So What's The Real Game Here?

[Me.]

Is * 'endorsing' Hillary because she is the candidate they most want to run against or, do they think that by that nod in her direction they will so throw the base off that they won't choose her as the nominee and thus neuter a formidable opponent or, if a dem is going to gain the WH is she the dem they prefer to have?

What do you think? As far as I'm concerned, this is a page right out of Rove's playbook. So what's the deal?

[ThomCat]

1. I think that they really, really want to run against her

and by publicly endorsing her they are going to make her the centrist candidate of choice. "See, people on both sides like her. She must be the only real moderate."

People with a fetish for being "moderate" will love her.

And then the GOP can kick their hate machine into high gear and knock her down. She alienates and ignores our base better than any other democratic candidate, so she'll be the easiest democrat for them to knock down, and they know it.

[bryant69]

3. I agree with you

I think she is a good candidate - and I think she might make an OK President. But she is a candidate who will automatically rev up the conservative base, and she will depress the liberal base.

Bryant
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[redqueen]

8. Yup...

my thoughts exactly.

[babylonsister]

11. What Thom said; I think that's the plan, too. nt

[Hydra]

2. Honestly, I can't see them displeased with any of our Top Tiers

But why bother wondering? They plan to diebold us again, and I don't see a big effort to roll that back. As long as our vote is in doubt(and has been since 2000), it does little good to wonder who's "electable."

[againes654]

4. IMO

I think the repukes want HRC to win the nomination because they believe that she will be the easiest to defeat.

That is totally my opinion. I support Kucinich, but will vote for the Dem that wins the nomination. No I don't like the idea of "lesser of 2 evils, but I don't like the greater of the 2 evils either......so what to do.

[Me.]

22. Some Of Them Seem To Be Salivating eom

[earth mom]

5. The Powers That Be aka The Elite want Hillary. Game over if Gore doesn't run. nt

[Me.]

14. I Would Like To See How Things Would Play Out If He Go In

Her negatives are high, which is a problem. I remember reading that Bloomberg wouldn't decide if he was going to run until closer to the primaries because he wanted to see what Hillary's negatives were. I wonder of that's the same with Al?

[nashville_brook]

6. They are terrified of an Edwards nomination. They can't win against him.

All their rhetorical "strength" is invested in the masses' irrational Clinton hatred.

[Cleita]

9. Truthfully, I don't think they can win against Hillary either no matter what

dirty tricks they pull out of their bag. That's how much support they have lost for their party.

[nashville_brook]

10. it's starting to look that way.

[TornadoTN]

20. Agreed - it's pretty visible

However, I won't hold my breath until election day when it really matters. But things don't look good when most of their non-base is disgusted, running away, or already voting for the opposition.

[TornadoTN]

18. See 2004

Not saying that Edwards is a bad guy - in fact, I like him a great deal and is a strong candidate to earn my vote. However, I'm not so quick to buy into the premise that he is unbeatable. Sure, Hillary makes an easy target, but essentially all of our nominee's will give them plenty of ammo to fire back at us.

[Cleita]

7. I think that they want her to be the candidate because it will

be easy to whip their small base into a frenzy of hatred over her just like they did when she talked about a "vast right wing conspiracy". It turns out she was right too. With the other candidates all they can do is pick on superficial things like Edward's hair for instance, or Obama's squeaky cleanliness.

[Lerkfish]

12. cutting past all that speculation, here's the nitty gritty question

Is Hillary the BEST candidate we have, or merely the most profferred one? (note the difference between prefer and proffer).

When pressed, many Hillary supporters cite "electiblity" "inevitability" when that is really self-fulfilling prophecy. As long as they keep propping her up as the eventual candidate, they're hoping to make that a reality.

Similar to Paris Hilton being a celebrity for being famous.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. They want her as their candidate

FOX has been her most loyal pusher since the day after the November Elections

She is their IDEAL candidate since they KNOW they can defeat her.

All her negatives are so high (that is reality hillary supporters, not bashing her), that they KNOW they can defeat her

And if she should be elected... she can be hamstrained in the media...

But the reality is, they want her to be the annointed candidate, they KNOW they can defeat her... PERIOD

[Cleita]

15. I don't think they can beat her no matter how negative they get

because they have so pissed off the majority of the moderates in their base that those people will hold their nose and vote for any Democrat, even Hillary.

[Lerkfish]

16. Scene from "Little Big Man"

Jack Crabb: General, you go down there.
General Custer: You're advising me to go into the Coulee?
Jack Crabb: Yes sir.
General Custer: There are no Indians there, I suppose.
Jack Crabb: I didn't say that. There are thousands of Indians down there. And when they get done with you, there won't be nothing left but a greasy stain. This ain't the Washite River, General, and them ain't helpless women and children waiting for you. They're Cheyenne brave, and Sioux. You go down there, General, if you've got the nerve.
General Custer: Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner. You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really *don't* want me to go down there!

[Nia Zuri]

17. Double triple reverse psychology!

I actually do think that Hillary is the major candidate they are best prepared to campaign against. They have had years to get there game ready for her. She is so polarizing that they can indeed mobilize their base when they are pretty much unmotivated otherwise. I think Edwards is the one they least want to run against and he is pretty much marginalized by the republicans and the MSM.On the other hand, it could be a trick, maybe Hillary is the one they fear most and they just want us to think they're trying to set things up against her. I have a headache....

[Kelly Rupert]

19. Or, rather, he saw that she was 20 points up,

and said, "Yeah, I bet she'll win the nomination."

[Me.]

21. CNN Is Asking This Very Question

They think her nomination would guarantee a high GOP turn-out and would stoke the base. They figure the GOP could pick up a lot of indies.