helped it, it would be nice to see the Republicans in the Senate be equally outraged by some other things that would actually make a difference. How about being outraged that Petraeus was asked 4 years too late to implement his counter-insurgency strategy they way he had defined it could best work.
http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2007/01/28/the_petraeus_doctrine/

Posted by: kb | September 20, 2007 2:57 PM

Unbelievable, the Republic Party votes to continue to keep our troops in Iraq for longer periods of time without rest and yet they are concerned about a stupid newspaper ad?

The Rethuglicans need to "support the troops" with their votes to bring them home.
Quit worrying about newspaer ads you mindless Republican drones.

I looked into the origins of the nickname "Betrayus".

Many people are falsely assuming that "Betrayus" was a clever rhyme made up by Moveon.org for the New York Times ad. Which I think is a key assumption for this ad controversy to work for the republicans.

And that assumption is false. The nickname did not originate with Moveon.org.

I clearly remember reading Petraeus's nickname on various military forums/comment threads over two years ago. I remember it so because I thought it was very clever and suitable nickname. In the past couple of months, I have also started seeing the nickname used on progressive blogs and comments.

So when this "controversy" happened yesterday, I did a google search (i swear google really is a blogger's friend!) to see if I could find an old posting or comment that used the nickname.

Here's a comment from 2005:

From BLACKFIVE: Generals of yesterday and today

I don't know GEN Petraeus personally...but when I was in the "Devil Brigade" folks called him "Colonel Betrayus". He came up with things like the "Devil button" (button your BDU collar up to the top when on jumps) and the "Devil grip" (special name for keeping your trigger finger out of the trigger well) which sounded hokey to most of the troops at the time.

Can any other All American paratroopers out there expand on my comment?

Posted by: TBone | November 19, 2005 at 10:52 AM

This kind of changes the narrative, doesn't it ?

[fenriswolf]

2. yeah

we were calling him that in '02 back at fort campbell.

[PCIntern]

3. Sure...and that's another issue which,

if we were as 'slick' as the Rethugs, we would have used to our advantage long before the Ad was placed in the Times.

That's the diff between them and us: we give everyone the benefit of all doubts and then get screwed (screwn). Our bad...

I've been going for the throat since the Recount...I won't give one frigging inch in personal discussion with others, not one. Screw'em.