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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:32 AM
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Columbia University Dean Would Welcome Hitler
"If Hitler were in the United States and wanted a platform from which to speak, he would have plenty of platforms to speak in the United States. If he were willing to engage in a debate and a discussion, to be challenged by Columbia students and faculty, we would certainly run it."

John Coatsworth
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:33 AM
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1. What is your point?
Do you believe in free speech or not?
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:33 AM
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2. You just lost
you should wiki Godwin's Law before posting anything to do with the H-word.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:35 AM
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3. Nope
Coatsworth referenced Hitler, I'm quoting him.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:45 AM
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10. only when arguing with fools...
Ignorance IS Strength
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:36 AM
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4. who the hell is coatsworth? he is a fool.
the comparison is retarded.
what has ahmadinijad done?
has he murdered millions of people? has he invaded other countries?
iran is certainly less oppressive and more democratic than saudi arabia.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:40 AM
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7. Long gone, but why was he a fool?
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:44 AM
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9. he is a fool because he strikes out with scapegoating instead of logic.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:52 AM
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14. I thought you called Coatsworth a fool
if you called the OP a fool, you are way over the line.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:37 AM
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5. I would also like to see Columbia invite Klansmen to speak at the school
without hoods or masks or nothing to hide behind. If one firmly believes what they believe then sharing with others in a public forum and possibly to be questioned about your beliefs should not be a problem whatsoever. I guess that explains why the likes of limbaugh and hannity (visible klansmen) have to hide behind select audiences when they venture out at all.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:39 AM
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6. I suspect that quote is from
1933 or 1934. And I think it's a reasonable position for the time. Just like I think Bollinger's position is reasoable.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:51 AM
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13. Coatsworth invited Ahmadinejad to Columbia
The quote is from a few days ago.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:43 AM
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8. You're still here beating your war-drum?
:freak:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:46 AM
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11. The cure for hate speech is MORE speech, not denial of speech.
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 10:47 AM by Lex

MORE speech to educate and also to contradict the hate speech.




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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:50 AM
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12. Hitler was probably too busy with Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland to appear at Columbia
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:54 AM
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15. What about David Duke? Would he be welcomed?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:11 AM
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16. they damn well should have as well
How else would you be able to understand what fasism is all about?

Are we supposed to just listen to cardboard cut-out propaganda, and not hear and think about what really drives these ideologies?


And I'm sure if they had, local communists would have agitated against the speech, as was their right.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 12:35 PM
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18. Hitler was a mass murderer
Hold the sugar coating.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:12 AM
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17. Your concern is noted.
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